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		By: snopercod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/06/20/who-is-paul-ryan-and-why-do-all-these-people-hate-him/#comment-1293839</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 22:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And here&#039;s another gift from Ryan, the &lt;i&gt;Frank R. Lautenberg Chemical Safety for the 21st Century Act &lt;/i&gt;, which gives the EPA absolute control of everything that we use in our day-to-day lives. Only 3 republicans voted against this power grab. It&#039;s H.R.2576 and the president just signed it. Unbelievable...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here&#8217;s another gift from Ryan, the <i>Frank R. Lautenberg Chemical Safety for the 21st Century Act </i>, which gives the EPA absolute control of everything that we use in our day-to-day lives. Only 3 republicans voted against this power grab. It&#8217;s H.R.2576 and the president just signed it. Unbelievable&#8230;</p>
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		By: Foxfier		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foxfier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 18:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo-
Towards the end of the 2012 election, I started seeing a lot of people who loved Ryan&#039;s &quot;MATH!&quot; type stuff suddenly seeming to realize &quot;wait a minute, this guy isn&#039;t just a&#039;Catholic,&#039; he actually &lt;i&gt;believes&lt;/i&gt; all this stuff!&quot; and start flipping out.
I think a lot of his prior supporters feel betrayed-- not because he changed in any way, but because they found out that he wasn&#039;t on board with a libertarian-lite angle.
It&#039;s sort of like when the &quot;I f****ing love science&quot; folks find out that a scientist believes that God guided evolution; even if it has nothing to do with his specialty, or if he believes it was done in such a way that there would be no &quot;scientific&quot; evidence, they&#039;ll be rather vicious in their attacks on the &quot;creationist.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo-<br />
Towards the end of the 2012 election, I started seeing a lot of people who loved Ryan&#8217;s &#8220;MATH!&#8221; type stuff suddenly seeming to realize &#8220;wait a minute, this guy isn&#8217;t just a&#8217;Catholic,&#8217; he actually <i>believes</i> all this stuff!&#8221; and start flipping out.<br />
I think a lot of his prior supporters feel betrayed&#8211; not because he changed in any way, but because they found out that he wasn&#8217;t on board with a libertarian-lite angle.<br />
It&#8217;s sort of like when the &#8220;I f****ing love science&#8221; folks find out that a scientist believes that God guided evolution; even if it has nothing to do with his specialty, or if he believes it was done in such a way that there would be no &#8220;scientific&#8221; evidence, they&#8217;ll be rather vicious in their attacks on the &#8220;creationist.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 18:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P Ryan is a good example of someone who went to DC with good intentions, and then got face to face with the true nature of evil. It was more difficult than they had perhaps thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P Ryan is a good example of someone who went to DC with good intentions, and then got face to face with the true nature of evil. It was more difficult than they had perhaps thought.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OM,

Trump bases his position on self-interest. Until his competitors have to forego the hiring of illegals, he&#039;s not going to sacrifice his competitive position to a (from a business pov) ivory-tower &#039;principle&#039;. 

I suspect that Trump&#039;s position on illegal immigration, Muslim migration and trade is based in &#039;enlightened&#039; self-interest. As an American citizen, Trump sees all of them as currently composed, as placing him and America, at a competitive disadvantage. 

So, Trump is NOT against the hiring of illegals, he&#039;s against &lt;i&gt;uncontrolled&lt;/i&gt; illegal immigration. 
He&#039;s against importing Muslims because he sees them as a population that &lt;i&gt;in the aggregate&lt;/i&gt; is hostile to American foundational principles. He&#039;s against trade policies that &lt;i&gt;greatly favor&lt;/i&gt; foreign nations. He&#039;s against a &#039;service&#039; economy, bereft of a robust manufacturing sector. 

He&#039;s against these things not out of principle but for pragmatic reasons. And that is why, despite his occasional forays into cognitive dysfunction and hypocrisy, I can assume that he will, in the end, always do what is in his best interest. But that is NOT simply selfishness or even ego driven motivation, Trump seeks leadership of his team i.e. America and that is exactly how I see him, he sees America and American interests as his &#039;tribe/team&#039;. To use a sports analogy, he&#039;s fighting to be his &lt;i&gt;team&#039;s manager&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OM,</p>
<p>Trump bases his position on self-interest. Until his competitors have to forego the hiring of illegals, he&#8217;s not going to sacrifice his competitive position to a (from a business pov) ivory-tower &#8216;principle&#8217;. </p>
<p>I suspect that Trump&#8217;s position on illegal immigration, Muslim migration and trade is based in &#8216;enlightened&#8217; self-interest. As an American citizen, Trump sees all of them as currently composed, as placing him and America, at a competitive disadvantage. </p>
<p>So, Trump is NOT against the hiring of illegals, he&#8217;s against <i>uncontrolled</i> illegal immigration.<br />
He&#8217;s against importing Muslims because he sees them as a population that <i>in the aggregate</i> is hostile to American foundational principles. He&#8217;s against trade policies that <i>greatly favor</i> foreign nations. He&#8217;s against a &#8216;service&#8217; economy, bereft of a robust manufacturing sector. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s against these things not out of principle but for pragmatic reasons. And that is why, despite his occasional forays into cognitive dysfunction and hypocrisy, I can assume that he will, in the end, always do what is in his best interest. But that is NOT simply selfishness or even ego driven motivation, Trump seeks leadership of his team i.e. America and that is exactly how I see him, he sees America and American interests as his &#8216;tribe/team&#8217;. To use a sports analogy, he&#8217;s fighting to be his <i>team&#8217;s manager</i>.</p>
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		By: OM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GB:

&quot;That said, I will assume he’s serious about illegal immigration until, through his actions he proves otherwise.&quot;

So you assume he is serious now but wasn&#039;t then: Gang of 8, hiring practices in his FL resort.  That would be the difference between actions and promises (suggestions)?  Logical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB:</p>
<p>&#8220;That said, I will assume he’s serious about illegal immigration until, through his actions he proves otherwise.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you assume he is serious now but wasn&#8217;t then: Gang of 8, hiring practices in his FL resort.  That would be the difference between actions and promises (suggestions)?  Logical.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[parker,

Two wrongs do not make a right. The intentional killing of children, for any reason is always an evil.

neo,

IMO, that is an example of Trump&#039;s &quot;shoot from the hip&quot; inconsistency in what he advocates. Yes, those are indications of a man driven by gut reactions rather than principles and yes, that does disqualify him from the office he seeks. 

That said, I will assume he&#039;s serious about illegal immigration until, through his actions he proves otherwise. 

It&#039;s that or roll out the red carpet for Hillary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parker,</p>
<p>Two wrongs do not make a right. The intentional killing of children, for any reason is always an evil.</p>
<p>neo,</p>
<p>IMO, that is an example of Trump&#8217;s &#8220;shoot from the hip&#8221; inconsistency in what he advocates. Yes, those are indications of a man driven by gut reactions rather than principles and yes, that does disqualify him from the office he seeks. </p>
<p>That said, I will assume he&#8217;s serious about illegal immigration until, through his actions he proves otherwise. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s that or roll out the red carpet for Hillary.</p>
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		By: snopercod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[snopercod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 11:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Neo--

Don&#039;t feel badly about not knowing about the bill to electrify Africa at U.S. Taxpayer expense; Nobody else does either. Here&#039;s the link: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.today.ng/news/world/77404/us-president-obama-signs-africa-electricity-plan-into-law&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US President Obama signs Africa electricity plan into law&lt;/a&gt;. On Feb 1 at 5:05 PM when very few congressmen were present, Mr. Royce (sitting in for Paul Ryan) moved to suspend the rules and pass the bill, which they did by &quot;unanimous consent&quot;. Have you ever watched how that works on CSPAN? The speaker says &quot;I move to pass this bill by unanimous consent&quot; and immediately bangs his gavel and the deed is done - even with an empty chamber. So where was Ryan...and why did he allow this bill to be brought to the floor?

Now about the wind farms, read: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.manufacturing.net/news/2016/05/these-two-massive-vietnam-deals-just-inked-during-president-obamas-historic-visit-involve-ge&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;These Two Massive Vietnam Deals Just Inked During President Obama’s Historic Visit Involve GE Technology&lt;/a&gt;. Now you might say that this is just a deal between a private company and Vietnam and we taxpayers aren&#039;t paying anything, but you would wrong. See: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2016/06/06/wind-energy-sector-gets-176-billion-worth-of-crony-capitalism/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wind-energy sector gets $176 billion worth of crony capitalism  &lt;/a&gt;

Then, of course, there&#039;s FDR&#039;s Export-Import bank that Paul Ryan &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/05/export-import-bank-rescued-speaker-paul-ryans-highway-bill/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;rescued&quot;&lt;/a&gt; by sticking it into the Highway Bill.

There&#039;s a pattern here and we &quot;little people&quot; aren&#039;t in it. You would think that Ryan would throw the people a bone every so often just to keep us from getting surly. Take, for example, the &quot;Pilot&#039;s Bill of Rights 2&quot; which would loosen some stupid and expensive FAA regulations that add nothing to safety. The House already passed it once several years ago; The Senate passed it &lt;i&gt;twice&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;, recently, and sent it back to the House, where Ryan has let it languish in committee.  He had an opportunity to amend it to the Defense Appropriations bill that passed a couple days ago, but he didn&#039;t. This silly game has been going on for years and years now; Almost everybody in the aviation community supports the bill, but Ryan won&#039;t bring it to the floor or attach it to another bill. If I had to guess, I&#039;d say he hasn&#039;t yet figured out how to use it to funnel money to GE or some other major contributor.

It&#039;s clear to me that &quot;We, the People&quot; are always last on Ryan&#039;s agenda; That&#039;s why I don&#039;t care for the man.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neo&#8211;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t feel badly about not knowing about the bill to electrify Africa at U.S. Taxpayer expense; Nobody else does either. Here&#8217;s the link: <a href="https://www.today.ng/news/world/77404/us-president-obama-signs-africa-electricity-plan-into-law" rel="nofollow">US President Obama signs Africa electricity plan into law</a>. On Feb 1 at 5:05 PM when very few congressmen were present, Mr. Royce (sitting in for Paul Ryan) moved to suspend the rules and pass the bill, which they did by &#8220;unanimous consent&#8221;. Have you ever watched how that works on CSPAN? The speaker says &#8220;I move to pass this bill by unanimous consent&#8221; and immediately bangs his gavel and the deed is done &#8211; even with an empty chamber. So where was Ryan&#8230;and why did he allow this bill to be brought to the floor?</p>
<p>Now about the wind farms, read: <a href="http://www.manufacturing.net/news/2016/05/these-two-massive-vietnam-deals-just-inked-during-president-obamas-historic-visit-involve-ge" rel="nofollow">These Two Massive Vietnam Deals Just Inked During President Obama’s Historic Visit Involve GE Technology</a>. Now you might say that this is just a deal between a private company and Vietnam and we taxpayers aren&#8217;t paying anything, but you would wrong. See: <a href="https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2016/06/06/wind-energy-sector-gets-176-billion-worth-of-crony-capitalism/" rel="nofollow">Wind-energy sector gets $176 billion worth of crony capitalism  </a></p>
<p>Then, of course, there&#8217;s FDR&#8217;s Export-Import bank that Paul Ryan <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/05/export-import-bank-rescued-speaker-paul-ryans-highway-bill/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;rescued&#8221;</a> by sticking it into the Highway Bill.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a pattern here and we &#8220;little people&#8221; aren&#8217;t in it. You would think that Ryan would throw the people a bone every so often just to keep us from getting surly. Take, for example, the &#8220;Pilot&#8217;s Bill of Rights 2&#8221; which would loosen some stupid and expensive FAA regulations that add nothing to safety. The House already passed it once several years ago; The Senate passed it <i>twice</i><i>, recently, and sent it back to the House, where Ryan has let it languish in committee.  He had an opportunity to amend it to the Defense Appropriations bill that passed a couple days ago, but he didn&#8217;t. This silly game has been going on for years and years now; Almost everybody in the aviation community supports the bill, but Ryan won&#8217;t bring it to the floor or attach it to another bill. If I had to guess, I&#8217;d say he hasn&#8217;t yet figured out how to use it to funnel money to GE or some other major contributor.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear to me that &#8220;We, the People&#8221; are always last on Ryan&#8217;s agenda; That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t care for the man.</i></p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 04:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/28/new-pac-ad-dropping-in-iowa-trump-supports-amnesty-you-know/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Donald Trump supported&lt;/a&gt; the Gang of 8 proposals.

Does &lt;i&gt;he&lt;/i&gt; favor open borders? 

Note &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2016/01/28/when-trump-supported-amnesty/#comment-956625&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this comment&lt;/a&gt; in an old thread on the subject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain:</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/28/new-pac-ad-dropping-in-iowa-trump-supports-amnesty-you-know/" rel="nofollow">Donald Trump supported</a> the Gang of 8 proposals.</p>
<p>Does <i>he</i> favor open borders? </p>
<p>Note <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2016/01/28/when-trump-supported-amnesty/#comment-956625" rel="nofollow">this comment</a> in an old thread on the subject.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 04:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GB.

Kill children?  How many die by abortion? How many are raped/murdered everyday.  IMO, anyone, without regard to age, attempts to enter the USA illrgally must be dealt with the harshest terms.

My grandchilern require nothing lrss.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB.</p>
<p>Kill children?  How many die by abortion? How many are raped/murdered everyday.  IMO, anyone, without regard to age, attempts to enter the USA illrgally must be dealt with the harshest terms.</p>
<p>My grandchilern require nothing lrss.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2016 03:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[parker,

Without regard to age? I can&#039;t agree to killing children. 

Death sentence for reentering? Sure. Drones are fine too. I still say eliminating benefits and going after the employers is the way to self-deportation. Then build a wall where it makes sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parker,</p>
<p>Without regard to age? I can&#8217;t agree to killing children. </p>
<p>Death sentence for reentering? Sure. Drones are fine too. I still say eliminating benefits and going after the employers is the way to self-deportation. Then build a wall where it makes sense.</p>
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