…did you ever wonder how much of your Ryan-hate was based on media spin and how much on reality?

I ask that question to myself all the time. When confronted with an epistemological question, though, I always look at the results to determine who is lying to us. So far, Ryan is found wanting when it comes to results. The federal budget is still going up, Koskinen still hasn’t been impeached, and the U.S. is still spending Billions to build power plants in Africa and wind farms in Vietnam (corporate welfare for GE). I would love to change my assessment of Ryan; All it would take would be ONE small victory for conservatives – just one little thing that I could look to as a sign that Ryan isn’t just another Boehner. Like Lawrence Ferlinghetti, I Am Waiting.

FBI Director Comey and another highly placed official (can’t remember who) have publicly admitted that there is no way to reliably vet Muslim migrants.

Comey was talking about Syrian refugees, not all Muslim migrants. And he said there were “gaps” re vetting the Syrians, not that it was totally unreliable:

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Time for some reality injection:

Ankara ( Erdogan ) is cranking out bona fide documents for the fanatics by the THOUSAND.

In spook speak these documents would be termed ‘legends.’

To top this off, ISIS has its OWN printing shop cranking out top quality synthetic histories for its jihadi troopers.

Would you like Ryan to indicate that if it’s a Republican president (say, Trump) he’d have no problem if that president exceeds his authority and goes the imperial route?

Would that be brave enough for you?

By the way, you wrote: “Of course they twist his words but you’ll notice no complaint from Ryan …”

It depends what you are prepared to notice. Did it ever occur to you, for example, that Ryan may have complained but that the MSM isn’t reporting that? Just as an example, did you happen to notice this addendum at the tail end of the TPM piece I linked to in the post, the one entitled “Paul Ryan On Stopping A President Trump’s Muslim Ban: We’ll Sue Him!”?:

Update: Ryan’s office disputes the headline of this story.

“We believe this headline is flagrantly wrong, which is made clear when actually reading the speaker’s quotes,” Ryan spokesperson AshLee Strong said via email.

I bet “AshLee” and others (maybe even Ryan) have said a lot more on the subject of how he was misquoted, but you’d have to look with a fine-tooth comb to find it. People on the right are misquoted and spun all the time—it must be nearly impossible for them to keep up with it all, and even then they can’t guarantee that the public will pay attention.

You didn’t, for example. And the Ryan-camp disclaimer was right there in the article.

Being on the right does not make you immune to the propaganda of the left.

And to be clear: I’m not saying Ryan is my favorite politician. There are things I like and don’t like about him, but when I research the basis on which some of the Ryan-hate seems to be built, I find that a lot of it is built on sands of propaganda and spin, incomplete and/or incorrect information.

But that’s exactly what I meant, of course—a person can say he/she is not Muslim. Ever hear of taqiya? It’s a fine and highly-developed art.

And no, it’s not easy to verify at all. One reason is that a lot of people have claimed to have lost all papers. And even if there’s some evidence that a person was once a Muslim, that person can claim to have converted to Christianity or some other religion, or to be agnostic or atheist.

I’m talking not about temporary measures, but long-term ones.

And of course the problem of radicalization of existing Muslim citizens remains. In fact, some are even converts. I never suggested that proper vetting of immigrants would solve all problems, and of course that problem is a much knottier one and requires different solutions. Suggestions have been made on that in other threads, but the gist of it is better monitoring of radical mosques, etc..

Controversial, expensive, but necessary.

If Talking Points Memo or the Huffington Post writer can’t point to the part of the interview where Ryan threatened to sue President Trump, then it didn’t happen and they’re lying.

While stories could be shortened in newsprint for lack of space, that doesn’t happen on the Intertubes, especially for an important accusation such as they’re making.

Lying sack of sh*t.

Agree, but it isn’t the easy solution of “Ban All Muslims.” One tool to be used. Currently, it seems none are used.

Israel Security functions profile, but not based on race or religion but on how people act.

From going thru security at Ben Gurion numerous times the security folks will apply a subtle stressor to someone to see how they react.

Point in fact, two different times I was asked to show via some document on my computer that I had actually been working where I said and they knew I had been. 1st time I was exasperated and got deeper scrutiny, 2nd time I said sure, how can I help and they moved on.

Profile the behavior not the person.