That commercial enterprise was selling sex slaves to the Caliphate, btw. And that influence was enormous.

It’s also why Isabella and Spain later on ejected the Muslims and the Jews. Then they copied the slavery from their former overlords.

daf Says:
June 14th, 2016 at 3:25 pm

In much of the Bible, especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to these crazy and immoral laws … “

This is typical of the histrionic lying that one typically encounters in the moral “equivalency” crowd, wherein they

1, imagine that they can blunt a criticism of one belief system or dogmatic work by establishing an equivalence and
2, pointing at what they assume are fatal flaws in,
3, what they presume is your own cherished dogmatic work, and
4, then implying that you are guilty of either hypocrisy or a “double standard” in issuing condemnations because.
5, “your” book is just as bad.

Utter, lying, nonsense.

Notice first of all, daf’s quantifier “much”. It may be vague enough to provide wriggle room in ordinary discourse, but when a specific claim is being made of the kind daf is making, one should be able to go to almost any page of the Torah or Gospels and find commands to kill someone for a putatively “absurd” or “immoral” (a problematical term as used anyway) reason. Certainly by mere line count, much of the Bible does not contain these commands. Could daf mean most of the books of the Bible contain such commands?

Others have already dealt with that brainless implication of daf’s in passing and pointed the way for a more complete critique, so I won’t belabor the passages in Leviticus or Deuteronomy and their actual injunctions.

However, only being past the first clause we come to the second with is also objectionable: “especially the Old Testament”

“Especially”, def.: ” more than usually”, Merriam Webster.

So the insinuation is dropped that the Torah, has comparatively more than the New Testament. This would be three or four more than … Zero? Where in the Gospels does Christ issue a command to kill someone for a violation of the law?

The duplicity of daf’s insinuation, reminds me of a recent debate in which a defender of Islam, grudgingly acknowledged that, well yes, he supposed that compared with Mohammad, the Jesus of the Gospels engaged in relatively fewer acts of the kind under discussion.

Those “comparatively” fewer acts on the part of Jesus, would of course be acts of ambush and robbery, sacking and pillaging, rapine, enslavement, having sex with a nine a year old girl, sentencing others to be killed, and so forth.

Another contributor attempted to save the day for the cause of Islamic equivalency by tarring the Gospels, when he asserted on the basis of some interpretation of Jean Calvin’s, that the injunction to the disciples to shake the dust of a town that was not receptive of the Gospel from their heels, was tantamount to a threat to kill ….

When people are so dishonest that their every misdirective utterance, right down to the clause level, contains an intentional falsehood either overt or implied, they deserve to be treated with unvarnished contempt.

To the best of my knowledge, even with the so-called warrior-popes of the Renaissance like Julius II, Christian wars were internecine between various Christian territories rather than militant conquest of non-Christian peoples; in other words, more like the Sunni-Shiite conflicts than the action of radical jihadists.

Look up the Albigensian Holy War, for an example where the Catholics failed to be Christians in war. No State Religion can be the same as Christendom or original Christianity, the real one.

What we currently have are the Cult of Nice, or modern day Christian social clubs designed for communists or statists.

This is the Islamic one, loosely translated (don’t trust translations of any foreign language which you can’t translate or verify yourself using x, y, or z):

So also was Jonah among those sent (by Us).
When he ran away (like a slave from captivity) to the ship (fully) laden,
He (agreed to) cast lots, and he was condemned:
Then the big Fish did swallow him, and he had done acts worthy of blame.
Had it not been that he (repented and) glorified Allah,
He would certainly have remained inside the Fish till the Day of Resurrection.

Then check the Judaism and Christian versions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah

Notice the date there, after 1300 or even 1400.

What happened between the 700s and 950 AD?

Because if Islam was going to destroy anything, it would be back when new stuff Still Existed, not after they had taken it from the original owners. By 1400 AD, it’s too late to destroy anything new or Christendom, because all the original Christendom has been replaced.

But that is why Jihad is so important, because it guarantees their status.

“Honey, the refrigerator just stopped running, we should paint the bedroom!”

“Why would we paint the bedroom if the refrigerator is not running? It won’t fix the refrigerator.”

“If you don’t support me in painting the bedroom, that means you just like spoiled food and want more of it!”

There is no “Latino community” in Florida.There are Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Venezuelans, Colombians, etc. Everybody socializes but there is no monolithic “community.”

The murderer didn’t need to travel far to find “Latinos” anywhere in FL.

Islamists are recruiting in LatAm https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/with-lure-of-religion-classes-iran-seeks-to-recruit-latin-americans/2013/08/10/8e3592c6-f626-11e2-9434-60440856fadf_story.html

Your quotation is meaningless without a citation. Where did you copy it from? (It makes a big difference if you’re quoting, say, the Encyclopedia Britannica, or if it’s from a high-school term paper.)

As for your other comment, well, it’s difficult to respond if we can’t understand what you’re saying. Would you care to try again, using complete sentences, standard grammar and spelling, and appropriate punctuation? It helps, it truly does.