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		By: junior		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/06/09/trump-university-last-february/#comment-1233994</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[GB - 

If there is no 2nd amendment right to concealed carry, there cannot be a right to open carry. Thus the states that currently allow open carry will, by that ruling, have instituted ‘unconstitutional’ laws.
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The fact that the court rules that there&#039;s no constitutional right to do something doesn&#039;t mean that a state can&#039;t act on its own to grant that right.  A ruling that Open Carry is not constitutional doesn&#039;t actually ban Open Carry.  It means that legislatures can pass laws that do.  So long as the Federal government stays out of the issue, then Texas will (for the foreseeable future) remain a state with Open Carry regardless of what the US Supreme Court rules on the issue.  It&#039;s only if Congress decides to pass a law banning it that Texans would be blocked from open carrying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB &#8211; </p>
<p>If there is no 2nd amendment right to concealed carry, there cannot be a right to open carry. Thus the states that currently allow open carry will, by that ruling, have instituted ‘unconstitutional’ laws.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>The fact that the court rules that there&#8217;s no constitutional right to do something doesn&#8217;t mean that a state can&#8217;t act on its own to grant that right.  A ruling that Open Carry is not constitutional doesn&#8217;t actually ban Open Carry.  It means that legislatures can pass laws that do.  So long as the Federal government stays out of the issue, then Texas will (for the foreseeable future) remain a state with Open Carry regardless of what the US Supreme Court rules on the issue.  It&#8217;s only if Congress decides to pass a law banning it that Texans would be blocked from open carrying.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/06/09/trump-university-last-february/#comment-1232576</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 03:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GB,

I have a concealed carry permit, its called the Second Amendment.  If I wish to carry I carry.  Mostly I carry concealed when I visit our daughter and her family in Chicago. At home I currently feel no need to carry, but that may change, yet I hope not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB,</p>
<p>I have a concealed carry permit, its called the Second Amendment.  If I wish to carry I carry.  Mostly I carry concealed when I visit our daughter and her family in Chicago. At home I currently feel no need to carry, but that may change, yet I hope not.</p>
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		By: OM		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/06/09/trump-university-last-february/#comment-1232519</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 03:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GB:

Some may differ. Texans seem to follow the Molon Labe rule in my understanding.

By the time your hypothetical arrives it will be too late.  Your counter argument is going to be &quot;it&#039;s already too late.&quot;  Article V too scary to try, or impossible to succeed, or ....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB:</p>
<p>Some may differ. Texans seem to follow the Molon Labe rule in my understanding.</p>
<p>By the time your hypothetical arrives it will be too late.  Your counter argument is going to be &#8220;it&#8217;s already too late.&#8221;  Article V too scary to try, or impossible to succeed, or &#8230;.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/06/09/trump-university-last-february/#comment-1232446</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 02:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann, 

The mindset of the lawbreaker sees retreat as an invitation to further aggression. Retreat increases criminality. 

OM,

If there is no 2nd amendment right to concealed carry, there cannot be a right to open carry. Thus the states that currently allow open carry will, by that ruling, have instituted &#039;unconstitutional&#039; laws.

As criminals can always gain access to guns, denying law abiding citizens the right to carry a gun outside the hole effectively denies the right to self-defense. The day that SCOTUS rules that I haven&#039;t a right to self-defense, they have ruled that I haven&#039;t a right to life and on that day, I will fully support the call for an Article V convention. In such a case, my misgivings will remain but the path to tyranny will undeniably be on the horizon. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann, </p>
<p>The mindset of the lawbreaker sees retreat as an invitation to further aggression. Retreat increases criminality. </p>
<p>OM,</p>
<p>If there is no 2nd amendment right to concealed carry, there cannot be a right to open carry. Thus the states that currently allow open carry will, by that ruling, have instituted &#8216;unconstitutional&#8217; laws.</p>
<p>As criminals can always gain access to guns, denying law abiding citizens the right to carry a gun outside the hole effectively denies the right to self-defense. The day that SCOTUS rules that I haven&#8217;t a right to self-defense, they have ruled that I haven&#8217;t a right to life and on that day, I will fully support the call for an Article V convention. In such a case, my misgivings will remain but the path to tyranny will undeniably be on the horizon. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.&#8221;</i> &#8211; Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764</p>
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		By: OM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 01:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So the ninth circus is paving the way (Yellow Brick Road) for  the Supremes to rule again on the Second Amendment.  How will they square disallowing concealed carry with states that allow open carry (TX, AZ) for example?  

But Article V is too scary to consider.  Right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the ninth circus is paving the way (Yellow Brick Road) for  the Supremes to rule again on the Second Amendment.  How will they square disallowing concealed carry with states that allow open carry (TX, AZ) for example?  </p>
<p>But Article V is too scary to consider.  Right.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 00:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oldflyer Says: 
June 9th, 2016 at 5:44 pm
By the way, in a related story, Powerlineblog has a post this morning about William Jefferson Clinton’s honorarium of $16.5 million over four years as Honorary Chancellor of Laureate University. To make it even juicer, HRC’s State Department funneled $55Mil of our money to said University during the period of his tenure. I have no information as to the purported justification. Finally, there was a class action law suit against Slick Willy U similar to the one against TU (dismissed for unknown reasons).

Somehow the media apparently missed all of this.
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Beat me to it.
Amazing how the media can miss things they don&#039;t want to see -- or don&#039;t want us to see -- 
With Republicans, they are just saving the goodies until later, for maximum damage impact.
With Democrats, they throw everything down the memory hole.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oldflyer Says:<br />
June 9th, 2016 at 5:44 pm<br />
By the way, in a related story, Powerlineblog has a post this morning about William Jefferson Clinton’s honorarium of $16.5 million over four years as Honorary Chancellor of Laureate University. To make it even juicer, HRC’s State Department funneled $55Mil of our money to said University during the period of his tenure. I have no information as to the purported justification. Finally, there was a class action law suit against Slick Willy U similar to the one against TU (dismissed for unknown reasons).</p>
<p>Somehow the media apparently missed all of this.<br />
***<br />
Beat me to it.<br />
Amazing how the media can miss things they don&#8217;t want to see &#8212; or don&#8217;t want us to see &#8212;<br />
With Republicans, they are just saving the goodies until later, for maximum damage impact.<br />
With Democrats, they throw everything down the memory hole.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 00:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Informative article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2013/07/is_stand_your_ground_unique_to_the_united_states.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; on the duty to retreat. Interesting that stand your ground laws are bringing U.S. states closer in line with European countries&#039; approach to the matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Informative article <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2013/07/is_stand_your_ground_unique_to_the_united_states.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> on the duty to retreat. Interesting that stand your ground laws are bringing U.S. states closer in line with European countries&#8217; approach to the matter.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/06/09/trump-university-last-february/#comment-1232066</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 00:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[junior,

As the Attorney General, Holder was presumably speaking to the nation. Recalcitrant states will be brought to heel, never fear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>junior,</p>
<p>As the Attorney General, Holder was presumably speaking to the nation. Recalcitrant states will be brought to heel, never fear.</p>
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		By: junior		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/06/09/trump-university-last-february/#comment-1232023</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2016 23:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ironically, my understanding is that California is *not* a &quot;duty to retreat&quot; state - a hold-over from quite a while back when people on the West Coast understood the importance of self-defense.  Of course, how exactly you&#039;re going to survive your decision to not retreat isn&#039;t something that the esteemed jurists need to concern themselves with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, my understanding is that California is *not* a &#8220;duty to retreat&#8221; state &#8211; a hold-over from quite a while back when people on the West Coast understood the importance of self-defense.  Of course, how exactly you&#8217;re going to survive your decision to not retreat isn&#8217;t something that the esteemed jurists need to concern themselves with.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump&#039;s guilt&#039; is obvious, clearly his lack of character makes him unfit for the Presidency. That said, to focus upon and insist that the thief/conman is as bad as the traitor is to reach a new low in disordered priorities. On the left, the more astute are delighted, if astonished, that many on the right are far more concerned with Trump&#039;s unfitness, than they are with the approach of the onrushing collective. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/06/09/9th-circuit/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;9th Circuit: Americans Have No Right To Concealed Carry A Gun Outside Home&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 

Since &quot;open carry&quot; of a gun is anathema to liberal jurists, the 9th circuit barring concealed carry, effectively declares that citizen&#039;s have no right to defend themselves from a mortal threat outside the home. Remember former AG Holder&#039;s reprimand, you have a &#039;duty&#039; to retreat...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump&#8217;s guilt&#8217; is obvious, clearly his lack of character makes him unfit for the Presidency. That said, to focus upon and insist that the thief/conman is as bad as the traitor is to reach a new low in disordered priorities. On the left, the more astute are delighted, if astonished, that many on the right are far more concerned with Trump&#8217;s unfitness, than they are with the approach of the onrushing collective. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/06/09/9th-circuit/" rel="nofollow"><b>&#8220;9th Circuit: Americans Have No Right To Concealed Carry A Gun Outside Home&#8221;</b></a> </p>
<p>Since &#8220;open carry&#8221; of a gun is anathema to liberal jurists, the 9th circuit barring concealed carry, effectively declares that citizen&#8217;s have no right to defend themselves from a mortal threat outside the home. Remember former AG Holder&#8217;s reprimand, you have a &#8216;duty&#8217; to retreat&#8230;</p>
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