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		By: Big Maq		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Maq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2016 06:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GB - you start with &quot;His gut is ‘philosophically’ opposed to it.&quot; and end with &quot;It’s as obvious as the nose on our faces and only willful denial explains dismissal of the writing on the wall.&quot;

In both cases you presume you have knowledge that the rest of us don&#039;t possess, and/or imply ill will on our part.
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&quot;There is a great difference in outcomes between the dictator that demands obedience and the ideologue who demands that we be “true believers”. One commands your body and mouth, the other your body, mouth, mind and soul. &quot;

You have to go with Trump because he&#039;d be, to paraphrase,  a better dictator? 

Dude, do you even care about Liberty?

You ought to be pushing hard for a third choice rather than going all in for Trump, if that is what you really think of him.
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Several of the consequences you mention are what a slide into Europeanization would mean over several years, and they ain&#039;t living under a dictatorship.  

Of course, a crisis could spark something drastic, but Fiscal Collapse (at least talk to me about where Japan is and how we compare before you start telling me that is a likely scenario in the next four years), and Muslim migration (really, you cannot differentiate better than basically all Muslims? Besides, if it is Isreal you want to point out as an example of the folly of Muslim immigration, at least consider that they are not under a dictatorship either)?
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Then, man, you lost me when you start spinning all this conspiracy stuff, like Obama loading up the feds with hollow points, etc.

Seriously, if all that stuff you are fearful of is just about to happen, why would Obama have waited around instead of making it happen on his watch?  Why is he &quot;foregoing the opportunity&quot;?

We have enough real problems to deal with from a Dem admin, we don&#039;t have to be imagining more than there is and drumming up people&#039;s emotions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB &#8211; you start with &#8220;His gut is ‘philosophically’ opposed to it.&#8221; and end with &#8220;It’s as obvious as the nose on our faces and only willful denial explains dismissal of the writing on the wall.&#8221;</p>
<p>In both cases you presume you have knowledge that the rest of us don&#8217;t possess, and/or imply ill will on our part.<br />
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<p>&#8220;There is a great difference in outcomes between the dictator that demands obedience and the ideologue who demands that we be “true believers”. One commands your body and mouth, the other your body, mouth, mind and soul. &#8221;</p>
<p>You have to go with Trump because he&#8217;d be, to paraphrase,  a better dictator? </p>
<p>Dude, do you even care about Liberty?</p>
<p>You ought to be pushing hard for a third choice rather than going all in for Trump, if that is what you really think of him.<br />
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<p>Several of the consequences you mention are what a slide into Europeanization would mean over several years, and they ain&#8217;t living under a dictatorship.  </p>
<p>Of course, a crisis could spark something drastic, but Fiscal Collapse (at least talk to me about where Japan is and how we compare before you start telling me that is a likely scenario in the next four years), and Muslim migration (really, you cannot differentiate better than basically all Muslims? Besides, if it is Isreal you want to point out as an example of the folly of Muslim immigration, at least consider that they are not under a dictatorship either)?<br />
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<p>Then, man, you lost me when you start spinning all this conspiracy stuff, like Obama loading up the feds with hollow points, etc.</p>
<p>Seriously, if all that stuff you are fearful of is just about to happen, why would Obama have waited around instead of making it happen on his watch?  Why is he &#8220;foregoing the opportunity&#8221;?</p>
<p>We have enough real problems to deal with from a Dem admin, we don&#8217;t have to be imagining more than there is and drumming up people&#8217;s emotions.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2016 14:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;If those reasons haven’t persuaded, repeating them serves little purpose. Absent reasoned rebuttal, I can only surmise that willful denial is at play.&lt;/i&gt;

There has been lots of reasoned rebuttle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If those reasons haven’t persuaded, repeating them serves little purpose. Absent reasoned rebuttal, I can only surmise that willful denial is at play.</i></p>
<p>There has been lots of reasoned rebuttle.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2016 03:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nick, 

Of course some others disagree with me that it is a foregone conclusion that Trump is better than Hillary. Above that comment I listed in detail many of the reasons &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; I believe it to be a &#039;foregone conclusion&#039;. If those reasons haven&#039;t persuaded, repeating them serves little purpose. Absent reasoned rebuttal, I can only surmise that willful denial is at play. 

Big Maq,

Good intentions have nothing to do with Trump&#039;s support for Capitalism and aversion to socialism. His gut is &#039;philosophically&#039; opposed to it. 

NO, the combination of Autocrat and Leftist IDEOLOGUE Tendencies gets you right where I fear most, to complete America’s fundamental transformation and the constitution discarded like old newspaper. Trump is a liberal not a leftist and he is decidedly NOT an ideologue. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I fail to see much difference in the outcomes you are comparing. To me an Autocrat is abhorrent, be it Leftist or Rightist, regardless of their “intentions” or their being (or not) “an agent of the left”.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

There is a great difference in outcomes between the dictator that demands obedience and the ideologue who demands that we be &quot;true believers&quot;. One commands your body and mouth, the other your body, mouth, mind and soul. 

I&#039;m insisting that the next four years are critical because I believe we are at a tipping point, where recovery will be impossible. Perhaps I&#039;m wrong, I certainly hope so but can you afford to be wrong? 

Sorry about the broken link. As you know, the Kurzweil Technology curve tracks technological innovation VS time and the curve heads straight up, I ascertain America&#039;s drift to the left as similar. If so it supports the conclusion that we are approaching the tipping point in the fundamental transformation of America. 

If Hillary is elected, the Dems will “(secure) an irreversible advantage” in the next four years &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; it will be impossible to reverse course with &lt;i&gt;another&lt;/i&gt; 15 million illegal immigrants (Clinton has promised to make amnesty and citizenship a priority), a near permanent liberal/leftist SCOTUS, the gutting of the 2nd amendment (9th court ruling that the bearing of arms is not a constitutional right), continued cultural transformations (progression: same-sex marriage-transgendered facilities-plural marriage), etc., etc. If you can&#039;t see the danger as highly pressing, I can&#039;t avoid believing that you&#039;ve got your head in the sand. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;what specifically do you think will happen in the next four years&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

Perhaps nothing specific but the direction the circumstances point is unmistakable. Obama&#039;s feds have armed themselves for armed rebellion (1.5 billion illegal hollow point ammo, 2700 light duty tanks). Fiscal collapse is being greatly accelerated by the dems spendthrift ways and economy killing solutions. Muslim migration spells an Israel like daily terrorist attack future for America. Iran gaining nuclear capability is a game changer, they will provide nukes to terrorist groups. 

Everything the dems are doing leads to any one of several scenarios eventuating where nationwide martial law is imposed. During martial law, the President may legally suspend constitutional guarantees. Do you really think that a President Hillary would forego the &#039;opportunity&#039; such a crisis would offer? A Pres. Warren? A future President Sanders style &#039;socialist&#039;? 

Here&#039;s your future; 
&lt;blockquote&gt; &quot;Rabbi Michael Lerner, &lt;i&gt;“tell the one percent who own 80 percent of the wealth of this country that it’s time to share their wealth,” “close our military bases around the world,” and “imprison those who authorize torture, Tell judges to let out of prison the many African-Americans swept up by racist police and imprisoned by racist judges, many of them in prison today for offenses like possessing marijuana that white people get away with all the time. Tell our elected officials to imprison those who authorize torture and those who ran big banks and investment companies that caused the economic collapse of 2008. Tell the leaders of Turkey to stop killing the Kurds. Tell Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu that the way to get security for Israel is to stop the occupation of the West Bank and help create a Palestinian state. We will not tolerate politicians or anyone else putting down Muslims, or blaming Muslims for a few people”&lt;/i&gt; comments to cheers at Muhammad Ali&#039;s funeral.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


It&#039;s as obvious as the nose on our faces and only willful denial explains dismissal of the writing on the wall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, </p>
<p>Of course some others disagree with me that it is a foregone conclusion that Trump is better than Hillary. Above that comment I listed in detail many of the reasons <i>why</i> I believe it to be a &#8216;foregone conclusion&#8217;. If those reasons haven&#8217;t persuaded, repeating them serves little purpose. Absent reasoned rebuttal, I can only surmise that willful denial is at play. </p>
<p>Big Maq,</p>
<p>Good intentions have nothing to do with Trump&#8217;s support for Capitalism and aversion to socialism. His gut is &#8216;philosophically&#8217; opposed to it. </p>
<p>NO, the combination of Autocrat and Leftist IDEOLOGUE Tendencies gets you right where I fear most, to complete America’s fundamental transformation and the constitution discarded like old newspaper. Trump is a liberal not a leftist and he is decidedly NOT an ideologue. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;I fail to see much difference in the outcomes you are comparing. To me an Autocrat is abhorrent, be it Leftist or Rightist, regardless of their “intentions” or their being (or not) “an agent of the left”.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>There is a great difference in outcomes between the dictator that demands obedience and the ideologue who demands that we be &#8220;true believers&#8221;. One commands your body and mouth, the other your body, mouth, mind and soul. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m insisting that the next four years are critical because I believe we are at a tipping point, where recovery will be impossible. Perhaps I&#8217;m wrong, I certainly hope so but can you afford to be wrong? </p>
<p>Sorry about the broken link. As you know, the Kurzweil Technology curve tracks technological innovation VS time and the curve heads straight up, I ascertain America&#8217;s drift to the left as similar. If so it supports the conclusion that we are approaching the tipping point in the fundamental transformation of America. </p>
<p>If Hillary is elected, the Dems will “(secure) an irreversible advantage” in the next four years <i>because</i> it will be impossible to reverse course with <i>another</i> 15 million illegal immigrants (Clinton has promised to make amnesty and citizenship a priority), a near permanent liberal/leftist SCOTUS, the gutting of the 2nd amendment (9th court ruling that the bearing of arms is not a constitutional right), continued cultural transformations (progression: same-sex marriage-transgendered facilities-plural marriage), etc., etc. If you can&#8217;t see the danger as highly pressing, I can&#8217;t avoid believing that you&#8217;ve got your head in the sand. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;what specifically do you think will happen in the next four years&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>Perhaps nothing specific but the direction the circumstances point is unmistakable. Obama&#8217;s feds have armed themselves for armed rebellion (1.5 billion illegal hollow point ammo, 2700 light duty tanks). Fiscal collapse is being greatly accelerated by the dems spendthrift ways and economy killing solutions. Muslim migration spells an Israel like daily terrorist attack future for America. Iran gaining nuclear capability is a game changer, they will provide nukes to terrorist groups. </p>
<p>Everything the dems are doing leads to any one of several scenarios eventuating where nationwide martial law is imposed. During martial law, the President may legally suspend constitutional guarantees. Do you really think that a President Hillary would forego the &#8216;opportunity&#8217; such a crisis would offer? A Pres. Warren? A future President Sanders style &#8216;socialist&#8217;? </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s your future; </p>
<blockquote><p> &#8220;Rabbi Michael Lerner, <i>“tell the one percent who own 80 percent of the wealth of this country that it’s time to share their wealth,” “close our military bases around the world,” and “imprison those who authorize torture, Tell judges to let out of prison the many African-Americans swept up by racist police and imprisoned by racist judges, many of them in prison today for offenses like possessing marijuana that white people get away with all the time. Tell our elected officials to imprison those who authorize torture and those who ran big banks and investment companies that caused the economic collapse of 2008. Tell the leaders of Turkey to stop killing the Kurds. Tell Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu that the way to get security for Israel is to stop the occupation of the West Bank and help create a Palestinian state. We will not tolerate politicians or anyone else putting down Muslims, or blaming Muslims for a few people”</i> comments to cheers at Muhammad Ali&#8217;s funeral.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s as obvious as the nose on our faces and only willful denial explains dismissal of the writing on the wall.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 23:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[junior; Big Maq:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/story/2012/11/trump-romneys-crazy-policy-of-self-deportation-cost-votes-084238&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s what Trump&lt;/a&gt; had to say about Romney&#039;s solution at the time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>junior; Big Maq:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2012/11/trump-romneys-crazy-policy-of-self-deportation-cost-votes-084238" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s what Trump</a> had to say about Romney&#8217;s solution at the time.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 20:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Romney had a perfectly acceptable solution to what the problem of what to do with the people here. You change the risk vs rewards equation so that they end up going home voluntarily. You set things up so that no employer wants to hire an illegal, making it extremely difficult for illegals to find work.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; - junior

Great point!

To be fair, I think GB was proposing similar... 
http://neoneocon.com/2016/06/07/a-couple-more-things-about-trump-and-judge-curiel/#comment-1229543

When one digs into that approach, there are some problems that crop up, but I doubt there is a perfect solution anyone can come up with that has no downsides.  Nevertheless, incentives do play a huge role in how this problem has come to be, and ought to be a fair target.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Romney had a perfectly acceptable solution to what the problem of what to do with the people here. You change the risk vs rewards equation so that they end up going home voluntarily. You set things up so that no employer wants to hire an illegal, making it extremely difficult for illegals to find work.&#8221;</em> &#8211; junior</p>
<p>Great point!</p>
<p>To be fair, I think GB was proposing similar&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://neoneocon.com/2016/06/07/a-couple-more-things-about-trump-and-judge-curiel/#comment-1229543" rel="nofollow ugc">http://neoneocon.com/2016/06/07/a-couple-more-things-about-trump-and-judge-curiel/#comment-1229543</a></p>
<p>When one digs into that approach, there are some problems that crop up, but I doubt there is a perfect solution anyone can come up with that has no downsides.  Nevertheless, incentives do play a huge role in how this problem has come to be, and ought to be a fair target.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain:

In fact, many alternative candidates on the right (non-Trump candidates, that is) would appeal &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; to the base at this point than Trump himself does, so I don&#039;t get your argument at all.  

I suppose it depends who you consider &quot;the base.&quot;  I do not see any evidence that Trump voters are &quot;the base&quot; of the GOP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain:</p>
<p>In fact, many alternative candidates on the right (non-Trump candidates, that is) would appeal <i>more</i> to the base at this point than Trump himself does, so I don&#8217;t get your argument at all.  </p>
<p>I suppose it depends who you consider &#8220;the base.&#8221;  I do not see any evidence that Trump voters are &#8220;the base&#8221; of the GOP.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;That thinking is wrong. It is a lax assumption that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, simply by the default of our own inaction to make the conservative case to them.

Really, it is an excuse we are giving ourselves.

Our conservative principles should have universal appeal — after all, our society is founded on them and is why we are such a magnet to begin with.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;That thinking is wrong. It is a lax assumption that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, simply by the default of our own inaction to make the conservative case to them.</p>
<p>Really, it is an excuse we are giving ourselves.</p>
<p>Our conservative principles should have universal appeal — after all, our society is founded on them and is why we are such a magnet to begin with.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>This.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Romney had a perfectly acceptable solution to what the problem of what to do with the people here.  You change the risk vs rewards equation so that they end up going home voluntarily.  You set things up so that no employer wants to hire an illegal, making it extremely difficult for illegals to find work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney had a perfectly acceptable solution to what the problem of what to do with the people here.  You change the risk vs rewards equation so that they end up going home voluntarily.  You set things up so that no employer wants to hire an illegal, making it extremely difficult for illegals to find work.</p>
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