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		By: junior		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[junior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2016 19:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, SHH!!!

You&#039;re disturbing the narrative!

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, SHH!!!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re disturbing the narrative!</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2016 19:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[progressoverpeace:

I didn&#039;t realize you&#039;d been here before.  I guess because you haven&#039;t commented that much; I didn&#039;t recognize your moniker.  You&#039;ve certainly been making up for lost time lately :-) !

However, though you say you&#039;re just giving your view on what happened, I&#039;m giving you facts.  You had said Trump was the only one; he was NOT the only one. That&#039;s a fact.  Now you say that he was the only one for people who considered the issue a deal-breaker---not true either. I care deeply about the issue (as do a lot of commenters here) and consider it somewhat of a deal-breaker, and I found other candidates (particularly Cruz) just fine. Actually much better than Trump for 2 reasons---one is that &lt;i&gt;Cruz had put his money where his mouth is&lt;/i&gt; and acted on the issue, and Trump (as I wrote previously) has been inconsistent and vacillating on it.

You cite Rubio, but I didn&#039;t mention Rubio.

By the way, Trump&#039;s emphasis on the issue was not present when he launched his campaign. He only sunk his teeth into it after he got all the attention for his &quot;rapist&quot; remarks.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2015/10/01/about-that-conversation-on-illegal-immigration-and-trump/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See this&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>progressoverpeace:</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realize you&#8217;d been here before.  I guess because you haven&#8217;t commented that much; I didn&#8217;t recognize your moniker.  You&#8217;ve certainly been making up for lost time lately 🙂 !</p>
<p>However, though you say you&#8217;re just giving your view on what happened, I&#8217;m giving you facts.  You had said Trump was the only one; he was NOT the only one. That&#8217;s a fact.  Now you say that he was the only one for people who considered the issue a deal-breaker&#8212;not true either. I care deeply about the issue (as do a lot of commenters here) and consider it somewhat of a deal-breaker, and I found other candidates (particularly Cruz) just fine. Actually much better than Trump for 2 reasons&#8212;one is that <i>Cruz had put his money where his mouth is</i> and acted on the issue, and Trump (as I wrote previously) has been inconsistent and vacillating on it.</p>
<p>You cite Rubio, but I didn&#8217;t mention Rubio.</p>
<p>By the way, Trump&#8217;s emphasis on the issue was not present when he launched his campaign. He only sunk his teeth into it after he got all the attention for his &#8220;rapist&#8221; remarks.  <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2015/10/01/about-that-conversation-on-illegal-immigration-and-trump/" rel="nofollow">See this</a>.</p>
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		By: Nick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2016 19:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But...but...but...you don&#039;t agree with us!  We must preserve the purity of the website!

I hope none of us are doing that.  I don&#039;t think we are, consciously.  I think you&#039;ve said a couple of things that are wrong, but nothing I&#039;d consider trolling.  So carry on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But&#8230;but&#8230;but&#8230;you don&#8217;t agree with us!  We must preserve the purity of the website!</p>
<p>I hope none of us are doing that.  I don&#8217;t think we are, consciously.  I think you&#8217;ve said a couple of things that are wrong, but nothing I&#8217;d consider trolling.  So carry on.</p>
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		By: progressoverpeace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[progressoverpeace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2016 18:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;neo-neocon Says: 

You have a very interesting definition of “the base.” It seems to mean whoever you happen to want it to mean. “The base” supported many other candidates–in fact, was split among them.&lt;/em&gt;

Not really.  The only real competition among the base was between Trump and Cruz.

&lt;em&gt;You haven’t been here long,&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, I&#039;ve been commenting here, on and off, for years.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2012/06/29/a-new-meme-ive-noticed-today/#comment-377361&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2012/09/21/anti-colonialist-obama/#comment-420157&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.  It&#039;s only been intermittent posting ... but I&#039;ve been around.

&lt;em&gt; but if you had been you might have discovered through your reading that most of the people here are extremely concerned with illegal immigration, and have been for years.&lt;/em&gt;

I was giving my opinion on what the mechanics of the primary were - addressing the primary voters, in general, not the stances of any of the commenters, here.  People for whom the illegals issue is a deal breaker, Trump was pretty much their only choice.  Others might care about the border issue but not rank it up as a deal-breaker.  

I am just giving you my view on what happened.  I think that, having seen this same thing play out with the GOP and aid and comfort ot illegals in 2006-2007 (and all the destruction that followed) this wouldn&#039;t be that much of a surprise.

And your claim that others came down hard on the illegal issue ... not from my point of view.  Sure ... Rubio starts lying up a storm every time he&#039;s in a campaign (and others follow suit) but that sort of stuff means little to me and I would venture that it meant little to many of the GOP primary voters.  Just my opinion on what happened, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>neo-neocon Says: </p>
<p>You have a very interesting definition of “the base.” It seems to mean whoever you happen to want it to mean. “The base” supported many other candidates–in fact, was split among them.</em></p>
<p>Not really.  The only real competition among the base was between Trump and Cruz.</p>
<p><em>You haven’t been here long,</em></p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;ve been commenting here, on and off, for years.  See <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2012/06/29/a-new-meme-ive-noticed-today/#comment-377361" rel="nofollow">this</a> or <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2012/09/21/anti-colonialist-obama/#comment-420157" rel="nofollow">this</a>.  It&#8217;s only been intermittent posting &#8230; but I&#8217;ve been around.</p>
<p><em> but if you had been you might have discovered through your reading that most of the people here are extremely concerned with illegal immigration, and have been for years.</em></p>
<p>I was giving my opinion on what the mechanics of the primary were &#8211; addressing the primary voters, in general, not the stances of any of the commenters, here.  People for whom the illegals issue is a deal breaker, Trump was pretty much their only choice.  Others might care about the border issue but not rank it up as a deal-breaker.  </p>
<p>I am just giving you my view on what happened.  I think that, having seen this same thing play out with the GOP and aid and comfort ot illegals in 2006-2007 (and all the destruction that followed) this wouldn&#8217;t be that much of a surprise.</p>
<p>And your claim that others came down hard on the illegal issue &#8230; not from my point of view.  Sure &#8230; Rubio starts lying up a storm every time he&#8217;s in a campaign (and others follow suit) but that sort of stuff means little to me and I would venture that it meant little to many of the GOP primary voters.  Just my opinion on what happened, though.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2016 18:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[progressoverpeace,

See my comment at 1:13pm. Are we really sure Trump cares about immigration as much as he says?

He&#039;s making a sale, and saying whatever he needs to to make it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>progressoverpeace,</p>
<p>See my comment at 1:13pm. Are we really sure Trump cares about immigration as much as he says?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s making a sale, and saying whatever he needs to to make it.</p>
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		By: OM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2016 18:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Progressiveoverpeas:

Walker, Jindal, Paul, Rubio.  I don&#039;t think the word &#039;base&quot; means what you think it means.  When I think of &quot;base&quot; I think of Trump, it&#039;s not a compliment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progressiveoverpeas:</p>
<p>Walker, Jindal, Paul, Rubio.  I don&#8217;t think the word &#8216;base&#8221; means what you think it means.  When I think of &#8220;base&#8221; I think of Trump, it&#8217;s not a compliment.</p>
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		By: Cap'n Rusty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cap'n Rusty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2016 18:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cornhead:

You noted that VA governor McAuliffe is under FBI investigation for Clinton Foundation dealings.

I&#039;m aware that the FBI is investigating him for campaign contributions from someone located in the US, but who might actually be a Chinese national. I know the FBI is investigating the Clinton Foundation, and McAuliffe was one of the directors of that &lt;strike&gt;Foundation&lt;/strike&gt; criminal syndicate in years past. My take is that they have something on McAuliffe that they might &quot;trade&quot; for info on the &quot;foundation.&quot; Given that the man has no loyalties, I expect he will sing like a canary to stay out of the slammer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornhead:</p>
<p>You noted that VA governor McAuliffe is under FBI investigation for Clinton Foundation dealings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m aware that the FBI is investigating him for campaign contributions from someone located in the US, but who might actually be a Chinese national. I know the FBI is investigating the Clinton Foundation, and McAuliffe was one of the directors of that <strike>Foundation</strike> criminal syndicate in years past. My take is that they have something on McAuliffe that they might &#8220;trade&#8221; for info on the &#8220;foundation.&#8221; Given that the man has no loyalties, I expect he will sing like a canary to stay out of the slammer.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2016 18:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[progressoverpeace:

You have a very interesting definition of &quot;the base.&quot;  It seems to mean whoever you happen to want it to mean.  &quot;The base&quot; supported many other candidates---in fact, was split among them.  

You haven&#039;t been here long, but if you had been you might have discovered through your reading that most of the people here are extremely concerned with illegal immigration, and have been for years.  What&#039;s more, it&#039;s untrue (but a typical Trump-supporter assertion) that Trump was &quot;the only candidate who addressed that.&quot;  That&#039;s one of many Trump myths that have been repeated and repeated, but repeating it doesn&#039;t make it so. 

I wrote a bunch of posts on that very subject, back when the primaries were happening.  I&#039;m not going to waste time re-proving it, but see (for example) &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2016/01/26/2011-ted-cruz-on-the-wall-and-amnesty/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2015/12/14/cruzs-comprehensive-immigration-plan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, as well as &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2015/08/15/fiorina-sounds-tough-on-immigration/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.  In addition (as you probably know but would like to ignore), Trump&#039;s position on immigration---as cited by his followers---isn&#039;t his position on immigration because practically &lt;i&gt;every one&lt;/i&gt; of the things he has said he has also walked back.  His actual position is a mystery.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>progressoverpeace:</p>
<p>You have a very interesting definition of &#8220;the base.&#8221;  It seems to mean whoever you happen to want it to mean.  &#8220;The base&#8221; supported many other candidates&#8212;in fact, was split among them.  </p>
<p>You haven&#8217;t been here long, but if you had been you might have discovered through your reading that most of the people here are extremely concerned with illegal immigration, and have been for years.  What&#8217;s more, it&#8217;s untrue (but a typical Trump-supporter assertion) that Trump was &#8220;the only candidate who addressed that.&#8221;  That&#8217;s one of many Trump myths that have been repeated and repeated, but repeating it doesn&#8217;t make it so. </p>
<p>I wrote a bunch of posts on that very subject, back when the primaries were happening.  I&#8217;m not going to waste time re-proving it, but see (for example) <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2016/01/26/2011-ted-cruz-on-the-wall-and-amnesty/" rel="nofollow">this</a> and <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2015/12/14/cruzs-comprehensive-immigration-plan/" rel="nofollow">this</a>, as well as <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2015/08/15/fiorina-sounds-tough-on-immigration/" rel="nofollow">this</a>.  In addition (as you probably know but would like to ignore), Trump&#8217;s position on immigration&#8212;as cited by his followers&#8212;isn&#8217;t his position on immigration because practically <i>every one</i> of the things he has said he has also walked back.  His actual position is a mystery.</p>
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		By: progressoverpeace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[progressoverpeace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2016 18:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;“Losers” in Trump-speak just means anyone who opposes Trump.&#060;/cite?

No.  It means people the Republican base could not be interested in, in the least.  Out of all of the primary candidates the only ones that were serious candidates (that the base would actually vote for) were Trump and Cruz.  Carson is a nice guy who is very accomplished in life but hardly cut out for politics of any sort.  The rest of the candidates were ... put whatever label on them that you want but the description is &#034;generally detested by the great bulk of the party base.&#034;  

The base has long been most concerned with illegals and the fact that our country is being given away to the world as if we owe them all that we have and the only candidate who addressed that was Trump.  A country without borders and without any sense of sovereignty is not a country.  That pretty much ends everything there.&lt;/cite&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>“Losers” in Trump-speak just means anyone who opposes Trump.&lt;/cite?</p>
<p>No.  It means people the Republican base could not be interested in, in the least.  Out of all of the primary candidates the only ones that were serious candidates (that the base would actually vote for) were Trump and Cruz.  Carson is a nice guy who is very accomplished in life but hardly cut out for politics of any sort.  The rest of the candidates were &#8230; put whatever label on them that you want but the description is &quot;generally detested by the great bulk of the party base.&quot;  </p>
<p>The base has long been most concerned with illegals and the fact that our country is being given away to the world as if we owe them all that we have and the only candidate who addressed that was Trump.  A country without borders and without any sense of sovereignty is not a country.  That pretty much ends everything there.</cite></p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2016 17:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Losers&quot;&lt;/i&gt; in Trump-speak just means anyone who opposes Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Losers&#8221;</i> in Trump-speak just means anyone who opposes Trump.</p>
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