People only talk about things when they become imminent, then it’s too late to stop the events in motion, so all they can do is talk about them.

America has long ago run out of time, and second chances. This may be the last back stop until the Pyrhhic Victory or Retreat and Burn the Russians did against Napoleon, but it’s not going to be quite as successful as people hope. The cost will most likely be higher than people can imagine.

My point is that the consequence of America’s ‘decision’ to install either Trump or Hillary/Sanders/Biden will be the reaping of a whirlwind.

The nature of that whirlwind may be the same or it may differ enough to matter. Time will tell. But however things go; Improvise, Adapt and Overcome.

OM,

Yes, seizing lifeboats rarely ends well. Desperate, ‘stampeding herds’ of people are incapable of reasoned actions.

Rudyard Kipling had the right of it;

“If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream–and not make dreams your master;
If you can think–and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings–nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And–which is more–you’ll be a Man, my son!”

Plus he is often critical of everyone but himself.

Those two qualities combined more than bug me.

The Left has been shouting down reasonable people on all sides of the issues for decades; when the Right (especially in the leadership cohort of the Republican Party) weighed in against the concerns of the “peons” as well, there arose a perception that no reasonable people remained in the discourse.

Seizing lifeboats generally doesn’t work out if you have read anything regarding loss of life at sea.

Jammed rigging/davits, boats dropped into the ocean/smashed, boat overfilled or with not enough people aboard… Those who keep their head in times of peril are more likely to be of service and survive.

You admit to… pardon the Adolf comparison, but this was exactly the Weimar Republic circa 1931. A non PC nationalist demagogue. Wow, yes all abandon principals for a reality tv progressive in non pc clothing. Yes, lets all line up to vote for a progressive who will champion pretend to be a confused gender puppy in my granddaughter’s shower room. No, I prefer a wall, blindfolds, and 30 caliber.

Djt is an extraordinary set of circumstances. Its like Son of Sam in charge of the DOJ. When you side with the burn it down crowd you shall reap the whirlwind.

I was joking about the SS, well mostly. From my pov your possibility that trump may surprise has all the weight of turning an F5 tornado away from my house with a fart. Yes, djt will surprise given the opportunity. Increased funding for PP. ‘Assualt weapon’ bans via EO. XYs in XX shower rooms. Yet another “reset” with Putin. And the beat goes on, and on, and on, and on. A big, YUGE sheesh.

I’m not hopeful but do admit to the possibility that Trump may surprise in, despite himself, accomplishing some things of worth.

For the Sec. Service to step in will require an extraordinary set of circumstances.

The grandeur of donald will do absolutely nothing on the wish list should he end up inhabiting 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I just hope that should that happen there are SS agents who will throw him down and handcuff him if he starts playing with ‘the nuclear football’. 😉