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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/24/rousseau-the-left-and-islamist-terrorism/#comment-1200660</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2016 14:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Surely, they are interested in the Enlightenment values of reason, human rights (such as for homosexuals and for women) and individual freedom?&lt;/b&gt;

Surely zombies are not interested.

Which is why they are winning in the US, when people try to fight an enemy they do not understand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Surely, they are interested in the Enlightenment values of reason, human rights (such as for homosexuals and for women) and individual freedom?</b></p>
<p>Surely zombies are not interested.</p>
<p>Which is why they are winning in the US, when people try to fight an enemy they do not understand.</p>
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		By: Maggie's Farm		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/24/rousseau-the-left-and-islamist-terrorism/#comment-1195519</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggie's Farm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2016 11:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Thursday morning links&lt;/strong&gt;

Pizza Hut To Replace Waiters In Asia With Robots — And They Don’t Need $15/Hour To Do Their Jobs… Foxconn replaces &#039;60,000 factory workers with robots&#039; McDonald&#039;s and robots Chanel:&#160; “Dress shabbily and they remember the dress; dres]]></description>
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<p>Pizza Hut To Replace Waiters In Asia With Robots — And They Don’t Need $15/Hour To Do Their Jobs… Foxconn replaces &#8216;60,000 factory workers with robots&#8217; McDonald&#8217;s and robots Chanel:&nbsp; “Dress shabbily and they remember the dress; dres</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2016 19:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GB...

Scan this:

Paul Rosenberg elaborates on my squib.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-25/system-wont-survive-robots

The idiots clamoring for $15.00 are so retro....

The REAL clamor ought to be for totally closed borders.

ONLY during such periods have the &#039;bottoms&#039; moved up into the &#039;middle.&#039;

BTW, the American welfare state gives these aliens FAR more of a leg up than it does those born natively. It&#039;s not even close.

This MUST STOP.

It&#039;s breaking the piggy bank -- and our national culture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB&#8230;</p>
<p>Scan this:</p>
<p>Paul Rosenberg elaborates on my squib.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-25/system-wont-survive-robots" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-25/system-wont-survive-robots</a></p>
<p>The idiots clamoring for $15.00 are so retro&#8230;.</p>
<p>The REAL clamor ought to be for totally closed borders.</p>
<p>ONLY during such periods have the &#8216;bottoms&#8217; moved up into the &#8216;middle.&#8217;</p>
<p>BTW, the American welfare state gives these aliens FAR more of a leg up than it does those born natively. It&#8217;s not even close.</p>
<p>This MUST STOP.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s breaking the piggy bank &#8212; and our national culture.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/24/rousseau-the-left-and-islamist-terrorism/#comment-1193248</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2016 12:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem is utopianist politics; the problem is perfectionist politics:

Utopianist and perfectionist politics within a context that is devoid of God, which context appears to be necessary even if one is skeptical about God&#039;s existence (given the necessity for a) acknowledging Human frailties, b) the always present possibility of God&#039;s forgiveness, and c) the entire notion of love, loyalty, crime, punishment, morality and redemption as deriving from a divine source). 

One&#039;s mileage may, of course, vary.

Moreover, one might well object to the all-too-frequent phenomenon of utopianist and perfectionist politics that exist precisely within a religious context.... to which one may retort that if such is the case, then the perpetrators have a most unsatisfactory understanding of the divine in whose name they act....)

Politics must be the art of the possible, not perfection:
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/202804/henry-roth-meets-bernie-sanders]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is utopianist politics; the problem is perfectionist politics:</p>
<p>Utopianist and perfectionist politics within a context that is devoid of God, which context appears to be necessary even if one is skeptical about God&#8217;s existence (given the necessity for a) acknowledging Human frailties, b) the always present possibility of God&#8217;s forgiveness, and c) the entire notion of love, loyalty, crime, punishment, morality and redemption as deriving from a divine source). </p>
<p>One&#8217;s mileage may, of course, vary.</p>
<p>Moreover, one might well object to the all-too-frequent phenomenon of utopianist and perfectionist politics that exist precisely within a religious context&#8230;. to which one may retort that if such is the case, then the perpetrators have a most unsatisfactory understanding of the divine in whose name they act&#8230;.)</p>
<p>Politics must be the art of the possible, not perfection:<br />
<a href="http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/202804/henry-roth-meets-bernie-sanders" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/202804/henry-roth-meets-bernie-sanders</a></p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2016 03:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[blert, 

Robotics, A.I. and the future societal implications for human labor. Thoughts? 

Recently saw an article about the fast food chain Wendy&#039;s plans to replace human order takers with self-service kiosks in its 6000 locations. Google the automatic hamburger machine that has a capacity of 400 CUSTOM burgers per hour...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert, </p>
<p>Robotics, A.I. and the future societal implications for human labor. Thoughts? </p>
<p>Recently saw an article about the fast food chain Wendy&#8217;s plans to replace human order takers with self-service kiosks in its 6000 locations. Google the automatic hamburger machine that has a capacity of 400 CUSTOM burgers per hour&#8230;</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/24/rousseau-the-left-and-islamist-terrorism/#comment-1192363</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2016 03:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo, 

I introduced my daughter to &quot;The Court Jester&quot; when she was a child and even now @30, she adores it. Made as a tongue in cheek satire of the old swashbuckling movies, it transcends its modest ambitions and attains inclusion in the classics. So far in sophistication above what today passes for comedy, that it arguably has become a sad commentary on the decline in American art.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo, </p>
<p>I introduced my daughter to &#8220;The Court Jester&#8221; when she was a child and even now @30, she adores it. Made as a tongue in cheek satire of the old swashbuckling movies, it transcends its modest ambitions and attains inclusion in the classics. So far in sophistication above what today passes for comedy, that it arguably has become a sad commentary on the decline in American art.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/24/rousseau-the-left-and-islamist-terrorism/#comment-1192110</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2016 01:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain Says:
May 24th, 2016 at 10:36 am

I entirely agree as to Rousseau’s influence. But René Descartes leads directly to Rousseau.

René Descartes

    “Dubbed the father of modern western philosophy, much of subsequent Western philosophy is a response to his writings,[10][11] which are studied closely to this day.”

It is Descartes “mechanical philosophy” that leads directly to Rousseau and arguably, Rousseau leads to Marx.

    “”I should like you to consider that these functions (including passion, memory, and imagination) follow from the mere arrangement of the machine’s* organs every bit as naturally as the movements of a clock or other automaton follow from the arrangement of its counter-weights and wheels.” (Descartes, Treatise on Man, p.108)”

*Descartes sees humanity as biological machines.


&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;

And so did &lt;b&gt;Taylor.&lt;/b&gt;

It is Taylorism that operates on the fevered minds of the Progressive Left unto this hour.

Frederick Winslow Taylor came from a completely independent path -- Time and Motion Studies -- to arrive at the same train station of thought.

It was TAYLOR&#039;s micro-world view -- a Bottom UP analysis -- that drove him to conclude that machinists -- the high tech workers of his era -- ought to be treated as production cogs.

This led -- almost directly -- to the &lt;i&gt;moving&lt;/i&gt; assembly line.

( Invented by the Dodge Brothers, not Henry Ford, BTW. They were co-owners of Ford Motor Company at the time, now you know why. )

Assembly lines had long existed. Interchangeable parts started with the American Civil War and the Springfield Armory, IIRC. (It took a long time to perfect, BTW.)

The Dodge Brothers pulled moving + assembly + interchangeable parts into the 1912 miracle $5 per day work force.

That seized the imaginations of EVERYONE.

Prior to that quantum leap, no-one in economic history had doubled wages in a single bound.

&#038;&#038;&#038;

Then Dewey took Taylorism to the classroom.

Stalin took Taylorism to heart -- and a vicious, dark heart he had.

It was Taylorist &#039;logic&#039; (more towards belief) that slothful production was wilful betrayal of the employer by the guild&#039;s men. ( Or production line workers, as the case may be. )

With that rationale, Stalin felt no compunction about whipping his serfs// slaves// prisoners to death to met production quotas pulled out of his ear -- and worse.

If one should wonder how mighty Pharaoh built his toys -- one need look no further than Peter the Great and Stalin, murderous bastards, both.

Saint Petersberg // Leningrad -- not a city but a graveyard.

What Stalin had blemished -- became an international frenzy during WWII in Europe. Everywhere one turned it was forced labor, whips, beatings, and exponential production demands.

I should say that Foxconn ( Taipei ) has taken Taylorism to the limit... For now the &#039;cogs&#039; are being replaced by robots.

&#038;&#038;&#038;

We are entering a perilous transition.

A society that has structured ALL upon the 40-hour work week and human output MUST transition to a society that really can&#039;t use most of humanity in any productive way.

This is glaringly true in the Third World, where lack of metal agility and memory meets Neolithic values and rapacious skill sets. ( &#039;Tis better to steal than to produce. cf Somalia, Yemen, KSA, and the rest of the parasitic ummah.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain Says:<br />
May 24th, 2016 at 10:36 am</p>
<p>I entirely agree as to Rousseau’s influence. But René Descartes leads directly to Rousseau.</p>
<p>René Descartes</p>
<p>    “Dubbed the father of modern western philosophy, much of subsequent Western philosophy is a response to his writings,[10][11] which are studied closely to this day.”</p>
<p>It is Descartes “mechanical philosophy” that leads directly to Rousseau and arguably, Rousseau leads to Marx.</p>
<p>    “”I should like you to consider that these functions (including passion, memory, and imagination) follow from the mere arrangement of the machine’s* organs every bit as naturally as the movements of a clock or other automaton follow from the arrangement of its counter-weights and wheels.” (Descartes, Treatise on Man, p.108)”</p>
<p>*Descartes sees humanity as biological machines.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>And so did <b>Taylor.</b></p>
<p>It is Taylorism that operates on the fevered minds of the Progressive Left unto this hour.</p>
<p>Frederick Winslow Taylor came from a completely independent path &#8212; Time and Motion Studies &#8212; to arrive at the same train station of thought.</p>
<p>It was TAYLOR&#8217;s micro-world view &#8212; a Bottom UP analysis &#8212; that drove him to conclude that machinists &#8212; the high tech workers of his era &#8212; ought to be treated as production cogs.</p>
<p>This led &#8212; almost directly &#8212; to the <i>moving</i> assembly line.</p>
<p>( Invented by the Dodge Brothers, not Henry Ford, BTW. They were co-owners of Ford Motor Company at the time, now you know why. )</p>
<p>Assembly lines had long existed. Interchangeable parts started with the American Civil War and the Springfield Armory, IIRC. (It took a long time to perfect, BTW.)</p>
<p>The Dodge Brothers pulled moving + assembly + interchangeable parts into the 1912 miracle $5 per day work force.</p>
<p>That seized the imaginations of EVERYONE.</p>
<p>Prior to that quantum leap, no-one in economic history had doubled wages in a single bound.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>Then Dewey took Taylorism to the classroom.</p>
<p>Stalin took Taylorism to heart &#8212; and a vicious, dark heart he had.</p>
<p>It was Taylorist &#8216;logic&#8217; (more towards belief) that slothful production was wilful betrayal of the employer by the guild&#8217;s men. ( Or production line workers, as the case may be. )</p>
<p>With that rationale, Stalin felt no compunction about whipping his serfs// slaves// prisoners to death to met production quotas pulled out of his ear &#8212; and worse.</p>
<p>If one should wonder how mighty Pharaoh built his toys &#8212; one need look no further than Peter the Great and Stalin, murderous bastards, both.</p>
<p>Saint Petersberg // Leningrad &#8212; not a city but a graveyard.</p>
<p>What Stalin had blemished &#8212; became an international frenzy during WWII in Europe. Everywhere one turned it was forced labor, whips, beatings, and exponential production demands.</p>
<p>I should say that Foxconn ( Taipei ) has taken Taylorism to the limit&#8230; For now the &#8216;cogs&#8217; are being replaced by robots.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>We are entering a perilous transition.</p>
<p>A society that has structured ALL upon the 40-hour work week and human output MUST transition to a society that really can&#8217;t use most of humanity in any productive way.</p>
<p>This is glaringly true in the Third World, where lack of metal agility and memory meets Neolithic values and rapacious skill sets. ( &#8216;Tis better to steal than to produce. cf Somalia, Yemen, KSA, and the rest of the parasitic ummah.)</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2016 00:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain:

On &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/09/obama-the-poison-chalice-and/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Court Jester&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain:</p>
<p>On &#8220;<a href="http://neoneocon.com/2009/10/09/obama-the-poison-chalice-and/" rel="nofollow">The Court Jester</a>.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Donkatsu		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/24/rousseau-the-left-and-islamist-terrorism/#comment-1192013</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkatsu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2016 00:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[De Duva; thank you, autocorrect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>De Duva; thank you, autocorrect.</p>
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		By: Donkatsu		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/24/rousseau-the-left-and-islamist-terrorism/#comment-1191864</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donkatsu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2016 22:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, DNW,

Can any of these duels compare with the competition with Death in &quot;De Diva&quot;? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X2QmLWWxq4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, DNW,</p>
<p>Can any of these duels compare with the competition with Death in &#8220;De Diva&#8221;? <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X2QmLWWxq4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X2QmLWWxq4</a></p>
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