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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s far more likely that US traitors will nuke the US and blame it on the patriots, than Iran or NK.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s far more likely that US traitors will nuke the US and blame it on the patriots, than Iran or NK.</p>
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		By: OM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 14:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blert::

The working world. Not the posting world.  

The working world, that&#039;s the place where the regulations and diktats from the upper level try to get implemented.  That&#039;s where costs and consequences get sorted out.    

You have stated the obvious (upper level civil &quot;servants&quot;) and declared it the rule for all employees.  How wise and prescient.

As posted before I&#039;ve worked in the coal and petroleum industries  (exploration and extraction). Uranium (mining), environmental remediation (Superfund, RCRA).  So I know a thing or two about regulators and regulations beyond just posting opinions as fact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blert::</p>
<p>The working world. Not the posting world.  </p>
<p>The working world, that&#8217;s the place where the regulations and diktats from the upper level try to get implemented.  That&#8217;s where costs and consequences get sorted out.    </p>
<p>You have stated the obvious (upper level civil &#8220;servants&#8221;) and declared it the rule for all employees.  How wise and prescient.</p>
<p>As posted before I&#8217;ve worked in the coal and petroleum industries  (exploration and extraction). Uranium (mining), environmental remediation (Superfund, RCRA).  So I know a thing or two about regulators and regulations beyond just posting opinions as fact.</p>
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		By: Tom G		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 12:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;we risk the destruction of the country DURING HIS TERM.&quot;
Nuclear war, like the ending of WW II, is not the destruction of the country.

Iran gets the bomb, nukes Tel Aviv.  What does Israel do?  What does the US do?
The US is not destroyed.  This future is closer thanks to Obama-Clinton support for Iran &#038; their program.

Or perhaps the Shiite Iranians don&#039;t nuke Tel Aviv, but threaten to, while also threatening Saudi Arabia -- which then also starts getting nukes.  The local arms race continues until ... some side uses a nuke.

The US is not destroyed, tho there is bigger chance of small nukes killing a few million.

I am absolutely certain this will be the trajectory of history with anti-war big spending cronyism Dems.  It&#039;s also possible with Trump and more Reps in Congress, but less likely.

Sowell&#039;s fine note doesn&#039;t discuss how support for the Dem or Rep president helps the Congress bids of the same party.  We need more Reps &#038; conservatives in Congress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we risk the destruction of the country DURING HIS TERM.&#8221;<br />
Nuclear war, like the ending of WW II, is not the destruction of the country.</p>
<p>Iran gets the bomb, nukes Tel Aviv.  What does Israel do?  What does the US do?<br />
The US is not destroyed.  This future is closer thanks to Obama-Clinton support for Iran &amp; their program.</p>
<p>Or perhaps the Shiite Iranians don&#8217;t nuke Tel Aviv, but threaten to, while also threatening Saudi Arabia &#8212; which then also starts getting nukes.  The local arms race continues until &#8230; some side uses a nuke.</p>
<p>The US is not destroyed, tho there is bigger chance of small nukes killing a few million.</p>
<p>I am absolutely certain this will be the trajectory of history with anti-war big spending cronyism Dems.  It&#8217;s also possible with Trump and more Reps in Congress, but less likely.</p>
<p>Sowell&#8217;s fine note doesn&#8217;t discuss how support for the Dem or Rep president helps the Congress bids of the same party.  We need more Reps &amp; conservatives in Congress.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 05:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OM Says:
May 17th, 2016 at 11:08 pm

Blert:

Do you actually know anyone who works for the “Feds,” one of the many alphabet agencies? I do, not all liberal or conservative, many apolitical. Have you worked professionally with any? I have.

&#038;&#038;&#038;

The minions that count are clones of Lois Lerner. Heck, she ran an entire team of female activists -- ALL were dedicated to The Cause.

The DOJ&#039;s attorney hires for Civil Rights are 100% Progressive Activists -- under the 0bamination.

The top players at the EPA are ALL True Believers... and yet Civil Service.

What we are seeing is the wholesale politicalization of the Civil Service ranks.

Nothing less.

When Trump declares Global Warming sounds like a hoax -- the EPA is aghast. It&#039;s their number one mission right now. 

Hence, the collective war on coal.

OM...

What world are you living in ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OM Says:<br />
May 17th, 2016 at 11:08 pm</p>
<p>Blert:</p>
<p>Do you actually know anyone who works for the “Feds,” one of the many alphabet agencies? I do, not all liberal or conservative, many apolitical. Have you worked professionally with any? I have.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>The minions that count are clones of Lois Lerner. Heck, she ran an entire team of female activists &#8212; ALL were dedicated to The Cause.</p>
<p>The DOJ&#8217;s attorney hires for Civil Rights are 100% Progressive Activists &#8212; under the 0bamination.</p>
<p>The top players at the EPA are ALL True Believers&#8230; and yet Civil Service.</p>
<p>What we are seeing is the wholesale politicalization of the Civil Service ranks.</p>
<p>Nothing less.</p>
<p>When Trump declares Global Warming sounds like a hoax &#8212; the EPA is aghast. It&#8217;s their number one mission right now. </p>
<p>Hence, the collective war on coal.</p>
<p>OM&#8230;</p>
<p>What world are you living in ?</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 05:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J.J....

I see that hustle already building.

Parker...

North Korea is owned by the PLA -- not the CCP.

Most primitive nations permit their armies to DIRECTLY own the productive assets of the nation.

Egypt
Pakistan
Red China 
North Korea
Iran ( see IRGC -- it&#039;s clone of the Nazi SS )
Algeria
USSR

and so forth.

In the case of North Korea, her economic needs are supplied by the PLA&#039;s economic arm. Yes, it&#039;s that huge.

Red China also runs a fantastic 80,000,000 soul slave empire -- aka its prison system.

You are paroled when you are physically broken.

It&#039;s this slave empire that makes the ultra low ball pricing so commonly seen in Red Chinese manufactures.

Even if the prison empire does not directly produce export goods ( it exports tons of stuff ) it establishes an ultra low cost structure for the rest of the economy. 

In this, it replicates the economics of the Antebellum Old South.

Even Whites that did not own Black slaves benefited by the overall macro-economics of slavery. The cost of generic goods produced was held to the floor. 

eg Stoop labor for the rail roads. It was so cheap that the Old South never was incentivized to get up to Northern standards. The extreme example being the seven different rail gauges that met in Atlanta. Countless thousands of Black slaves were misused hustling freight from one line to the next.

With Red China you&#039;ll find everything from penal gold mines on up. This always makes sense -- as the trapped prisoners can&#039;t smuggle any gold out, can&#039;t bitch about appalling working conditions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.J&#8230;.</p>
<p>I see that hustle already building.</p>
<p>Parker&#8230;</p>
<p>North Korea is owned by the PLA &#8212; not the CCP.</p>
<p>Most primitive nations permit their armies to DIRECTLY own the productive assets of the nation.</p>
<p>Egypt<br />
Pakistan<br />
Red China<br />
North Korea<br />
Iran ( see IRGC &#8212; it&#8217;s clone of the Nazi SS )<br />
Algeria<br />
USSR</p>
<p>and so forth.</p>
<p>In the case of North Korea, her economic needs are supplied by the PLA&#8217;s economic arm. Yes, it&#8217;s that huge.</p>
<p>Red China also runs a fantastic 80,000,000 soul slave empire &#8212; aka its prison system.</p>
<p>You are paroled when you are physically broken.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this slave empire that makes the ultra low ball pricing so commonly seen in Red Chinese manufactures.</p>
<p>Even if the prison empire does not directly produce export goods ( it exports tons of stuff ) it establishes an ultra low cost structure for the rest of the economy. </p>
<p>In this, it replicates the economics of the Antebellum Old South.</p>
<p>Even Whites that did not own Black slaves benefited by the overall macro-economics of slavery. The cost of generic goods produced was held to the floor. </p>
<p>eg Stoop labor for the rail roads. It was so cheap that the Old South never was incentivized to get up to Northern standards. The extreme example being the seven different rail gauges that met in Atlanta. Countless thousands of Black slaves were misused hustling freight from one line to the next.</p>
<p>With Red China you&#8217;ll find everything from penal gold mines on up. This always makes sense &#8212; as the trapped prisoners can&#8217;t smuggle any gold out, can&#8217;t bitch about appalling working conditions.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 04:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The old debate about whether Obama is fool or knave has been replaced with who is worse, Hillary or Trump.  

It makes for some interesting comments and debate. 

I&#039;ve decided, at least for now, that  Hillary is worse. The Donald may do something between now and November to change my mind. 

What&#039;s mare likely is that the dems will use the Goldwater gambit. &quot;Look he&#039;s insane! Can&#039;t let him anywhere near the nuclear button!&quot; Unfortunately, it will probably work. So all our debating will be just so many pixels under the bridge. Sigh!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old debate about whether Obama is fool or knave has been replaced with who is worse, Hillary or Trump.  </p>
<p>It makes for some interesting comments and debate. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve decided, at least for now, that  Hillary is worse. The Donald may do something between now and November to change my mind. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s mare likely is that the dems will use the Goldwater gambit. &#8220;Look he&#8217;s insane! Can&#8217;t let him anywhere near the nuclear button!&#8221; Unfortunately, it will probably work. So all our debating will be just so many pixels under the bridge. Sigh!</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 03:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I appreciate GB&#039;s wisdom and thank him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate GB&#8217;s wisdom and thank him.</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 03:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I appreciate GB&#039;s wisdom and thank him..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate GB&#8217;s wisdom and thank him..</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 03:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GB,

The peoples republic is not monolithic. NK is a leech Beijing can not afford in their present circumstances.  I suspect they would rather trade with a unified Korea goverened by Seoul.  Iran is easy. But first make an example of the KSA.  Once that is done all the rest go weak kneed.  All it takes is the will. Alas, that is lacking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB,</p>
<p>The peoples republic is not monolithic. NK is a leech Beijing can not afford in their present circumstances.  I suspect they would rather trade with a unified Korea goverened by Seoul.  Iran is easy. But first make an example of the KSA.  Once that is done all the rest go weak kneed.  All it takes is the will. Alas, that is lacking.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 03:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom,

It certainly has its risks. But risks become certainties, when predators detect weakness. Priorities as always are key, first rebuild the military, then get tough. Nukes offer no deterrent when your enemy is convinced you won&#039;t use them, that is until its too late. Obama has publicly stated that even in the case of a nuclear attack, retaliation is not necessarily on the table. BTW, I too remember the &#039;duck and cover&#039; days, I was a 14 yr old boy during the Cuban missile crisis living in the Ft Lauderdale area, just north of Miami. 

OM,
If I cared about your opinion, I&#039;d be hurt by your slander. Disagreeing with you, while opining that Trump is another Caesar, who may well end the republic is not the M.O. of a &quot;water carrier&quot;.

neo,

&lt;i&gt;&quot;they are meaning to say that he is so much of a loose cannon in terms of international relations, so unpredictable, and so out of his depth that it is a possible result of the chaotic world that might result from a Trump presidency.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

That is certainly a valid concern but it rests upon a questionable perspective. If China is set to get into a nuclear war over trade relations, it was coming anyway. If Putin is set to launch nukes at us because we shot down a plane buzzing one of our destroyers in international waters, (something that happened in the cold war) then he already plans to do so. In addition, Trump getting us into a nuclear war with either China or Russia presupposes that their leadership is as unstable, as those fearful of Trump suppose. Most tellingly, under Clinton this country will be so weakened as to make nuclear war, whether directly or through an EMP attack a predictable certainty. Predators smell fear and smell sickness.

parker,

I don&#039;t think that China would allow the N.K. leadership to be starved to death. Overland supply. Iran is more problematic in being able to resupply itself overland. Of course, once they grow nukes, the ballgame changes. And yes, the majority of the N.K. people long ago decided to live on their knees, rather than die on their feet. &quot;Give me liberty or give me death&quot; does not resonate with that populace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>It certainly has its risks. But risks become certainties, when predators detect weakness. Priorities as always are key, first rebuild the military, then get tough. Nukes offer no deterrent when your enemy is convinced you won&#8217;t use them, that is until its too late. Obama has publicly stated that even in the case of a nuclear attack, retaliation is not necessarily on the table. BTW, I too remember the &#8216;duck and cover&#8217; days, I was a 14 yr old boy during the Cuban missile crisis living in the Ft Lauderdale area, just north of Miami. </p>
<p>OM,<br />
If I cared about your opinion, I&#8217;d be hurt by your slander. Disagreeing with you, while opining that Trump is another Caesar, who may well end the republic is not the M.O. of a &#8220;water carrier&#8221;.</p>
<p>neo,</p>
<p><i>&#8220;they are meaning to say that he is so much of a loose cannon in terms of international relations, so unpredictable, and so out of his depth that it is a possible result of the chaotic world that might result from a Trump presidency.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>That is certainly a valid concern but it rests upon a questionable perspective. If China is set to get into a nuclear war over trade relations, it was coming anyway. If Putin is set to launch nukes at us because we shot down a plane buzzing one of our destroyers in international waters, (something that happened in the cold war) then he already plans to do so. In addition, Trump getting us into a nuclear war with either China or Russia presupposes that their leadership is as unstable, as those fearful of Trump suppose. Most tellingly, under Clinton this country will be so weakened as to make nuclear war, whether directly or through an EMP attack a predictable certainty. Predators smell fear and smell sickness.</p>
<p>parker,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that China would allow the N.K. leadership to be starved to death. Overland supply. Iran is more problematic in being able to resupply itself overland. Of course, once they grow nukes, the ballgame changes. And yes, the majority of the N.K. people long ago decided to live on their knees, rather than die on their feet. &#8220;Give me liberty or give me death&#8221; does not resonate with that populace.</p>
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