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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/16/renegade-breitbart-continues-its-fall/#comment-1175260</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2016 11:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s nothing silly about what Chuck wrote.  Neither he nor you nor I know what&#039;s in Trump&#039;s mind.  We don&#039;t know what Trump&#039;s aware of about the slogan &quot;America First&quot; or what he&#039;s ignorant of.  I will tell you this, however: 

(1) If you Google &quot;America First&quot; the reference to WWII comes up right away.  Do you not think that a candidate, when choosing a slogan, Googles it to find out if anyone else is using it or has used it?  As far as I know, it&#039;s standard procedure to do so.  As I said, we don&#039;t know whether Trump knew the history of the expression, but it would be logical to think he did, or someone among his entourage and advisors did.

(2) It is a fact that---whether Trump is personally simpatico with them or not (and I don&#039;t think he is)---he has a strong following among neo-Nazis and white supremacists.  He has been rather cagey and coy with that group---not embracing them outright, but often refusing to completely or strongly condemn them or disavow them.  Now, you are probably correct that most Americans are unaware of the history of &quot;America First,&quot; but one group that probably &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; aware of the history is this particular subset of Trump supporters, and they would be &lt;i&gt;delighted&lt;/i&gt; at the slogan.  So if it was chosen with any awareness of its history (certainly a possibility), it would have particular appeal to this segment of Trump supporters.

As I said, neither I nor you nor Chuck knows what&#039;s actually in Trump&#039;s mind here.  But there is nothing whatsoever about what Chuck alleged that&#039;s silly.  To quote him:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Every neo-Nazi, white supremacist knows the significance of the term. That it has a double meaning is perfect for Trump. He’s a master at the “what, not me, I wasn’t referring to THAT when I used the term” evasion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All likely to be true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing silly about what Chuck wrote.  Neither he nor you nor I know what&#8217;s in Trump&#8217;s mind.  We don&#8217;t know what Trump&#8217;s aware of about the slogan &#8220;America First&#8221; or what he&#8217;s ignorant of.  I will tell you this, however: </p>
<p>(1) If you Google &#8220;America First&#8221; the reference to WWII comes up right away.  Do you not think that a candidate, when choosing a slogan, Googles it to find out if anyone else is using it or has used it?  As far as I know, it&#8217;s standard procedure to do so.  As I said, we don&#8217;t know whether Trump knew the history of the expression, but it would be logical to think he did, or someone among his entourage and advisors did.</p>
<p>(2) It is a fact that&#8212;whether Trump is personally simpatico with them or not (and I don&#8217;t think he is)&#8212;he has a strong following among neo-Nazis and white supremacists.  He has been rather cagey and coy with that group&#8212;not embracing them outright, but often refusing to completely or strongly condemn them or disavow them.  Now, you are probably correct that most Americans are unaware of the history of &#8220;America First,&#8221; but one group that probably <i>is</i> aware of the history is this particular subset of Trump supporters, and they would be <i>delighted</i> at the slogan.  So if it was chosen with any awareness of its history (certainly a possibility), it would have particular appeal to this segment of Trump supporters.</p>
<p>As I said, neither I nor you nor Chuck knows what&#8217;s actually in Trump&#8217;s mind here.  But there is nothing whatsoever about what Chuck alleged that&#8217;s silly.  To quote him:</p>
<blockquote><p>Every neo-Nazi, white supremacist knows the significance of the term. That it has a double meaning is perfect for Trump. He’s a master at the “what, not me, I wasn’t referring to THAT when I used the term” evasion.</p></blockquote>
<p>All likely to be true.</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beverly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2016 07:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t be silly, Chuck.

Trump isn&#039;t using &quot;America First&quot; as an arcane reference to a war that over 90% of Americans (sadly) know almost nothing about -- it would be lost on them, even if he were a Nazi, which is just ridiculous. Tacky and overbearing, yah, but not a Nazi, for crying out loud.

&quot;America First&quot; is, simply, the antidote to the &quot;America Last, America Worst!&quot; garbage we&#039;ve been getting for years on end from our internal enemies. It&#039;s really quite simple, actually.

Another point that bears repeating is that the Powers That Be are all lined up against Trump -- but they&#039;re quite ready to carry Hildabeast&#039;s cathedral-length train.

Petulance isn&#039;t a game plan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be silly, Chuck.</p>
<p>Trump isn&#8217;t using &#8220;America First&#8221; as an arcane reference to a war that over 90% of Americans (sadly) know almost nothing about &#8212; it would be lost on them, even if he were a Nazi, which is just ridiculous. Tacky and overbearing, yah, but not a Nazi, for crying out loud.</p>
<p>&#8220;America First&#8221; is, simply, the antidote to the &#8220;America Last, America Worst!&#8221; garbage we&#8217;ve been getting for years on end from our internal enemies. It&#8217;s really quite simple, actually.</p>
<p>Another point that bears repeating is that the Powers That Be are all lined up against Trump &#8212; but they&#8217;re quite ready to carry Hildabeast&#8217;s cathedral-length train.</p>
<p>Petulance isn&#8217;t a game plan.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/16/renegade-breitbart-continues-its-fall/#comment-1171913</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 01:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those who give a President their power, will be held to account for the way that power is used.

Unless people think there&#039;s some kind of Faustian loophole they can use to get out of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who give a President their power, will be held to account for the way that power is used.</p>
<p>Unless people think there&#8217;s some kind of Faustian loophole they can use to get out of it.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2016 18:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[parker:

Donald Trump is a crass, crude, vulgar, arrogant, narcissistic, infantile, ill-informed assh*le.

and compared to Hillary, he&#039;s a saint.

Simple as that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parker:</p>
<p>Donald Trump is a crass, crude, vulgar, arrogant, narcissistic, infantile, ill-informed assh*le.</p>
<p>and compared to Hillary, he&#8217;s a saint.</p>
<p>Simple as that.</p>
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		By: junior		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2016 16:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In fairness to Lindbergh, once the US finally entered the war, Lindbergh served as a volunteer civilian consultant (Roosevelt refused to let him back into the military), flying combat missions in the Pacific in an &quot;advisory&quot; role, and assisting US aviators in learning to better handle their aircraft.

But before Pearl Harbor, yeah...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fairness to Lindbergh, once the US finally entered the war, Lindbergh served as a volunteer civilian consultant (Roosevelt refused to let him back into the military), flying combat missions in the Pacific in an &#8220;advisory&#8221; role, and assisting US aviators in learning to better handle their aircraft.</p>
<p>But before Pearl Harbor, yeah&#8230;</p>
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		By: The Other Chuck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Other Chuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2016 14:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Juli:
The dog whistle of &quot;America First&quot; is historical. It was the name of a movement prior to WW2 that sought to keep the U.S. neutral. One of the leaders of this group, Charles Lindbergh, was an admirer of Hitler and the Nazis,  was a friend of Hermann Goering who escorted him as a special guest to the 1936 Berlin Olympics, received a medal from the Nazi government, and had planned to move to Berlin shortly before the start of the war in 1938. As one of the most prominent leaders of the America First Committee, he allowed himself to become a tool of the Nazi war machine, which he greatly admired.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/lindbergh/sfeature/fallen.html

Every neo-Nazi, white supremacist knows the significance of the term. That it has a double meaning is perfect for Trump. He&#039;s a master at the &quot;what, not me, I wasn&#039;t referring to THAT when I used the term&quot; evasion.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juli:<br />
The dog whistle of &#8220;America First&#8221; is historical. It was the name of a movement prior to WW2 that sought to keep the U.S. neutral. One of the leaders of this group, Charles Lindbergh, was an admirer of Hitler and the Nazis,  was a friend of Hermann Goering who escorted him as a special guest to the 1936 Berlin Olympics, received a medal from the Nazi government, and had planned to move to Berlin shortly before the start of the war in 1938. As one of the most prominent leaders of the America First Committee, he allowed himself to become a tool of the Nazi war machine, which he greatly admired.<br />
<a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/lindbergh/sfeature/fallen.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/lindbergh/sfeature/fallen.html</a></p>
<p>Every neo-Nazi, white supremacist knows the significance of the term. That it has a double meaning is perfect for Trump. He&#8217;s a master at the &#8220;what, not me, I wasn&#8217;t referring to THAT when I used the term&#8221; evasion.<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee</a></p>
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		By: Juli		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/16/renegade-breitbart-continues-its-fall/#comment-1170601</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2016 13:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Other Chuck, I wish to take issue with your reference to &#039;America First&#039; as a dog whistle.  I believe in America First.  The Dems seem to think in terms of &#039;America Who? What?&#039;  

In other words - America dead last.  

I think we need to place the concerns for our country and fellow citizens (even the TWANLOC among us) as one of the highest goods.  If this attracts haters, so be it, but the idea is important nonetheless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Other Chuck, I wish to take issue with your reference to &#8216;America First&#8217; as a dog whistle.  I believe in America First.  The Dems seem to think in terms of &#8216;America Who? What?&#8217;  </p>
<p>In other words &#8211; America dead last.  </p>
<p>I think we need to place the concerns for our country and fellow citizens (even the TWANLOC among us) as one of the highest goods.  If this attracts haters, so be it, but the idea is important nonetheless.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2016 12:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Various places have noted the Boston Globe&#039;s sudden concern with unchecked executive power.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Various places have noted the Boston Globe&#8217;s sudden concern with unchecked executive power.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2016 04:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard,

Door number 3; plus in over his hair and surprised to be on the cusp of nomination. I will admit I started out thinking door number 1, but now door 3 seems more likely. Not that it matters. I come from the salt of the earth; people who do the heavy lifting, people who produce the food on everyone&#039;s table. I have no need to apologize. And, I will not vote for djt.

Kindly, if you rationalize voting for the donald in November, it is you who needs to &quot;get your story straight&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>Door number 3; plus in over his hair and surprised to be on the cusp of nomination. I will admit I started out thinking door number 1, but now door 3 seems more likely. Not that it matters. I come from the salt of the earth; people who do the heavy lifting, people who produce the food on everyone&#8217;s table. I have no need to apologize. And, I will not vote for djt.</p>
<p>Kindly, if you rationalize voting for the donald in November, it is you who needs to &#8220;get your story straight&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/16/renegade-breitbart-continues-its-fall/#comment-1169395</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2016 02:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So is Trump a plant to win the election for Hillary or a totalitarian in a nice suit who wants to be der Fuehrer?  Or is he a guy who can&#039;t be trusted because he has no real positions whatsoever?  Would you NeverTrumpers please get your stories straight?!

And going to the New York Times and the Boston Globe to get pseudo-psychological diagnoses of Trump and then talk about &quot;conservatives abandoning their principles&quot; is actually laughable.

&quot;Republican circular firing squad! Ready!  Aim! . . .&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is Trump a plant to win the election for Hillary or a totalitarian in a nice suit who wants to be der Fuehrer?  Or is he a guy who can&#8217;t be trusted because he has no real positions whatsoever?  Would you NeverTrumpers please get your stories straight?!</p>
<p>And going to the New York Times and the Boston Globe to get pseudo-psychological diagnoses of Trump and then talk about &#8220;conservatives abandoning their principles&#8221; is actually laughable.</p>
<p>&#8220;Republican circular firing squad! Ready!  Aim! . . .&#8221;</p>
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