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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/05/the-history-of-the-us-primary-system/#comment-1139374</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[The reason why people believe Nixon was corrupt is the same reason people believe Lerner and Hillary are innocent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why people believe Nixon was corrupt is the same reason people believe Lerner and Hillary are innocent.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/05/the-history-of-the-us-primary-system/#comment-1135178</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 19:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FOAF Says:
May 6th, 2016 at 3:23 am

As neo indicates the rise of primaries was a long-term trend that predated Nixon. As for Nixon, yes he was nominated five times. He won four times and barely lost the fifth (1960 vs. Kennedy).

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With time -- and death bed admissions -- we now know that he won the 1960 election.

It was stolen from him by the MOB -- ie the Chicago Mafia.

The gal who bagged the money -- flatly admitted it.

Then she died.

Then, moments after Kennedy&#039;s victory, Frank Marshall Davis celebrated the defeat of his arch enemy RMN -- by knocking up Anne Dunham -- and giving America today&#039;s president.

Look at the calendar.

Barry Setoro HAD to be conceived ELECTION NIGHT to be born August 4, 1961.

 Obama, Sr. was not even in sight.

Both men would&#039;ve been denied a marriage license: bigamy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOAF Says:<br />
May 6th, 2016 at 3:23 am</p>
<p>As neo indicates the rise of primaries was a long-term trend that predated Nixon. As for Nixon, yes he was nominated five times. He won four times and barely lost the fifth (1960 vs. Kennedy).</p>
<p>%%%%</p>
<p>With time &#8212; and death bed admissions &#8212; we now know that he won the 1960 election.</p>
<p>It was stolen from him by the MOB &#8212; ie the Chicago Mafia.</p>
<p>The gal who bagged the money &#8212; flatly admitted it.</p>
<p>Then she died.</p>
<p>Then, moments after Kennedy&#8217;s victory, Frank Marshall Davis celebrated the defeat of his arch enemy RMN &#8212; by knocking up Anne Dunham &#8212; and giving America today&#8217;s president.</p>
<p>Look at the calendar.</p>
<p>Barry Setoro HAD to be conceived ELECTION NIGHT to be born August 4, 1961.</p>
<p> Obama, Sr. was not even in sight.</p>
<p>Both men would&#8217;ve been denied a marriage license: bigamy.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/05/the-history-of-the-us-primary-system/#comment-1133998</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 12:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wooly Bully:

Oh, I agree with you that they &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; do that.  But I don&#039;t think they will.  The same lack of courage that they have showed in fighting the Democrats will show in their inability to fight for themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wooly Bully:</p>
<p>Oh, I agree with you that they <i>should</i> do that.  But I don&#8217;t think they will.  The same lack of courage that they have showed in fighting the Democrats will show in their inability to fight for themselves.</p>
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		By: Wooly Bully		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/05/05/the-history-of-the-us-primary-system/#comment-1133977</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 12:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, I agree that a lot of damage is already done, but the Republicans need to stop the bleeding.  The only alternative I can see for the party is for Trump to lose in a landslide, which probably isn&#039;t likely.  If that happened, I assume that the Republicans would reform the nomination process.  If Trump is nominated and actually wins the presidency, then it&#039;s his party.  But it won&#039;t be mine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, I agree that a lot of damage is already done, but the Republicans need to stop the bleeding.  The only alternative I can see for the party is for Trump to lose in a landslide, which probably isn&#8217;t likely.  If that happened, I assume that the Republicans would reform the nomination process.  If Trump is nominated and actually wins the presidency, then it&#8217;s his party.  But it won&#8217;t be mine.</p>
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		By: Jerryskids		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 08:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, the idea that the &quot;unlikeable and corrupt&quot; Nixon still somehow managed to pull off the largest Presidential landslide in American history should give you pause to wonder if maybe there wasn&#039;t something a little off with that analysis. Nixon didn&#039;t become universally despised until some time later after the historians got done writing their versions of history and now it&#039;s just a known fact that nobody ever liked the guy and nobody I know ever voted for him. It says so right in the history books.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the idea that the &#8220;unlikeable and corrupt&#8221; Nixon still somehow managed to pull off the largest Presidential landslide in American history should give you pause to wonder if maybe there wasn&#8217;t something a little off with that analysis. Nixon didn&#8217;t become universally despised until some time later after the historians got done writing their versions of history and now it&#8217;s just a known fact that nobody ever liked the guy and nobody I know ever voted for him. It says so right in the history books.</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 07:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As neo indicates the rise of primaries was a long-term trend that predated Nixon.  As for Nixon, yes he was nominated five times.  He won four times and barely lost the fifth (1960 vs. Kennedy).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As neo indicates the rise of primaries was a long-term trend that predated Nixon.  As for Nixon, yes he was nominated five times.  He won four times and barely lost the fifth (1960 vs. Kennedy).</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 00:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[snopercod:

You&#039;re welcome.

I think I had a draft of a post like this years ago, but (as with many drafts) I never found the right time to publish it, and it&#039;s buried somewhere amidst &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2016/04/14/clearing-the-underbrush-on-the-blog/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;all the other drafts&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>snopercod:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome.</p>
<p>I think I had a draft of a post like this years ago, but (as with many drafts) I never found the right time to publish it, and it&#8217;s buried somewhere amidst <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2016/04/14/clearing-the-underbrush-on-the-blog/" rel="nofollow">all the other drafts</a>.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 00:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wooly Bully:

I agree with you entirely, except for one thing (and it&#039;s a big thing)---it&#039;s already too late.  Not that they couldn&#039;t do what you say.  They could.  But if they do, a lot of people will reject them, even people who don&#039;t like Trump.

The problem occurred a long time ago, and the problem is (for want of a better term) populism.  Or pure democracy. Or whatever you call the idea that representatives are no good and the people should have a direct say without the middlemen/women.  

That idea has been developing with greater and greater force since some time in the 1800s; Andrew Jackson was an early effect.  It&#039;s been building and building.  The Founders were afraid of someone like Trump, and with good reason.  Populist demagogue.  That&#039;s why they had the Senate appointed, only let property holders vote, etc.

But I still agree with you that the RNC should negate Trump. But it won&#039;t matter; they&#039;re in big big trouble anyway.

And the people who are angry at the GOP members of Congress who they feel betrayed them would have been angry no matter what.  I really believe that.  Some of the anger is justified, but the remedy is better people in government,  not the big middle finger that Trump represents.  There are plenty of decent people in Congress trying---albeit imperfectly---to do what the people want (Cruz was one, but they rejected him cause they didn&#039;t like his nose or his voice or some such).  I feel a lot of the anger is over-the-top, drummed up by talk show hosts and pundits full of themselves and the sounds of the own voices, drunk on their increasing ratings and the building ire of their fans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wooly Bully:</p>
<p>I agree with you entirely, except for one thing (and it&#8217;s a big thing)&#8212;it&#8217;s already too late.  Not that they couldn&#8217;t do what you say.  They could.  But if they do, a lot of people will reject them, even people who don&#8217;t like Trump.</p>
<p>The problem occurred a long time ago, and the problem is (for want of a better term) populism.  Or pure democracy. Or whatever you call the idea that representatives are no good and the people should have a direct say without the middlemen/women.  </p>
<p>That idea has been developing with greater and greater force since some time in the 1800s; Andrew Jackson was an early effect.  It&#8217;s been building and building.  The Founders were afraid of someone like Trump, and with good reason.  Populist demagogue.  That&#8217;s why they had the Senate appointed, only let property holders vote, etc.</p>
<p>But I still agree with you that the RNC should negate Trump. But it won&#8217;t matter; they&#8217;re in big big trouble anyway.</p>
<p>And the people who are angry at the GOP members of Congress who they feel betrayed them would have been angry no matter what.  I really believe that.  Some of the anger is justified, but the remedy is better people in government,  not the big middle finger that Trump represents.  There are plenty of decent people in Congress trying&#8212;albeit imperfectly&#8212;to do what the people want (Cruz was one, but they rejected him cause they didn&#8217;t like his nose or his voice or some such).  I feel a lot of the anger is over-the-top, drummed up by talk show hosts and pundits full of themselves and the sounds of the own voices, drunk on their increasing ratings and the building ire of their fans.</p>
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		By: snopercod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2016 00:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Finally! Amid all the hyperventilating about &quot;stealing delegates&quot;, someone has finally published the history. Thank you, Neo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally! Amid all the hyperventilating about &#8220;stealing delegates&#8221;, someone has finally published the history. Thank you, Neo.</p>
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		By: Wooly Bully		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wooly Bully]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2016 23:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is the primary reason--no pun intended--that  the Republican convention could and should reject Trump.  The purpose of the convention was originally to choose the candidate, not to rubber stamp for four or five days on TV what was already a done deal in the primaries.  The Republicans need to reform their system by returning to a real convention to prevent carpetbaggers like Trump from hijacking the party.  Also, they must do it this year, because if Trump is nominated it will be too late.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the primary reason&#8211;no pun intended&#8211;that  the Republican convention could and should reject Trump.  The purpose of the convention was originally to choose the candidate, not to rubber stamp for four or five days on TV what was already a done deal in the primaries.  The Republicans need to reform their system by returning to a real convention to prevent carpetbaggers like Trump from hijacking the party.  Also, they must do it this year, because if Trump is nominated it will be too late.</p>
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