In WWII carpet bombing effected everyone. When a factory was targeted often an entire city could be leveled to achieve that objective. Obviously causing great pain and upheaval in that society.

Now imagine you are citizen of say Iraq. The Americans have come to in and begun to bomb your country to try eliminate the ISIS threat. We specifically try to limit casualties. You know that unless you are directly involved with terrorists. The odds of you being killed or even hurt are relatively small.

You also know that the terrorists have long memories and are highly vindictive. And that the Americans since the 60’s have proven extremely fickle and unreliable. Since your immediate safety is relatively high your best bet is to hedge your bets and play things down the middle. Even if you disagree with ISIS. You know the Americans have a limited attention span. And there are fewer consequences (like an entire city being destroyed) forcing your hand in the matter.

Now I am not saying I am advocating carpet bombing as an alternative to smart bombing. But I believe it had greatly changed both the calculus and politics of waging war. In ways we do not readily acknowledge. Or in some cases even realize.

I agree. The non-Muslim world has to stand up and point out the facts. That we cannot coexist with an intolerant religion. That the Salafi/Wahhabi version of Islam requires conversion or killing of all infidels. Point that out and swear that it will never happen. Do not coddle them. Continually point out how their religious tenets are incompatible with freedom of religion and separation of church and state. We have to face them down on the facts, and as necessary, on the battlefield as well.

A first step is to stop all entry from nations where islam is the dominant religion. Secondly, all who enter from elsewhere, who do not hold a US passport, need to be sequestered and throughly vetted. Yes, it means a severe disruption to international travel, but so be it. However, abandoning the Constitution, aka the rule of law, is not acceptable.

Such co-operation from ‘moderates’ is fleeting and rare.

The only instance I can recall was during the Surge in Iraq.

No Western power ever reports getting support at any time from co-located Muslims — instead — non-co-operation is the universal norm.

This makes sense when you realize that the imams are KSA ‘imports’ in about 80% of American mosques.

I presume that the rest are Shia.

Islamic ‘culture’ is totalitarian and wholly invasive.

Hence, no-one crosses the line.

Tips just don’t come in.

Period.

So, what I want to hear most about Islam and Muslims is “Tango down!”

When Somalis were farming — they weren’t pirating.

“All Germans were not Nazis, but all Muslims are Muslims. The seed is always there. Which is why the US now has its own “home-grown” jihadis”

Very good. Well stated.

Neo’s analogy fails because German is an ethnic group while Islam is an ideology.

Islam is vulnerable on many levels and could be easily eradicated or attenuated in Western Countries if those Western Countries were not controlled by leftists who are eager provide Islam with conditions which promote the spread and ultimate triumph of Islam over Western Civilization.

How does one make peace with a hostile, murderous opposing force? By not attacking the non-combatants in the rear, the quartermasters and other entities that supply and support the fighting men? By compromise?
I think not. No way to fight a war to win.

All Germans were not Nazis, but all Muslims are Muslims. The seed is always there. Which is why the US now has its own “home-grown” jihadis.

From TheReligionofPeace.com, which keeps score:

“During this time period [calendar 2015], there were 2858 Islamic attacks in 53 countries, in which 27588 people were killed and 26136 injured.”

That is a lot of ‘hoods to police. One might conclude it is too many.

I know your proposals address the here and now in the USA. But, a big but, Muslims come from everywhere to the USA every day, as Trump rightly observes.

One cannot prevent spread of this sinister malevolent-potential contagion except by isolation and eradication. Anti-biotics (“bios” means life in Greek) are the only apparent answer for this evil infectious ideology that its adherents and we both pretend is a religion.

Barry Soetoro has just about Cloward-Piven’d the Hell out of our Welfare State.

As Milton Friedman well said:

You can’t have open borders AND a welfare state.

Further, the folks that are coming in this flood are sure to pull the economy backwards.

Indeed, if Europe’s experience is any guide ( it is ) we can figure that immigrating Muslims will be on the dole in perpetuity.

The average IQ of Muslims — native born in Denmark — has proved to be lower than their parents. !!

What’s going on: regression to the mean.

Their parents were above average in smarts. Whereas the kids drop right back to the IQ median seen in the Old Country.

In which case, it’s ~ 79.

This staggering gap explains why Denmark can’t get Muslim kids to learn at the same tempo as the natives. ( IQ ~101 )

Indeed, the vast majority of these hopeful Muslims can’t read or write — in any language.

Considering the way that Muslims stiff girls — and their education — and throw in civil strife — ’tis a wonder that they have any education at all.

Should we provide exceptions for Christian Syrians — that slot will be gamed by Muslims… fer sure.

It would be better if the Syrian Christians were re-located to Turkey… and we kicked in some cash to tide them over.

No devout fanatics would game the system to gain entry to Turkey. They can do that right now.

It’s much more practical all the way around.