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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/24/the-blogosphere-and-trump-commenters/#comment-1030828</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Cuckservatives&quot; is one of those words that&#039;s a &quot;tell&quot; that the person is using the activist lexicon of the day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cuckservatives&#8221; is one of those words that&#8217;s a &#8220;tell&#8221; that the person is using the activist lexicon of the day.</p>
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		By: OM		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/24/the-blogosphere-and-trump-commenters/#comment-1030486</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SillyConWrecks:

&quot;And there isn’t a conservative in the entire 2015-16 GOP field. There are only degrees of cuckservatives.&quot;

Readers Digest version - &quot;I hate them all. I even hate Donald.&quot;   The field started at 17 but to SCW they are all the same and all defective, not pure enough for a Paleocon.  Burn your own house down first.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SillyConWrecks:</p>
<p>&#8220;And there isn’t a conservative in the entire 2015-16 GOP field. There are only degrees of cuckservatives.&#8221;</p>
<p>Readers Digest version &#8211; &#8220;I hate them all. I even hate Donald.&#8221;   The field started at 17 but to SCW they are all the same and all defective, not pure enough for a Paleocon.  Burn your own house down first.</p>
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		By: peggy coffey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/24/the-blogosphere-and-trump-commenters/#comment-1025493</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a Trump supporter simply because I want the GOPe to burn. And because it seems to make the rest of you crazy. I have been called so many things on so many blogs by people that don&#039;t know me, that I really don&#039;t care what happens anymore. I will never vote for Hill and had originally started out a Cruz supporter, but Trump seems to bring out the crazy in everyone. I like it that he doesn&#039;t care one bit what anyone says about him and will tear Hill to shreds without batting an eye. We need Attila the Hun, not Bambi to run this country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Trump supporter simply because I want the GOPe to burn. And because it seems to make the rest of you crazy. I have been called so many things on so many blogs by people that don&#8217;t know me, that I really don&#8217;t care what happens anymore. I will never vote for Hill and had originally started out a Cruz supporter, but Trump seems to bring out the crazy in everyone. I like it that he doesn&#8217;t care one bit what anyone says about him and will tear Hill to shreds without batting an eye. We need Attila the Hun, not Bambi to run this country.</p>
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		By: JLawson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/24/the-blogosphere-and-trump-commenters/#comment-1025342</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2016 13:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To be honest, I&#039;m sick of the GOPe.  Shortly after 9/11, when the brief time where D&#038;R actually figured out that the enemy was NOT the other political party, they&#039;ve been rolling over at every D criticism.  When Bush needed party support, they looked the other way for the most part.

When the D&#039;s got control of the House and Senate in 2006 and instituted policies that were going to cause problems, they didn&#039;t fight them.  All the D&#039;s had to do was go &quot;This is going to be good for the disadvantaged&quot;, and they just rolled. 

When McCain chose Palin, I thought... &quot;Hey, maybe they&#039;re getting a clue, that they&#039;ve got to engage the people outside the Beltway.&quot;  But when she proved more popular than he was with the folks in flyover country, and the media started ripping her for being &#039;Not our kind&#039; (since she was from outside the Beltway and not ashamed of it) - they caved fast and sidelined her.  If they&#039;d given her the same sort of support and shielding that the Democrats gave Obama, we&#039;d be in the 4th year of the McCain presidency.  But it seemed like they were playing to lose - putting out enough effort to look like they were trying, but not enough to actually win.

After that, they didn&#039;t dare object to what Obama wanted to do because they feared the media&#039;s smear of &#039;Racism&#039;.  I&#039;m honestly surprised they stood solid against Obamacare.  

Then Romney came along in 2012.  You&#039;d have thought they&#039;d have learned from 2008 - but in the end we were left with a candidate the media did their utter best to tear down, and the GOP&#039;s defense (again, from flyover country) was half-hearted at best.  Seriously, didn&#039;t they WANT to win?

In 2014 the Republicans FINALLY got a majority in the House and Senate.  How have they used that majority?  Have they pruned anything about Obamacare?  Have they increased security on our borders?  Not visibly - they seem to still be thinking &quot;We&#039;re powerless, and have to be liked inside the Beltway.&quot;  As Richard Saunders said, sending bill after bill to the President to be vetoed would have been theatrics - but it would have been evidence they were TRYING to do something.

What&#039;s the phrase from the &#039;90s?  &quot;Silence=Consent&#039;?  They&#039;ve been silent.  Yes, playing to the cheap seats is important also.

Now they seem to be trying to... hamstring the candidates who have actually gotten traction in flyover country.  This tells me - someone outside the Beltway or the Coasts - that they&#039;re not particularly interested in actually fielding an effective President.  They want a figurehead that can lose gracefully, absolving them of responsibility for governance.  Because actually doing something, making decisions that affect the country and the world is scary, and brings the risk of Democrat and media dislike.

And they&#039;d cut off their own electorate rather than risk that. 

I&#039;m no Trumpkin, Trumper, or whatever the day&#039;s fashionable slur is for a Trump supporter.  I&#039;d much prefer Cruz - but I&#039;ll vote for Trump.  

Why?

Because in my opinion DC&#039;s rapidly turning into the Capital City from the Hunger Games - a self-absorbed community filled with posturing and preening &#039;elite&#039; who have little to no regard for the people outside the Beltway circle of politicians and high-rolling donors, and even less regard for how the lofty pronouncements which are supposed to &#039;benefit&#039; them actually affect them.  They&#039;re oblivious to how the country sees them, and there&#039;s no realistic way to get through their egos.  If the dismal poll numbers on how people see Congress isn&#039;t sufficient, what would be?

Getting someone in who doesn&#039;t care about the media, who doesn&#039;t visibly care about being liked by the Democrats and the whole DC elite crowd is a start.  But keeping the same attitudes and thought processes that our current &#039;elite&#039; show isn&#039;t going to change things for the better.

Your mileage, of course, may vary.  But there&#039;s something badly, badly wrong with the system when someone like Hillary and Bernie are seen as the best one of our political parties has to offer as a Presidential candidate.  

And I don&#039;t know about you, but I&#039;d prefer to see the Hunger Games dystopia locked away in fiction - not played out in reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I&#8217;m sick of the GOPe.  Shortly after 9/11, when the brief time where D&amp;R actually figured out that the enemy was NOT the other political party, they&#8217;ve been rolling over at every D criticism.  When Bush needed party support, they looked the other way for the most part.</p>
<p>When the D&#8217;s got control of the House and Senate in 2006 and instituted policies that were going to cause problems, they didn&#8217;t fight them.  All the D&#8217;s had to do was go &#8220;This is going to be good for the disadvantaged&#8221;, and they just rolled. </p>
<p>When McCain chose Palin, I thought&#8230; &#8220;Hey, maybe they&#8217;re getting a clue, that they&#8217;ve got to engage the people outside the Beltway.&#8221;  But when she proved more popular than he was with the folks in flyover country, and the media started ripping her for being &#8216;Not our kind&#8217; (since she was from outside the Beltway and not ashamed of it) &#8211; they caved fast and sidelined her.  If they&#8217;d given her the same sort of support and shielding that the Democrats gave Obama, we&#8217;d be in the 4th year of the McCain presidency.  But it seemed like they were playing to lose &#8211; putting out enough effort to look like they were trying, but not enough to actually win.</p>
<p>After that, they didn&#8217;t dare object to what Obama wanted to do because they feared the media&#8217;s smear of &#8216;Racism&#8217;.  I&#8217;m honestly surprised they stood solid against Obamacare.  </p>
<p>Then Romney came along in 2012.  You&#8217;d have thought they&#8217;d have learned from 2008 &#8211; but in the end we were left with a candidate the media did their utter best to tear down, and the GOP&#8217;s defense (again, from flyover country) was half-hearted at best.  Seriously, didn&#8217;t they WANT to win?</p>
<p>In 2014 the Republicans FINALLY got a majority in the House and Senate.  How have they used that majority?  Have they pruned anything about Obamacare?  Have they increased security on our borders?  Not visibly &#8211; they seem to still be thinking &#8220;We&#8217;re powerless, and have to be liked inside the Beltway.&#8221;  As Richard Saunders said, sending bill after bill to the President to be vetoed would have been theatrics &#8211; but it would have been evidence they were TRYING to do something.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the phrase from the &#8217;90s?  &#8220;Silence=Consent&#8217;?  They&#8217;ve been silent.  Yes, playing to the cheap seats is important also.</p>
<p>Now they seem to be trying to&#8230; hamstring the candidates who have actually gotten traction in flyover country.  This tells me &#8211; someone outside the Beltway or the Coasts &#8211; that they&#8217;re not particularly interested in actually fielding an effective President.  They want a figurehead that can lose gracefully, absolving them of responsibility for governance.  Because actually doing something, making decisions that affect the country and the world is scary, and brings the risk of Democrat and media dislike.</p>
<p>And they&#8217;d cut off their own electorate rather than risk that. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m no Trumpkin, Trumper, or whatever the day&#8217;s fashionable slur is for a Trump supporter.  I&#8217;d much prefer Cruz &#8211; but I&#8217;ll vote for Trump.  </p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because in my opinion DC&#8217;s rapidly turning into the Capital City from the Hunger Games &#8211; a self-absorbed community filled with posturing and preening &#8216;elite&#8217; who have little to no regard for the people outside the Beltway circle of politicians and high-rolling donors, and even less regard for how the lofty pronouncements which are supposed to &#8216;benefit&#8217; them actually affect them.  They&#8217;re oblivious to how the country sees them, and there&#8217;s no realistic way to get through their egos.  If the dismal poll numbers on how people see Congress isn&#8217;t sufficient, what would be?</p>
<p>Getting someone in who doesn&#8217;t care about the media, who doesn&#8217;t visibly care about being liked by the Democrats and the whole DC elite crowd is a start.  But keeping the same attitudes and thought processes that our current &#8216;elite&#8217; show isn&#8217;t going to change things for the better.</p>
<p>Your mileage, of course, may vary.  But there&#8217;s something badly, badly wrong with the system when someone like Hillary and Bernie are seen as the best one of our political parties has to offer as a Presidential candidate.  </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t know about you, but I&#8217;d prefer to see the Hunger Games dystopia locked away in fiction &#8211; not played out in reality.</p>
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		By: JurassiCon Rex		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/24/the-blogosphere-and-trump-commenters/#comment-1025225</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JurassiCon Rex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2016 12:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As anger is to the betrayed so too are fantasies to the Rollory responders. 

&lt;i&gt;no evidence as to the depravity of the other candidates, no understanding of the effect of a three-branch government, or of the effect of the MSM, the educational system, or the bureaucracy… … come up with a way to channel all that anger into supporting an electable, conservative, non-asshole candidate.&lt;/i&gt;

No understanding of a three branch government! What three- branch government? The Executive - which does what it pleases as a &quot;conservative&quot; Congress appeases and speechifies (Paul Ryan call your writers), as SCOTUS legislates in lieu of judging Constitutionality (Roe v Wade and ACA most dramatically). No understanding - what utter nonsense.

Supporting and electable, conservative, non-asshole candidate. Who for instance? Let us count the “conservative&quot; non-assholes. There was Romney (not conservative), McCain (asshole), Bush (conservative only when compared to Obama who’d smashed all of Bush’s non-conservative records — spending and war), Dole. And there isn’t a conservative in the entire 2015-16 GOP field. There are only degrees of cuckservatives.

Bludgeon the Tea Party* — get Trump. Bludgeon Trump = get ?  Cause and effect can’t possibly be lost on “conservative&quot; minds… …can it? All this time I believed the inability to connect the dots was symptomatic of the Liberal/Progressive/Leftist mindset. How does one not conclude cuckservatives, i.e.,  NeoCons, are not fifth columnists who’ve hijacked the Party and had their way with the canons, platforms, and planks. Reactionaries unite. Counter-Revolution!

*Of all people, Democrat Pat Cadell came to the defense of the Tea Party as it was being assaulted by Cuckservatives and NeoCons or whatever name they go by - I prefer sons-a-bitches.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As anger is to the betrayed so too are fantasies to the Rollory responders. </p>
<p><i>no evidence as to the depravity of the other candidates, no understanding of the effect of a three-branch government, or of the effect of the MSM, the educational system, or the bureaucracy… … come up with a way to channel all that anger into supporting an electable, conservative, non-asshole candidate.</i></p>
<p>No understanding of a three branch government! What three- branch government? The Executive &#8211; which does what it pleases as a &#8220;conservative&#8221; Congress appeases and speechifies (Paul Ryan call your writers), as SCOTUS legislates in lieu of judging Constitutionality (Roe v Wade and ACA most dramatically). No understanding &#8211; what utter nonsense.</p>
<p>Supporting and electable, conservative, non-asshole candidate. Who for instance? Let us count the “conservative&#8221; non-assholes. There was Romney (not conservative), McCain (asshole), Bush (conservative only when compared to Obama who’d smashed all of Bush’s non-conservative records — spending and war), Dole. And there isn’t a conservative in the entire 2015-16 GOP field. There are only degrees of cuckservatives.</p>
<p>Bludgeon the Tea Party* — get Trump. Bludgeon Trump = get ?  Cause and effect can’t possibly be lost on “conservative&#8221; minds… …can it? All this time I believed the inability to connect the dots was symptomatic of the Liberal/Progressive/Leftist mindset. How does one not conclude cuckservatives, i.e.,  NeoCons, are not fifth columnists who’ve hijacked the Party and had their way with the canons, platforms, and planks. Reactionaries unite. Counter-Revolution!</p>
<p>*Of all people, Democrat Pat Cadell came to the defense of the Tea Party as it was being assaulted by Cuckservatives and NeoCons or whatever name they go by &#8211; I prefer sons-a-bitches.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/24/the-blogosphere-and-trump-commenters/#comment-1024860</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rollory&#039;s anger is a perfect expression of Trump supporters motivations -- no evidence as to the depravity of the other candidates, no understanding of the effect of a three-branch government, or of the effect of the MSM, the educational system, or the bureaucracy, just a feeling of betrayal (which is, to a large extent, well-justified). but which for some reason he directs toward the GOP. (Just to be clear, Rollery, I, too, would have liked to see a Republican Congress send bill after bill to the President to be vetoed -- but that&#039;s just theatrics.  They would have been vetoed with or without the theatrics.)

With all the brainpower on this blog, you&#039;d think we&#039;d be able to come up with a way to channel all that anger into supporting an electable, conservative, non-asshole candidate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rollory&#8217;s anger is a perfect expression of Trump supporters motivations &#8212; no evidence as to the depravity of the other candidates, no understanding of the effect of a three-branch government, or of the effect of the MSM, the educational system, or the bureaucracy, just a feeling of betrayal (which is, to a large extent, well-justified). but which for some reason he directs toward the GOP. (Just to be clear, Rollery, I, too, would have liked to see a Republican Congress send bill after bill to the President to be vetoed &#8212; but that&#8217;s just theatrics.  They would have been vetoed with or without the theatrics.)</p>
<p>With all the brainpower on this blog, you&#8217;d think we&#8217;d be able to come up with a way to channel all that anger into supporting an electable, conservative, non-asshole candidate.</p>
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		By: The Other Chuck		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/24/the-blogosphere-and-trump-commenters/#comment-1024364</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Other Chuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2016 04:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Whether one approves of Trump’s principles and intentions-...&lt;/i&gt;

Principles? PRINCIPLES?? The man has absolutely NO principles. Read his book. It is about how to con, maneuver, roll, fool, lie, deceive, and outwit whatever mark he is after. All of us, and especially you, are his latest victims. I feel extremely sorry for you, Mr. Rollory, because when you realize what has happened you will have no one but yourself to blame for being so stubbornly blinded by a two-bit reality show grifter. Until that time, please do yourself and the rest of us a favor, and keep your delusions and mania to yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Whether one approves of Trump’s principles and intentions-&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Principles? PRINCIPLES?? The man has absolutely NO principles. Read his book. It is about how to con, maneuver, roll, fool, lie, deceive, and outwit whatever mark he is after. All of us, and especially you, are his latest victims. I feel extremely sorry for you, Mr. Rollory, because when you realize what has happened you will have no one but yourself to blame for being so stubbornly blinded by a two-bit reality show grifter. Until that time, please do yourself and the rest of us a favor, and keep your delusions and mania to yourself.</p>
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		By: Rollory		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2016 03:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem is not with the commenters.

We&#039;re not trolls and we&#039;re not flamers.  We&#039;re simply saying things that you (&quot;you&quot; generally speaking, the people who happen to have high-traffic sites, as well as you in particular since you wrote this piece) disagree with and desperately don&#039;t want to admit.  There certainly is an interesting discussion to be had about why this is happening, but it won&#039;t happen so long as basic facts get rejected, which is what _all_ the &quot;everything going on is crazy&quot; people are doing.

There&#039;s nothing crazy about any of it once you admit certain basic facts.  But of course denial of reality produces incoherence.

&quot;But just a short while ago it looked like it was going to be a wonderful campaign year with lots of excellent candidates&quot;

This is just one example.  It is a most astounding lie.  There was not a single person in the field aside from Trump who was remotely acceptable; not a single one of whom it could be said there was the slightest chance that they weren&#039;t a dedicated liar and guaranteed to betray every single principle on which they&#039;d be elected.  (Before anybody brings up Cruz, he&#039;s bought and paid for by Goldman Sachs, who also brought us the 200 billion dollar housing bailout - and the real cost is still going up.)  This statement can be made simply from observing their past behavior - which the voters have been doing, in between American Idol and football, and are indeed picking up on the pattern.  Whether one approves of Trump&#039;s principles and intentions- stated or apparent - or not, there is at least the chance (slim, but nonzero) with him that he will turn out to not be a treasonous liar.  That can only be said of any of the other candidates if one deliberately ignores facts.

(I _already_ knew what to think of you specifically, after seeing the incredibly shabby manner with which you treated the Gates of Vienna people some years back.  It&#039;s nice to see others catching up on that.)

Mr. Maq, sir:

&quot;It seems a large segment of the GOP constituency don’t really want what the GOP’s been promising.&quot;

You, too, are lying.  To yourself or to your audience, it doesn&#039;t matter; it&#039;s a blatantly false statement and nobody who&#039;s been paying the slightest attention to events of the past 10 years has any excuse for making it.  The constituency absolutely wants what has been promised, the problem is that it never, ever gets delivered.  It most particularly doesn&#039;t get delivered when the elected officials absolutely have the power to do so but doing so might make the left unhappy with them - which is to say, all the time, for every issue.

The voters have repeatedly given Congress to the Republicans.  These Congressmen have repeatedly failed to act on any of the causes for which they were elected.  One really must be insane to then be surprised at what is happening now.  

One must be even more insane to be surprised at what will happen next time around, should this election not produce a result that at least begins to address the underlying issues.  But sure, blame your commenters.  That&#039;ll fix it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is not with the commenters.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not trolls and we&#8217;re not flamers.  We&#8217;re simply saying things that you (&#8220;you&#8221; generally speaking, the people who happen to have high-traffic sites, as well as you in particular since you wrote this piece) disagree with and desperately don&#8217;t want to admit.  There certainly is an interesting discussion to be had about why this is happening, but it won&#8217;t happen so long as basic facts get rejected, which is what _all_ the &#8220;everything going on is crazy&#8221; people are doing.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing crazy about any of it once you admit certain basic facts.  But of course denial of reality produces incoherence.</p>
<p>&#8220;But just a short while ago it looked like it was going to be a wonderful campaign year with lots of excellent candidates&#8221;</p>
<p>This is just one example.  It is a most astounding lie.  There was not a single person in the field aside from Trump who was remotely acceptable; not a single one of whom it could be said there was the slightest chance that they weren&#8217;t a dedicated liar and guaranteed to betray every single principle on which they&#8217;d be elected.  (Before anybody brings up Cruz, he&#8217;s bought and paid for by Goldman Sachs, who also brought us the 200 billion dollar housing bailout &#8211; and the real cost is still going up.)  This statement can be made simply from observing their past behavior &#8211; which the voters have been doing, in between American Idol and football, and are indeed picking up on the pattern.  Whether one approves of Trump&#8217;s principles and intentions- stated or apparent &#8211; or not, there is at least the chance (slim, but nonzero) with him that he will turn out to not be a treasonous liar.  That can only be said of any of the other candidates if one deliberately ignores facts.</p>
<p>(I _already_ knew what to think of you specifically, after seeing the incredibly shabby manner with which you treated the Gates of Vienna people some years back.  It&#8217;s nice to see others catching up on that.)</p>
<p>Mr. Maq, sir:</p>
<p>&#8220;It seems a large segment of the GOP constituency don’t really want what the GOP’s been promising.&#8221;</p>
<p>You, too, are lying.  To yourself or to your audience, it doesn&#8217;t matter; it&#8217;s a blatantly false statement and nobody who&#8217;s been paying the slightest attention to events of the past 10 years has any excuse for making it.  The constituency absolutely wants what has been promised, the problem is that it never, ever gets delivered.  It most particularly doesn&#8217;t get delivered when the elected officials absolutely have the power to do so but doing so might make the left unhappy with them &#8211; which is to say, all the time, for every issue.</p>
<p>The voters have repeatedly given Congress to the Republicans.  These Congressmen have repeatedly failed to act on any of the causes for which they were elected.  One really must be insane to then be surprised at what is happening now.  </p>
<p>One must be even more insane to be surprised at what will happen next time around, should this election not produce a result that at least begins to address the underlying issues.  But sure, blame your commenters.  That&#8217;ll fix it.</p>
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		By: steve.c		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/24/the-blogosphere-and-trump-commenters/#comment-1024162</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve.c]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2016 02:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;It seems a large segment of the GOP constituency don’t really want what the GOP’s been promising.

How does one square that round peg?
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To be fair, I don&#039;t have any good answer for this. We tend to think of the voters intentions as a &lt;i&gt;rational&lt;/i&gt; set of actions, when, I think, the reality is that it&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;irrational&lt;/i&gt; position, based on chronic and recurring disappointment turned over into abject anger.

If I were to take a step back and try to characterize the broadest base of Trump&#039;s support, it would be in this statement, directed at the McConnell-type wing:

&quot;Bet you idiots can hear me &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;!&quot;

That&#039;s not a rational statement, based in any kind of political reasoning. It&#039;s just an angry smack up the side of the head, based on 25 years of disappointment, punctuated by 2010, 2012, and especially 2014, and using the only blunt instrument that they could manage to make work.

Stated differently, it&#039;s a square peg in a round hole which really requires a wrench, yet all a plurality of voters have is the effective backside of an axe. It&#039;s likely to bounce back and cut them, but they&#039;ve resigned themselves to that risk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>It seems a large segment of the GOP constituency don’t really want what the GOP’s been promising.</p>
<p>How does one square that round peg?<br />
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<p>To be fair, I don&#8217;t have any good answer for this. We tend to think of the voters intentions as a <i>rational</i> set of actions, when, I think, the reality is that it&#8217;s a <i>irrational</i> position, based on chronic and recurring disappointment turned over into abject anger.</p>
<p>If I were to take a step back and try to characterize the broadest base of Trump&#8217;s support, it would be in this statement, directed at the McConnell-type wing:</p>
<p>&#8220;Bet you idiots can hear me <i>now</i>!&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a rational statement, based in any kind of political reasoning. It&#8217;s just an angry smack up the side of the head, based on 25 years of disappointment, punctuated by 2010, 2012, and especially 2014, and using the only blunt instrument that they could manage to make work.</p>
<p>Stated differently, it&#8217;s a square peg in a round hole which really requires a wrench, yet all a plurality of voters have is the effective backside of an axe. It&#8217;s likely to bounce back and cut them, but they&#8217;ve resigned themselves to that risk.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/24/the-blogosphere-and-trump-commenters/#comment-1023838</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt_SE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2016 00:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;“Most of us see Trump’s candidacy not only as the death knell of conservatism but as the surest possible way to elect Hillary Clinton.”&lt;/b&gt;

People seem to enjoy this quote, but it&#039;s wrong.

Trump and his followers don&#039;t have the power to destroy the GOPe, nor the Democrats. At most, they can only disrupt the general GOP until their supporters realize that they&#039;ve created a vacuum for the Democrats to exploit over, and over again.

Assuming the Dems haven&#039;t imported a new population by then, the Trumpkins will relent and start moderating their views.

Trump has no power beyond his base because he cannot command any other group to simply lay down and give up. Trumpism will also only last as long as Trump, unless you are referring to it as a more general example of cult-of-personality politics. That will probably endure.

Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, 2024!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>“Most of us see Trump’s candidacy not only as the death knell of conservatism but as the surest possible way to elect Hillary Clinton.”</b></p>
<p>People seem to enjoy this quote, but it&#8217;s wrong.</p>
<p>Trump and his followers don&#8217;t have the power to destroy the GOPe, nor the Democrats. At most, they can only disrupt the general GOP until their supporters realize that they&#8217;ve created a vacuum for the Democrats to exploit over, and over again.</p>
<p>Assuming the Dems haven&#8217;t imported a new population by then, the Trumpkins will relent and start moderating their views.</p>
<p>Trump has no power beyond his base because he cannot command any other group to simply lay down and give up. Trumpism will also only last as long as Trump, unless you are referring to it as a more general example of cult-of-personality politics. That will probably endure.</p>
<p>Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, 2024!</p>
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