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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/17/the-world-is-shifting-to-the-right-or-whats-called-the-right/#comment-1008883</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2016 04:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Saunders:

Some of the increase in Republican primary votes is due to people voting for Trump to sabotage the GOP by nominating him.  Some of the increase in Republican primary votes is due to Republicans and conservatives voting &lt;i&gt;against&lt;/i&gt; him.  None of it has any relevance to what will happen in the general, because we have no way to interpret that increase, and the majority of people in the GOP primaries are voting for someone else anyway.

And size and enthusiasm of crowds is not meaningful in terms of the general, either. I wrote about that &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2012/11/05/crowd-size-does-it-matter/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in 2012&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Saunders:</p>
<p>Some of the increase in Republican primary votes is due to people voting for Trump to sabotage the GOP by nominating him.  Some of the increase in Republican primary votes is due to Republicans and conservatives voting <i>against</i> him.  None of it has any relevance to what will happen in the general, because we have no way to interpret that increase, and the majority of people in the GOP primaries are voting for someone else anyway.</p>
<p>And size and enthusiasm of crowds is not meaningful in terms of the general, either. I wrote about that <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2012/11/05/crowd-size-does-it-matter/" rel="nofollow">in 2012</a>.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2016 01:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the H-1B issue, I had lunch today with an immigration lawyer and learned quite a bit about it.  She told me that there are only 65,000 slots per year available, but there are 300,000 applicants.  (I may have the numbers slightly wrong, but the ratio is right.)  I specifically asked her whether there weren&#039;t Americans able to fill those jobs, and she replied, &quot;Why would American companies be willing to pay me a lot of money to prepare applications for which there is only a 1 in 5 chance of being granted if there were Americans available to do these jobs?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the H-1B issue, I had lunch today with an immigration lawyer and learned quite a bit about it.  She told me that there are only 65,000 slots per year available, but there are 300,000 applicants.  (I may have the numbers slightly wrong, but the ratio is right.)  I specifically asked her whether there weren&#8217;t Americans able to fill those jobs, and she replied, &#8220;Why would American companies be willing to pay me a lot of money to prepare applications for which there is only a 1 in 5 chance of being granted if there were Americans available to do these jobs?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2016 01:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo - on Trump&#039;s &quot;conservatism&quot; we agree. On Trump&#039;s electability we shall have to agree to disagree, based on the increase in Republican votes because of Trump, the size and enthusiasm of his crowds, and the widespread hunger among the populace for a strongman.

OM - because Reagan had a likeability factor which was off the charts.  Even the MSM media fell under his spell.  No one is running now who even comes close.  Cruz is actually negative in that respect.

Jedi -- actually, no.  I billed a lot of time explaining to people who had never paid taxes before when the rates were 90, 70, and 50%, why they had to pay taxes now that the rate was 28%.  (I despair of politicians or the media ever learning that taxes paid are the product of the rate TIMES the taxable income.)  Also, there were tons of tax shelters floating around which I had to review and explain to my clients why they didn&#039;t work.  Not for long, though, within about six months, Congress started hanging things back on the Internal Revenue Code until it looked like the old Christmas tree, and it was back to business as usual.

BTW, if you think I don&#039;t know I am part of the parasitic class, just a cog in the great wheel of paper (soon to be replaced by electrons) circulating from the public to the intercessors like me to the government and around again, endlessly, you are quite mistaken.

It&#039;s C.M. Kornbluth&#039;s &quot;The Marching Morons,&quot; except it wasn&#039;t the lower classes who overbred, it was the middle classes, and the problem wasn&#039;t solved by creating factories which built things to be shipped to factories where the things were demolished, it was solved be creating the great wheel of paper.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo &#8211; on Trump&#8217;s &#8220;conservatism&#8221; we agree. On Trump&#8217;s electability we shall have to agree to disagree, based on the increase in Republican votes because of Trump, the size and enthusiasm of his crowds, and the widespread hunger among the populace for a strongman.</p>
<p>OM &#8211; because Reagan had a likeability factor which was off the charts.  Even the MSM media fell under his spell.  No one is running now who even comes close.  Cruz is actually negative in that respect.</p>
<p>Jedi &#8212; actually, no.  I billed a lot of time explaining to people who had never paid taxes before when the rates were 90, 70, and 50%, why they had to pay taxes now that the rate was 28%.  (I despair of politicians or the media ever learning that taxes paid are the product of the rate TIMES the taxable income.)  Also, there were tons of tax shelters floating around which I had to review and explain to my clients why they didn&#8217;t work.  Not for long, though, within about six months, Congress started hanging things back on the Internal Revenue Code until it looked like the old Christmas tree, and it was back to business as usual.</p>
<p>BTW, if you think I don&#8217;t know I am part of the parasitic class, just a cog in the great wheel of paper (soon to be replaced by electrons) circulating from the public to the intercessors like me to the government and around again, endlessly, you are quite mistaken.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s C.M. Kornbluth&#8217;s &#8220;The Marching Morons,&#8221; except it wasn&#8217;t the lower classes who overbred, it was the middle classes, and the problem wasn&#8217;t solved by creating factories which built things to be shipped to factories where the things were demolished, it was solved be creating the great wheel of paper.</p>
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		By: mf		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2016 23:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Diana West on the language of violence as used by the Trump haters against the object of their affections, the so-called Trumpsters:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mlvb.net/dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3289/The-PCE-Pt-13-The-Language-of-Violence.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Post-Constitutiomal Election, Pt. 13: The Language of Violence&lt;/a&gt;

Marten Gantelius first caught my attention with the following comment posted at Gates of Vienna during the early days of the merican Betrayal wars:

[&lt;a href=&quot;http://dianawest.net/Portals/0/tweets/Screen%20Shot%202016-03-18%20at%2010.51.26%20AM.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Screen Shot&lt;/a&gt;]

Such an assessment sounds shocking; but, I will add, it is one I have heard in hardly dissimilar terms and separately from experienced intelligence professionals, who, having studied the &quot;disinformation campaign&quot; against  American Betrayal, have explained it to me as an effort to destroy my work and &quot;kill&quot; me -- my reputation as a reputable author -- for the future.

Marten Gantelius would later apply his tools to offer a &quot;linguistic perspective&quot; on a subsequent three-part series about  American Betrayal, which he published &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jrnyquist.com/ronald-and-di.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; at J.R. Nyquist. (If you read it, be sure and click on the links so that you can see his underlined worksheets, illustrating his technique.)

But this post is not about all of that -- except insofar as the &quot;language of violence&quot; and its use in the destruction of a person or persons is relevant to understanding the unceasing public campaign not usually against the  policies of Donald Trump (just as the attacks on American Betrayal were not against its actual contents), but rather mainly against his person and his supporters.

Almost as a lark, I began some weeks ago to collect the jaw-dropping and dehumanizing abuse heaped on Trump and Trump voters from the right side of the political spectrum. I am talking about the writings and utterances of GOP political professionals -- consultants, speechwriters, commentators -- and journalists, who write for or edit conservative publications, or who are hired to express a conservative or right-leaning point of view.

It is hard to describe what this &lt;a href=&quot;http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3287/The-Rights-Donald-Trump-Lexicon.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dictionary or lexicon&lt;/a&gt; has since become -- but if the Nile were a sewer the metaphor would not be far off. The list of slurs and ugly talk is alphabetical now, but I probably should redesign it by category: the language of Hitler and facsism category (Glenn Beck is a leader here); the language of Trump-as-disease category (cancer, virus, chlamydia, STD); the language of deviant sexuality category (Kevin Williamson, Rick Wilson and Erick Erickson excel here); the Trump supporter abuse category; the Trump supporter as traitor/collaborator category (including talk of blacklists, summary executions); the language of bitterness/contempt category. The language of scatology. All this from the very same people who cluck about Trump&#039;s &quot;tone.&quot;

I could go on and on, subdividing this language of violence. There is even, recklessly, dangerously, the language of literal violence: put a bullet in him ... stabbing ... slit throats ... machine gun ... the invocation of assassination from Ross Douthat at the New York Times.

I asked Marten Gantelius what he thought of my lexicon. Of course, I didn&#039;t need his expert opinion to know this rancid body of rhetoric is the language of violence. But I wondered if there was something more he would see. He didn&#039;t disappoint.

He wrote:

&quot;Hello again Diana,

Your Trump Lexicon is a good example of the Language of Violence.

When the LoV is used, violence is both the means and the ends. It can be disguised by a variety of “good” pretexts.

Almost always, the LoV is the source of a following physical violence.  And it is important to understand that it is deliberate with the modern roots in the massive Soviet dezinformatsiya industry.

Conclusion: Stop classifying people as leftists, conservatives, environmentalists etc. Classify them according to the language they use! I have done it for years  - I know it works.

All the best

Marten&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diana West on the language of violence as used by the Trump haters against the object of their affections, the so-called Trumpsters:</p>
<p><a href="http://mlvb.net/dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3289/The-PCE-Pt-13-The-Language-of-Violence.aspx" rel="nofollow">The Post-Constitutiomal Election, Pt. 13: The Language of Violence</a></p>
<p>Marten Gantelius first caught my attention with the following comment posted at Gates of Vienna during the early days of the merican Betrayal wars:</p>
<p>[<a href="http://dianawest.net/Portals/0/tweets/Screen%20Shot%202016-03-18%20at%2010.51.26%20AM.png" rel="nofollow">Screen Shot</a>]</p>
<p>Such an assessment sounds shocking; but, I will add, it is one I have heard in hardly dissimilar terms and separately from experienced intelligence professionals, who, having studied the &#8220;disinformation campaign&#8221; against  American Betrayal, have explained it to me as an effort to destroy my work and &#8220;kill&#8221; me &#8212; my reputation as a reputable author &#8212; for the future.</p>
<p>Marten Gantelius would later apply his tools to offer a &#8220;linguistic perspective&#8221; on a subsequent three-part series about  American Betrayal, which he published <a href="http://www.jrnyquist.com/ronald-and-di.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> at J.R. Nyquist. (If you read it, be sure and click on the links so that you can see his underlined worksheets, illustrating his technique.)</p>
<p>But this post is not about all of that &#8212; except insofar as the &#8220;language of violence&#8221; and its use in the destruction of a person or persons is relevant to understanding the unceasing public campaign not usually against the  policies of Donald Trump (just as the attacks on American Betrayal were not against its actual contents), but rather mainly against his person and his supporters.</p>
<p>Almost as a lark, I began some weeks ago to collect the jaw-dropping and dehumanizing abuse heaped on Trump and Trump voters from the right side of the political spectrum. I am talking about the writings and utterances of GOP political professionals &#8212; consultants, speechwriters, commentators &#8212; and journalists, who write for or edit conservative publications, or who are hired to express a conservative or right-leaning point of view.</p>
<p>It is hard to describe what this <a href="http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3287/The-Rights-Donald-Trump-Lexicon.aspx" rel="nofollow">dictionary or lexicon</a> has since become &#8212; but if the Nile were a sewer the metaphor would not be far off. The list of slurs and ugly talk is alphabetical now, but I probably should redesign it by category: the language of Hitler and facsism category (Glenn Beck is a leader here); the language of Trump-as-disease category (cancer, virus, chlamydia, STD); the language of deviant sexuality category (Kevin Williamson, Rick Wilson and Erick Erickson excel here); the Trump supporter abuse category; the Trump supporter as traitor/collaborator category (including talk of blacklists, summary executions); the language of bitterness/contempt category. The language of scatology. All this from the very same people who cluck about Trump&#8217;s &#8220;tone.&#8221;</p>
<p>I could go on and on, subdividing this language of violence. There is even, recklessly, dangerously, the language of literal violence: put a bullet in him &#8230; stabbing &#8230; slit throats &#8230; machine gun &#8230; the invocation of assassination from Ross Douthat at the New York Times.</p>
<p>I asked Marten Gantelius what he thought of my lexicon. Of course, I didn&#8217;t need his expert opinion to know this rancid body of rhetoric is the language of violence. But I wondered if there was something more he would see. He didn&#8217;t disappoint.</p>
<p>He wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hello again Diana,</p>
<p>Your Trump Lexicon is a good example of the Language of Violence.</p>
<p>When the LoV is used, violence is both the means and the ends. It can be disguised by a variety of “good” pretexts.</p>
<p>Almost always, the LoV is the source of a following physical violence.  And it is important to understand that it is deliberate with the modern roots in the massive Soviet dezinformatsiya industry.</p>
<p>Conclusion: Stop classifying people as leftists, conservatives, environmentalists etc. Classify them according to the language they use! I have done it for years  &#8211; I know it works.</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>Marten&#8221;</p>
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		By: Sam L.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2016 21:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shifting right?  Mainly because a) the left is lying to us, and b) the left refuses to discuss what the populace is concerned about, and c) the left calls them names for wanting to discuss what they are concerned about.  Trifecta!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shifting right?  Mainly because a) the left is lying to us, and b) the left refuses to discuss what the populace is concerned about, and c) the left calls them names for wanting to discuss what they are concerned about.  Trifecta!</p>
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		By: Jedi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2016 20:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OM:

Maybe cuz Ronnie was bad for the tax lawyering biz as well as many other non-productive government created schemes that churn the hard earned dollars in the accounts of those who are productive.]]></description>
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<p>Maybe cuz Ronnie was bad for the tax lawyering biz as well as many other non-productive government created schemes that churn the hard earned dollars in the accounts of those who are productive.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Saunders:

You seem to have skipped Ronald Regan when discussing elections and conservatives.  Why so?]]></description>
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<p>You seem to have skipped Ronald Regan when discussing elections and conservatives.  Why so?</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Saunders:

Most anti-Trump people believe that Trump is &lt;i&gt;neither &quot;electable&quot; NOR conservative.&lt;/i&gt;

In supporting Cruz they are going by the Buckley rule in terms of their evaluation of both Trump&#039;s political positions and his chances of winning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Saunders:</p>
<p>Most anti-Trump people believe that Trump is <i>neither &#8220;electable&#8221; NOR conservative.</i></p>
<p>In supporting Cruz they are going by the Buckley rule in terms of their evaluation of both Trump&#8217;s political positions and his chances of winning.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back to the Trump situation -- over and over at the beginning of the campaign, I quoted Bill Buckley , &quot;Pick the most conservative ELECTABLE candidate.&quot;  Over and over again I pointed out &quot;Winning isn&#039;t everything, winning is the ONLY thing.&quot; Over and over again I told people about what happened in  1964 when we tried to elect a &quot;True Conservative.&quot;

But, my words, Cassandra-like, fell on deaf ears, and so we end up with Trump, a complete asshole, and Cruz, who is another Goldwater.

Well, as Dick Cheney said, &quot;You go to war with the army you have, not the army you would like to have.&quot;

As it stands now, the election will come down to a choice between someone who will occasionally do the right thing, even if only for his own ego&#039;s sake or by accident, and who is pro-American, vs. someone who will, by conscious design, never do the right thing, and who is profoundly dedicated to destroying the United States as we know it.

If Jack Kennedy, Scoop Jackson, Sam Nunn, or Joe Lieberman were running against Trump, I would seriously consider voting for them.  But Hillary Clinton (and a stay-home or third party vote is a vote for Hillary)?  Never, never, never!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the Trump situation &#8212; over and over at the beginning of the campaign, I quoted Bill Buckley , &#8220;Pick the most conservative ELECTABLE candidate.&#8221;  Over and over again I pointed out &#8220;Winning isn&#8217;t everything, winning is the ONLY thing.&#8221; Over and over again I told people about what happened in  1964 when we tried to elect a &#8220;True Conservative.&#8221;</p>
<p>But, my words, Cassandra-like, fell on deaf ears, and so we end up with Trump, a complete asshole, and Cruz, who is another Goldwater.</p>
<p>Well, as Dick Cheney said, &#8220;You go to war with the army you have, not the army you would like to have.&#8221;</p>
<p>As it stands now, the election will come down to a choice between someone who will occasionally do the right thing, even if only for his own ego&#8217;s sake or by accident, and who is pro-American, vs. someone who will, by conscious design, never do the right thing, and who is profoundly dedicated to destroying the United States as we know it.</p>
<p>If Jack Kennedy, Scoop Jackson, Sam Nunn, or Joe Lieberman were running against Trump, I would seriously consider voting for them.  But Hillary Clinton (and a stay-home or third party vote is a vote for Hillary)?  Never, never, never!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is very enlightening that people who don&#039;t want to be raped, shot, or blown up, or who want their country to be ruled by their own elected government are considered far-right in Europe.  But we are getting to the same point here in the US, where Justice Scalia is considered far-right by the elite because he believed that the people should make legislation, not &quot;nine unelected lawyers in black robes.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very enlightening that people who don&#8217;t want to be raped, shot, or blown up, or who want their country to be ruled by their own elected government are considered far-right in Europe.  But we are getting to the same point here in the US, where Justice Scalia is considered far-right by the elite because he believed that the people should make legislation, not &#8220;nine unelected lawyers in black robes.&#8221;</p>
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