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		By: Sardondi		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/08/what-would-it-take-to-impeach-and-convict-a-president/#comment-992124</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sardondi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nixon was hounded from office* by a viciously antagonistic and vengeance-minded media, for what amounts to &lt;i&gt;talking about&lt;/i&gt; misdeeds that Barack Obama magnified and then turned into the cornerstone policy of his administration. Obama&#039;s complete transformation of the IRS into a partisan weapon that alone dwarfs anything Nixon contemplated. For this alone Obama should have been impeached and convicted; never mind his repeated acts of lawlessness, unbridled corruption and defiance of the Constitution, particularly his trampling of the separation of powers. 

Obama&#039;s crimes are shocking in not only their number, but their nature and extent as well. From his similar corruption of the Department of Justice into a partisan scourge to protect his cronies and punish his enemies; his lies to the country about his knowledge of and role in the Benghazi debacle and his cowardly betrayal and needless sacrifice of four brave Americans; his incredibly cynical anti-firearm Operation Fast and Furious which has cost the lives of an untold number of innocent Americans and Mexicans; to, worst of all, his attempted coup-by-illegal-alien, by which he has ignored his explicit duty under our immigration laws in order to fashion a permanent Democrat voting advantage by counterfeiting voters out of citizens of Mexico and Latin America whom he has &lt;i&gt;invited&lt;/i&gt; to illegally enter the US. These are just the most egregious, major impeachable offenses, and don&#039;t begin to reach the financial and political corruption Obama has engendered through his &quot;crony capitalism&quot;. 

It matters not a whit that partisanship has so corrupted Congressional Democrats, or that the imperative to appeasement has so infected Congressional Republicans, that obtaining a conviction, if not passing the very articles of impeachment, would be doubtful. His crimes cry out for redress, and justice demands a reckoning. When courage and principle was needed, the GOP leadership responded with cringing and fear, for which many are soon to pay the penalty. It is history&#039;s shame that no one in Congress had the moral courage to even attempt to hold Barack Obama to account for unprecedented crimes.  



* He was not impeached. The House Judiciary Committee 
recommended impeachment, but there was never a vote taken by the House of Representatives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nixon was hounded from office* by a viciously antagonistic and vengeance-minded media, for what amounts to <i>talking about</i> misdeeds that Barack Obama magnified and then turned into the cornerstone policy of his administration. Obama&#8217;s complete transformation of the IRS into a partisan weapon that alone dwarfs anything Nixon contemplated. For this alone Obama should have been impeached and convicted; never mind his repeated acts of lawlessness, unbridled corruption and defiance of the Constitution, particularly his trampling of the separation of powers. </p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s crimes are shocking in not only their number, but their nature and extent as well. From his similar corruption of the Department of Justice into a partisan scourge to protect his cronies and punish his enemies; his lies to the country about his knowledge of and role in the Benghazi debacle and his cowardly betrayal and needless sacrifice of four brave Americans; his incredibly cynical anti-firearm Operation Fast and Furious which has cost the lives of an untold number of innocent Americans and Mexicans; to, worst of all, his attempted coup-by-illegal-alien, by which he has ignored his explicit duty under our immigration laws in order to fashion a permanent Democrat voting advantage by counterfeiting voters out of citizens of Mexico and Latin America whom he has <i>invited</i> to illegally enter the US. These are just the most egregious, major impeachable offenses, and don&#8217;t begin to reach the financial and political corruption Obama has engendered through his &#8220;crony capitalism&#8221;. </p>
<p>It matters not a whit that partisanship has so corrupted Congressional Democrats, or that the imperative to appeasement has so infected Congressional Republicans, that obtaining a conviction, if not passing the very articles of impeachment, would be doubtful. His crimes cry out for redress, and justice demands a reckoning. When courage and principle was needed, the GOP leadership responded with cringing and fear, for which many are soon to pay the penalty. It is history&#8217;s shame that no one in Congress had the moral courage to even attempt to hold Barack Obama to account for unprecedented crimes.  </p>
<p>* He was not impeached. The House Judiciary Committee<br />
recommended impeachment, but there was never a vote taken by the House of Representatives.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/08/what-would-it-take-to-impeach-and-convict-a-president/#comment-992006</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 16:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Nixon designed before he was born.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Nixon designed before he was born.</p>
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		By: Gustav Speed		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/08/what-would-it-take-to-impeach-and-convict-a-president/#comment-991989</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gustav Speed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 16:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only two were impeached. Johnson and Clinton.  

Nixon had articles approved by a house committee  but the articles were never voted on by the whole House.

He designed before the vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only two were impeached. Johnson and Clinton.  </p>
<p>Nixon had articles approved by a house committee  but the articles were never voted on by the whole House.</p>
<p>He designed before the vote.</p>
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		By: Gooch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gooch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 08:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think you were right when you said it would be a republican President. As you said, several republican Senators told Nixon he wouldn&#039;t survive. 

I think that republican Senators would be more likely to vote the personal beliefs than party line, I propose that if, parties reversed, the impeachment vote in 1999 would have been very much close. I am not prepared to say that the impeachment would have been approved. 

Instead all 45 democratic Senators voted against all impeachment charges. To further demonstrate my position, 10 republicans voted against at least one impeachment count.

In 1974, I have absolutely no doubt that a democratic President would have completed his term. I have my doubts that the impeachment charges would have even passed, let alone removal from office]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you were right when you said it would be a republican President. As you said, several republican Senators told Nixon he wouldn&#8217;t survive. </p>
<p>I think that republican Senators would be more likely to vote the personal beliefs than party line, I propose that if, parties reversed, the impeachment vote in 1999 would have been very much close. I am not prepared to say that the impeachment would have been approved. </p>
<p>Instead all 45 democratic Senators voted against all impeachment charges. To further demonstrate my position, 10 republicans voted against at least one impeachment count.</p>
<p>In 1974, I have absolutely no doubt that a democratic President would have completed his term. I have my doubts that the impeachment charges would have even passed, let alone removal from office</p>
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		By: Mark Otterson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Otterson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only two impeached: Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only two impeached: Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.</p>
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		By: Carl Eric Scott		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/08/what-would-it-take-to-impeach-and-convict-a-president/#comment-991702</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Eric Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We might eventually want an amendment that makes conviction in the Senate easier.  Then, again, with Obama, had the GOP had the necessary guts to impeach him in the House, the impossibility of his being convicted in the Senate would have been a feature, not a bug.  

I tried my blogger&#039;s best to get the GOP to issue a serious impeachment-threat in 2014:  http://www.nationalreview.com/postmodern-conservative/384310/case-formally-threatening-obama-impeachment-right-now-carl-eric-scott  No-one who counted listened, and it&#039;s things like that that are part of the reason we now face the shameful possibility of a Trump nomination.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We might eventually want an amendment that makes conviction in the Senate easier.  Then, again, with Obama, had the GOP had the necessary guts to impeach him in the House, the impossibility of his being convicted in the Senate would have been a feature, not a bug.  </p>
<p>I tried my blogger&#8217;s best to get the GOP to issue a serious impeachment-threat in 2014:  <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/postmodern-conservative/384310/case-formally-threatening-obama-impeachment-right-now-carl-eric-scott" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nationalreview.com/postmodern-conservative/384310/case-formally-threatening-obama-impeachment-right-now-carl-eric-scott</a>  No-one who counted listened, and it&#8217;s things like that that are part of the reason we now face the shameful possibility of a Trump nomination.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 06:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Trump gets the Republican nomination, look for him to select as VP an individual fully as defective as him, as insurance against a bipartisan coalition in the House &#038; Senate voting to impeach, convict and remove him from office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Trump gets the Republican nomination, look for him to select as VP an individual fully as defective as him, as insurance against a bipartisan coalition in the House &amp; Senate voting to impeach, convict and remove him from office.</p>
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		By: BD		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/08/what-would-it-take-to-impeach-and-convict-a-president/#comment-991438</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 04:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Three presidents were impeached?  I got Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.  Who&#039;s the third?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three presidents were impeached?  I got Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.  Who&#8217;s the third?</p>
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		By: geokstr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/08/what-would-it-take-to-impeach-and-convict-a-president/#comment-991273</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[geokstr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 02:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Cornhead Says: 
&quot;A Black or female president will never be impeached.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
Clinton was doubleplusgood then, by virtue of being the first black lesbian president.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Cornhead Says:<br />
&#8220;A Black or female president will never be impeached.&#8221;</i><br />
Clinton was doubleplusgood then, by virtue of being the first black lesbian president.</p>
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		By: Nick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 02:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not to get all Trumpy on a non-Trump thread, but he&#039;d get impeached and convicted within 6 months of taking office.  Contempt for the Constitution + neither party having any interest in protecting him.  Add in the fact that he&#039;d probably be bored with the office, and want to prove that he was as tough as Bill Clinton, he&#039;d practically goad Congress into it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to get all Trumpy on a non-Trump thread, but he&#8217;d get impeached and convicted within 6 months of taking office.  Contempt for the Constitution + neither party having any interest in protecting him.  Add in the fact that he&#8217;d probably be bored with the office, and want to prove that he was as tough as Bill Clinton, he&#8217;d practically goad Congress into it.</p>
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