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		By: ArtfldgrsGhost		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/07/did-trump-underperform-last-saturday/#comment-992066</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 18:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[im a person who knows that birds of a feather flock together and a honest person does not make a team of establishment crooks that were caught and didnt do jail time, and are his key players... his team is mostly a rogues gallery of people we dislike if we dont like bank bailouts (silverado), war and toppling governments (iran contra), and cheating tax payers (woolsey)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im a person who knows that birds of a feather flock together and a honest person does not make a team of establishment crooks that were caught and didnt do jail time, and are his key players&#8230; his team is mostly a rogues gallery of people we dislike if we dont like bank bailouts (silverado), war and toppling governments (iran contra), and cheating tax payers (woolsey)</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/07/did-trump-underperform-last-saturday/#comment-990829</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr:

Indeed, when someone lies and lies and lies there is no way to know &lt;i&gt;for sure&lt;/i&gt; what they think and feel, and what they will do.

Nevertheless, it is still possible---and necessary---to try to evaluate that person and what the person thinks and feels and what that person will &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; if in office.

The very best way to do that is to study the person, and in particular I find that &lt;i&gt;unscripted&lt;/i&gt; ad lib moments can be very telling, although all behavior and words are grist for the mill.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr:</p>
<p>Indeed, when someone lies and lies and lies there is no way to know <i>for sure</i> what they think and feel, and what they will do.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, it is still possible&#8212;and necessary&#8212;to try to evaluate that person and what the person thinks and feels and what that person will <i>do</i> if in office.</p>
<p>The very best way to do that is to study the person, and in particular I find that <i>unscripted</i> ad lib moments can be very telling, although all behavior and words are grist for the mill.</p>
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		By: ArtfldgrsGhost		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/07/did-trump-underperform-last-saturday/#comment-990823</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo-neocon Says: to Geoffrey:  Your interpretation of Trump’s intent is not supported by his words. Mine is. 

and yet, in other points you said he lies... 
so does it really matter if words today support something that changes tomorrow? unlike politicians and ideology, a business man changes tack all the time the instant something is not the way it was thought to be... thats called adaptability, but in politics its flip flopping... 

note that yahoo was a search company
now its a holding company with a search engine

happens all the time in business... 
not so much in liberal politics where someone who declares when they are 8 years old X must stay with X

why? 
cause if your young and not socialist you have no heart
if your old and socialist you have no brain

and if we stop yo from flipflopping we geto to have your socialist answers stick when you have a brain to change them

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo-neocon Says: to Geoffrey:  Your interpretation of Trump’s intent is not supported by his words. Mine is. </p>
<p>and yet, in other points you said he lies&#8230;<br />
so does it really matter if words today support something that changes tomorrow? unlike politicians and ideology, a business man changes tack all the time the instant something is not the way it was thought to be&#8230; thats called adaptability, but in politics its flip flopping&#8230; </p>
<p>note that yahoo was a search company<br />
now its a holding company with a search engine</p>
<p>happens all the time in business&#8230;<br />
not so much in liberal politics where someone who declares when they are 8 years old X must stay with X</p>
<p>why?<br />
cause if your young and not socialist you have no heart<br />
if your old and socialist you have no brain</p>
<p>and if we stop yo from flipflopping we geto to have your socialist answers stick when you have a brain to change them</p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: ArtfldgrsGhost		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/07/did-trump-underperform-last-saturday/#comment-990817</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain, i forgot that quote... 
he also said, size is a quality unto itself

as for oldflyer and his nasty anti trump point and claiming he doesnt care about Goldman sachs as his wife, if you look to the donations for the election, GS was one of the largest donators to Cruz election on his own website. so maybe it DOES have some meaning... eh? 

sorry neo, didnt have time to read the answers to my points, but hopefully they werent misunderstood, as the morality point is just an interesting thing and can be taken many ways depending on where one is standing and what position one takes... 

its just interesting, and hopefully it was taken that way]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain, i forgot that quote&#8230;<br />
he also said, size is a quality unto itself</p>
<p>as for oldflyer and his nasty anti trump point and claiming he doesnt care about Goldman sachs as his wife, if you look to the donations for the election, GS was one of the largest donators to Cruz election on his own website. so maybe it DOES have some meaning&#8230; eh? </p>
<p>sorry neo, didnt have time to read the answers to my points, but hopefully they werent misunderstood, as the morality point is just an interesting thing and can be taken many ways depending on where one is standing and what position one takes&#8230; </p>
<p>its just interesting, and hopefully it was taken that way</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yancey Ward:

Depends what you mean by &quot;present course.&quot;

I can easily imagine the following: a conservative president elected in 2916 with a Republican Congess; &lt;i&gt;successful&lt;/i&gt; policies implemented that help the economy, foreign policy, liberty, etc. etc.; people &lt;i&gt;notice&lt;/i&gt; the contrast between the previous administration and this one; people realize the improvement is due at least in part to Republicans in charge; people start voting that way, at least for a while, if they can retain the information.

It&#039;s not so very hard to imagine.  It might have even occurred, but for the war within the Republican Party, a war exploited (although not caused) by Trump, and a war that is increasing in severity.

A war &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2012/10/02/romneys-awful-campaign/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I predicted&lt;/a&gt;, by the way (last three paragraphs).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yancey Ward:</p>
<p>Depends what you mean by &#8220;present course.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can easily imagine the following: a conservative president elected in 2916 with a Republican Congess; <i>successful</i> policies implemented that help the economy, foreign policy, liberty, etc. etc.; people <i>notice</i> the contrast between the previous administration and this one; people realize the improvement is due at least in part to Republicans in charge; people start voting that way, at least for a while, if they can retain the information.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so very hard to imagine.  It might have even occurred, but for the war within the Republican Party, a war exploited (although not caused) by Trump, and a war that is increasing in severity.</p>
<p>A war <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2012/10/02/romneys-awful-campaign/" rel="nofollow">I predicted</a>, by the way (last three paragraphs).</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2016 17:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A common theme is the question, &quot;Why is the Republican Party ripping itself to shreds?&quot;

The answer is simple- the Democrats have assembled a demographic edge in national elections- an edge that is only growing, and they intend to increase the rate of that growth by importing even more of their voters so that they can extend that edge back into the legislatures at the state levels.  The Republicans are tearing themselves apart because there is no future in their present course.  They &lt;i&gt;must&lt;/i&gt; reinvent themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A common theme is the question, &#8220;Why is the Republican Party ripping itself to shreds?&#8221;</p>
<p>The answer is simple- the Democrats have assembled a demographic edge in national elections- an edge that is only growing, and they intend to increase the rate of that growth by importing even more of their voters so that they can extend that edge back into the legislatures at the state levels.  The Republicans are tearing themselves apart because there is no future in their present course.  They <i>must</i> reinvent themselves.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/07/did-trump-underperform-last-saturday/#comment-990617</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Submitted by Pater Tenebrarum via Acting-Man.com,

A Serious Contender with a Plan 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-08/trumpomania-trumpopanic

An impressive discourse with lots of web links.

&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;

We need to stop thinking so much about stopping Trump -- and more about stopping Hillary.

To my mind, Ted Cruz is the only fella that can stop Hillary AND has a shot at the nomination.

In the above linked missive, no words given about the huge number of GOP faithful that Trump is SURE to turn off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Submitted by Pater Tenebrarum via Acting-Man.com,</p>
<p>A Serious Contender with a Plan </p>
<p><a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-08/trumpomania-trumpopanic" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-08/trumpomania-trumpopanic</a></p>
<p>An impressive discourse with lots of web links.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>We need to stop thinking so much about stopping Trump &#8212; and more about stopping Hillary.</p>
<p>To my mind, Ted Cruz is the only fella that can stop Hillary AND has a shot at the nomination.</p>
<p>In the above linked missive, no words given about the huge number of GOP faithful that Trump is SURE to turn off.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/03/07/did-trump-underperform-last-saturday/#comment-990578</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.thewrap.com/fox-news-bret-baier-some-republicans-could-back-hillary-clinton-over-donald-trump/

Again.

Trump sheds GOP votes FASTER than he gains Democrat votes.

He can&#039;t possibly win in November.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.thewrap.com/fox-news-bret-baier-some-republicans-could-back-hillary-clinton-over-donald-trump/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.thewrap.com/fox-news-bret-baier-some-republicans-could-back-hillary-clinton-over-donald-trump/</a></p>
<p>Again.</p>
<p>Trump sheds GOP votes FASTER than he gains Democrat votes.</p>
<p>He can&#8217;t possibly win in November.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump&#039;s claim to be intrinsically worth $3,000,000,000 based upon his skill set and reputation is not so far off the mark.

Because his BANKERS treat him so differently than the average developer.

If a fellow gets to persistently obtain credit at below market normal rates and terms -- yes that has real value.

And Trump has that ability -- in scale.

I would say that he&#039;s over stating his case -- but he has a case.

He REALLY DOES get special treatment.

When he was in violation of his loan covenants -- effectively insolvent -- bankrupt -- the syndicate refused to foreclose!

Instead, he was given a $650,000 per MONTH allowance!

Could you do that?

Very, very few real estate developers would ever be given that kind of slack.

The Biggest Bankers in our nation love Donald Trump. He&#039;s been a cash machine for them. Hence, they&#039;re willing to endure him -- even when he&#039;s upside down.

His casino fiascos entered Chapter 11 because the funds were owed not to bankers -- but to bond holders.

He couldn&#039;t finesse those loan covenants.

BTW, his peers also had even worse experiences in Atlantic City than he did, much worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump&#8217;s claim to be intrinsically worth $3,000,000,000 based upon his skill set and reputation is not so far off the mark.</p>
<p>Because his BANKERS treat him so differently than the average developer.</p>
<p>If a fellow gets to persistently obtain credit at below market normal rates and terms &#8212; yes that has real value.</p>
<p>And Trump has that ability &#8212; in scale.</p>
<p>I would say that he&#8217;s over stating his case &#8212; but he has a case.</p>
<p>He REALLY DOES get special treatment.</p>
<p>When he was in violation of his loan covenants &#8212; effectively insolvent &#8212; bankrupt &#8212; the syndicate refused to foreclose!</p>
<p>Instead, he was given a $650,000 per MONTH allowance!</p>
<p>Could you do that?</p>
<p>Very, very few real estate developers would ever be given that kind of slack.</p>
<p>The Biggest Bankers in our nation love Donald Trump. He&#8217;s been a cash machine for them. Hence, they&#8217;re willing to endure him &#8212; even when he&#8217;s upside down.</p>
<p>His casino fiascos entered Chapter 11 because the funds were owed not to bankers &#8212; but to bond holders.</p>
<p>He couldn&#8217;t finesse those loan covenants.</p>
<p>BTW, his peers also had even worse experiences in Atlantic City than he did, much worse.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2016 15:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW, Donald&#039;s father would&#039;ve certainly forgiven a portion of the Purchase Money Mortgage year after year.

One can give away $10,000 per year per relative without triggering the Federal Gift Tax.

That figure has changed over the years -- and I don&#039;t think it&#039;s even current. It&#039;s just the last value I remember.

Trump made his fortune via hyper leverage. 

In effect, shorting the US dollar.

Period.

It&#039;s been a one-way bet for his entire lifetime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Donald&#8217;s father would&#8217;ve certainly forgiven a portion of the Purchase Money Mortgage year after year.</p>
<p>One can give away $10,000 per year per relative without triggering the Federal Gift Tax.</p>
<p>That figure has changed over the years &#8212; and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s even current. It&#8217;s just the last value I remember.</p>
<p>Trump made his fortune via hyper leverage. </p>
<p>In effect, shorting the US dollar.</p>
<p>Period.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a one-way bet for his entire lifetime.</p>
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