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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/27/cruz-and-rubio-are-playing-chicken/#comment-975969</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Feb 2016 12:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem has always and ever will be, the Leftist alliance. Nothing else really matters, because all of America&#039;s problems can be linked to an origin point somewhere caused by a member in the Left.

Destroy the Left, and half of your problems vanish, and the other half can finally now be &quot;solved&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem has always and ever will be, the Leftist alliance. Nothing else really matters, because all of America&#8217;s problems can be linked to an origin point somewhere caused by a member in the Left.</p>
<p>Destroy the Left, and half of your problems vanish, and the other half can finally now be &#8220;solved&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/27/cruz-and-rubio-are-playing-chicken/#comment-975581</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 22:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[blert, Bob, you&#039;re just flat-out wrong -- Immigration is not the most important issue of this election, not by a long shot.  I&#039;d rank it about sixth, after the gutting of the military, the feckless foreign policy of undercutting our friends and boosting our enemies, the refusal to deal with, even acknowlege, Islamic Fascism as an existential threat, the overregulation and overtaxation of the economy, and the grotesque overspending, utter ineptitude, and outrageous unconstitutional overreach by the federal government.

As to immigration, after securing the borders, controlling visa overstays, deporting criminals, implementing e-verify and other employment controls -- as to which Cruz and Rubio are in agreement -- we can work out the details of who gets to go and who to stay later.  Hell, you can&#039;t even define what amnesty is, but you&#039;re against it.

Illegal immigration has been an issue for decades, it can wait a couple more years for complete resolution.  Eliminating bilingual education would do more to resolve the baleful effects of illegal immigration than almost anything else we could do, and that properly belongs at the state, not the federal level.   

Of the top three remaining candidates, Trump in actually the weakest on immigration.  He&#039;s said he doesn&#039;t believe visa overstays are a problem.  He&#039;s said, &quot;we deport all of them and then let the good ones back in.&quot;  What the hell does that mean?  He hasn&#039;t said anything about what happens next, just as he hasn&#039;t said anything about anything else except &quot;I&#039;m great and everything I do is great, therefore the country&#039;s going to be great.&quot;  And he&#039;s made unforgiveable statements about Putin, George W. Bush, and Israel, he&#039;s the last person a conservative should be supporting.

Since Rubio and Cruz are about equal on both the more important issues, the question comes done to who is more electable.  I always go back to William F. Buckley&#039;s prescription for elections, you pick&quot;the most conservative ELECTABLE candidate.&quot;

Yes, i would have preferred Fiorina or Carson.  (Yes, I would still like to see Fiorina as VP, Christie as Homeland Security or AG, and Cruz as AG or SCOTUS.)  But right now, the question has to be who can beat Hilary or Joe for president.  I think that&#039;s Rubio.  Yes, it shouldn&#039;t be, but personal attractiveness is much more important than two points on the ACU rating scale.  Why do you think Trump is going after Rubio&#039;s looks?  (Whatever you might say about Trump, he&#039;s no dummy!)

If you think Cruz or somebody else is more electable, tell me why.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert, Bob, you&#8217;re just flat-out wrong &#8212; Immigration is not the most important issue of this election, not by a long shot.  I&#8217;d rank it about sixth, after the gutting of the military, the feckless foreign policy of undercutting our friends and boosting our enemies, the refusal to deal with, even acknowlege, Islamic Fascism as an existential threat, the overregulation and overtaxation of the economy, and the grotesque overspending, utter ineptitude, and outrageous unconstitutional overreach by the federal government.</p>
<p>As to immigration, after securing the borders, controlling visa overstays, deporting criminals, implementing e-verify and other employment controls &#8212; as to which Cruz and Rubio are in agreement &#8212; we can work out the details of who gets to go and who to stay later.  Hell, you can&#8217;t even define what amnesty is, but you&#8217;re against it.</p>
<p>Illegal immigration has been an issue for decades, it can wait a couple more years for complete resolution.  Eliminating bilingual education would do more to resolve the baleful effects of illegal immigration than almost anything else we could do, and that properly belongs at the state, not the federal level.   </p>
<p>Of the top three remaining candidates, Trump in actually the weakest on immigration.  He&#8217;s said he doesn&#8217;t believe visa overstays are a problem.  He&#8217;s said, &#8220;we deport all of them and then let the good ones back in.&#8221;  What the hell does that mean?  He hasn&#8217;t said anything about what happens next, just as he hasn&#8217;t said anything about anything else except &#8220;I&#8217;m great and everything I do is great, therefore the country&#8217;s going to be great.&#8221;  And he&#8217;s made unforgiveable statements about Putin, George W. Bush, and Israel, he&#8217;s the last person a conservative should be supporting.</p>
<p>Since Rubio and Cruz are about equal on both the more important issues, the question comes done to who is more electable.  I always go back to William F. Buckley&#8217;s prescription for elections, you pick&#8221;the most conservative ELECTABLE candidate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, i would have preferred Fiorina or Carson.  (Yes, I would still like to see Fiorina as VP, Christie as Homeland Security or AG, and Cruz as AG or SCOTUS.)  But right now, the question has to be who can beat Hilary or Joe for president.  I think that&#8217;s Rubio.  Yes, it shouldn&#8217;t be, but personal attractiveness is much more important than two points on the ACU rating scale.  Why do you think Trump is going after Rubio&#8217;s looks?  (Whatever you might say about Trump, he&#8217;s no dummy!)</p>
<p>If you think Cruz or somebody else is more electable, tell me why.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 19:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[blert: &quot;No employer could afford to promptly lift their wages 100 to 300 percent.&quot;

When the illegals are all gone, what choice will the employers have? I live in a small community in a big ag area. The crops here that require a lot of manual labor are berries, flowers (bulbs), beans, apples, apricots, etc. About 25% of the population of the town I live in Is Hispanic. Some, I assume, are illegals. These are the people who do the necessary seasonal ag work.  But many of them also have jobs in local construction, government agencies (I assume those people are legal), and the hotel/motel business such as it is.  We have some sporadic gang problems, but for the most part the Hispanics I encounter blend right in to the local scene. I see and talk with a lot of younger Hispanics who work out at the gym where I work out. Most are respectful and friendly to me.

I have seen Mexifonia and read all that Victor Davis Hansen has written about the changes.
I have driven Highway One in California in recent years. It  does resemble driving in Mexico, just with better roads. In every business you encounter Hispanics, some who don&#039;t speak English all that well. It was a bit shocking to find every store in Solvang manned by Hispanics.

If you try to deport them all, it would be a huge job requiring a lot of manpower as well as the acceptance by all the bleeding heart liberals in the country. It will not be a smooth, process with all citizens accepting it.

When they are all deported, you will either see crops rotting in the fields or the prices will have to go up.  Maybe that is the price we have to pay to deport them. That&#039;s a question for  after the border is secured.

You keep referring to 1986. That was a comprehensive immigration law. The problem was the enforcement of the border was never implemented.  If the border is enforced first and proven under control over a period of years, then we can make a judgment about what to do with those who are still here.

&quot;Now holding legitimate political rights – the ex-aliens are no longer employable.

For they can EASILY pull down more in welfare benefits than they can earn in legitimate commerce.&quot; 

Is there any reason why we can&#039;t pass a law to deny welfare benefits to those who have only green cards status?  That is one of the issues to be decided after the border is closed. And that will be a difficult fight as well, because.....bleeding heart liberals.

Close the border and stop visa overstays. Unless those two things are done, deporting an illegal does no good at all. They will just slip back in as did the killer of Kate Steinle, Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez (Deported five times.).  After the border/visa overstays are under control, deport all the criminals. Then decide what to do with those who remain. Border and visa control first. It cannot be emphasized enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert: &#8220;No employer could afford to promptly lift their wages 100 to 300 percent.&#8221;</p>
<p>When the illegals are all gone, what choice will the employers have? I live in a small community in a big ag area. The crops here that require a lot of manual labor are berries, flowers (bulbs), beans, apples, apricots, etc. About 25% of the population of the town I live in Is Hispanic. Some, I assume, are illegals. These are the people who do the necessary seasonal ag work.  But many of them also have jobs in local construction, government agencies (I assume those people are legal), and the hotel/motel business such as it is.  We have some sporadic gang problems, but for the most part the Hispanics I encounter blend right in to the local scene. I see and talk with a lot of younger Hispanics who work out at the gym where I work out. Most are respectful and friendly to me.</p>
<p>I have seen Mexifonia and read all that Victor Davis Hansen has written about the changes.<br />
I have driven Highway One in California in recent years. It  does resemble driving in Mexico, just with better roads. In every business you encounter Hispanics, some who don&#8217;t speak English all that well. It was a bit shocking to find every store in Solvang manned by Hispanics.</p>
<p>If you try to deport them all, it would be a huge job requiring a lot of manpower as well as the acceptance by all the bleeding heart liberals in the country. It will not be a smooth, process with all citizens accepting it.</p>
<p>When they are all deported, you will either see crops rotting in the fields or the prices will have to go up.  Maybe that is the price we have to pay to deport them. That&#8217;s a question for  after the border is secured.</p>
<p>You keep referring to 1986. That was a comprehensive immigration law. The problem was the enforcement of the border was never implemented.  If the border is enforced first and proven under control over a period of years, then we can make a judgment about what to do with those who are still here.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now holding legitimate political rights – the ex-aliens are no longer employable.</p>
<p>For they can EASILY pull down more in welfare benefits than they can earn in legitimate commerce.&#8221; </p>
<p>Is there any reason why we can&#8217;t pass a law to deny welfare benefits to those who have only green cards status?  That is one of the issues to be decided after the border is closed. And that will be a difficult fight as well, because&#8230;..bleeding heart liberals.</p>
<p>Close the border and stop visa overstays. Unless those two things are done, deporting an illegal does no good at all. They will just slip back in as did the killer of Kate Steinle, Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez (Deported five times.).  After the border/visa overstays are under control, deport all the criminals. Then decide what to do with those who remain. Border and visa control first. It cannot be emphasized enough.</p>
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		By: tbroberg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 18:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I understand that it looks bad for the conservatives having Trump run the board early, but what&#039;s the rush to get one to concede?

As long as one of them folds and endorses the other before the winner-take-all states on 3/15, the proportional delegates accumulated before that can be used for either candidate.

On the other hand, if they split the vote in the winner-take-all&#039;s, they&#039;re doomed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that it looks bad for the conservatives having Trump run the board early, but what&#8217;s the rush to get one to concede?</p>
<p>As long as one of them folds and endorses the other before the winner-take-all states on 3/15, the proportional delegates accumulated before that can be used for either candidate.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if they split the vote in the winner-take-all&#8217;s, they&#8217;re doomed.</p>
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		By: geokstr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 14:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Becky Says: 
&quot;February 27th, 2016 at 11:15 pm
I do think republicans would be happy to put Cruz on the SC..&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
With 24 R Senate seats up vs 10 for the Ds, there is a strong possibility that the Marxists regain control. If that happens, Pres Rubio or Trump would face (at least) a two year long media circus spectacle over a Cruz nomination. Even if Schumer let the nominee out of committee, it would make the Bork and Thomas hearings - combined - look like a Mr Rodgers Neighborhood episode.

We&#039;d have to win the POTUS (50-50), then keep the Senate (very difficult), then actually pick up six Senate seats (next to impossible). If not, McConnell would have to be willing to employ the &quot;nuclear option&quot; and even if he did, Conservative Review only gives a dozen R Senators passing grades with 26 between 14% (Collins; Sanders is at 15%!) to 50%. It would only take a half dozen to side with the Democrats.

I think Cruz must have made a similar analysis. Maybe that&#039;s why I don&#039;t think he&#039;s going to get out of the race.

Rubio, OTOH, is going be under tremendous pressure from the entire GOPe not to settle for Cruz as the VP, as well as the recipient of several king&#039;s ransoms in donations.

Stalemate between them - checkmate for the attention whore.

We are effed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Becky Says:<br />
&#8220;February 27th, 2016 at 11:15 pm<br />
I do think republicans would be happy to put Cruz on the SC..&#8221;</i><br />
With 24 R Senate seats up vs 10 for the Ds, there is a strong possibility that the Marxists regain control. If that happens, Pres Rubio or Trump would face (at least) a two year long media circus spectacle over a Cruz nomination. Even if Schumer let the nominee out of committee, it would make the Bork and Thomas hearings &#8211; combined &#8211; look like a Mr Rodgers Neighborhood episode.</p>
<p>We&#8217;d have to win the POTUS (50-50), then keep the Senate (very difficult), then actually pick up six Senate seats (next to impossible). If not, McConnell would have to be willing to employ the &#8220;nuclear option&#8221; and even if he did, Conservative Review only gives a dozen R Senators passing grades with 26 between 14% (Collins; Sanders is at 15%!) to 50%. It would only take a half dozen to side with the Democrats.</p>
<p>I think Cruz must have made a similar analysis. Maybe that&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s going to get out of the race.</p>
<p>Rubio, OTOH, is going be under tremendous pressure from the entire GOPe not to settle for Cruz as the VP, as well as the recipient of several king&#8217;s ransoms in donations.</p>
<p>Stalemate between them &#8211; checkmate for the attention whore.</p>
<p>We are effed.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JJ,

Okay, what constitutes amnesty may be up for definition, but in the end we are talking about criminals who violated our immigration laws. However, I am willing, for practical purposes, to allow that a majority of those criminals  (who violated our immigration laws) should be allowed, baring any other crimes committed, to go to the back of the line to apply to legally reside in the USA. Not citizenship, but a green card.

But that is not what will happen. 1986 proved what I am saying is true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ,</p>
<p>Okay, what constitutes amnesty may be up for definition, but in the end we are talking about criminals who violated our immigration laws. However, I am willing, for practical purposes, to allow that a majority of those criminals  (who violated our immigration laws) should be allowed, baring any other crimes committed, to go to the back of the line to apply to legally reside in the USA. Not citizenship, but a green card.</p>
<p>But that is not what will happen. 1986 proved what I am saying is true.</p>
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		By: holmes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unity ticket with Cruz as the VP or Cruz SCOTUS deal after Tuesday. It&#039;s the only thing that will save the race.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unity ticket with Cruz as the VP or Cruz SCOTUS deal after Tuesday. It&#8217;s the only thing that will save the race.</p>
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		By: Becky		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do think republicans would be happy to put Cruz on the SC.. I read a lot of Trump supporters who dream of Cruz ether as VP or on the SC, and I think it is a thought that Cruz be an insurance policy to make sure Trump doesn&#039;t mess up too much.

I find myself getting irritated with Carson. 

 I plan to continue through this year to vote for Cruz in the primary and the general, even if I have to write in. 

I saw on another site, someone was going to write themselves in as part of a bucket list.  That&#039;s a thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think republicans would be happy to put Cruz on the SC.. I read a lot of Trump supporters who dream of Cruz ether as VP or on the SC, and I think it is a thought that Cruz be an insurance policy to make sure Trump doesn&#8217;t mess up too much.</p>
<p>I find myself getting irritated with Carson. </p>
<p> I plan to continue through this year to vote for Cruz in the primary and the general, even if I have to write in. </p>
<p>I saw on another site, someone was going to write themselves in as part of a bucket list.  That&#8217;s a thought.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 02:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rubio and Cruz are both taking a risk.
Many say that in order to beat Trump, you have to actually BEAT him (figuratively, of course). You have to attack him head on.
The problem with that is when Christie did it to Rubio, all it did was drag both of their numbers down.

Rubio is betting he can attack Trump and come away with a benefit for doing it. Cruz may benefit from NOT being the one to attack Trump.

OTOH, maybe both of them are attacking Trump and it&#039;s just that Rubio is getting the lion&#039;s share of the coverage.
The MSM seems to be holding a partial embargo of Cruz to make sure he doesn&#039;t look too good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rubio and Cruz are both taking a risk.<br />
Many say that in order to beat Trump, you have to actually BEAT him (figuratively, of course). You have to attack him head on.<br />
The problem with that is when Christie did it to Rubio, all it did was drag both of their numbers down.</p>
<p>Rubio is betting he can attack Trump and come away with a benefit for doing it. Cruz may benefit from NOT being the one to attack Trump.</p>
<p>OTOH, maybe both of them are attacking Trump and it&#8217;s just that Rubio is getting the lion&#8217;s share of the coverage.<br />
The MSM seems to be holding a partial embargo of Cruz to make sure he doesn&#8217;t look too good.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David Aitken said:
&quot;Much as I like Cruz, I think he should work a deal with Rubio where Cruz drops out in return for the SCOTUS nomination if Rubio wins.&quot;

That&#039;s been floated online, but it&#039;s unrealistic. Cruz is an actual conservative. His nomination would be fought to the bitter end by Democrats.
Compared to their implacable hatred, what good would be the GOP&#039;s tepid support?
Does anyone think Mitch &quot;Liar&quot; McConnell would go to the mat for Cruz?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Aitken said:<br />
&#8220;Much as I like Cruz, I think he should work a deal with Rubio where Cruz drops out in return for the SCOTUS nomination if Rubio wins.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s been floated online, but it&#8217;s unrealistic. Cruz is an actual conservative. His nomination would be fought to the bitter end by Democrats.<br />
Compared to their implacable hatred, what good would be the GOP&#8217;s tepid support?<br />
Does anyone think Mitch &#8220;Liar&#8221; McConnell would go to the mat for Cruz?</p>
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