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		By: Glen H		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/26/more-post-debate-ruminations/#comment-976140</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glen H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Feb 2016 19:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;It strikes me, and not for the first time, that the Trump candidacy may represent the death knell of conservatism, probably for a long time in this country, maybe forever.&quot;

Forever is a long time. In politics, especially, nothing is forever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It strikes me, and not for the first time, that the Trump candidacy may represent the death knell of conservatism, probably for a long time in this country, maybe forever.&#8221;</p>
<p>Forever is a long time. In politics, especially, nothing is forever.</p>
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		By: mikeII		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/26/more-post-debate-ruminations/#comment-975346</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 15:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry Holmes,
You need to find Sherlock for the rest of the story. Levin was never a supported of Trump. I think you are thinking of Savage.
Levin was glad that Trump was able to confound eGOP and MSM. But he always said Trump was no Conservative. 

Try to get your facts straight the next time. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Holmes,<br />
You need to find Sherlock for the rest of the story. Levin was never a supported of Trump. I think you are thinking of Savage.<br />
Levin was glad that Trump was able to confound eGOP and MSM. But he always said Trump was no Conservative. </p>
<p>Try to get your facts straight the next time. 🙂</p>
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		By: holmes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/26/more-post-debate-ruminations/#comment-975037</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Mike II

Mike- that speaking two things in two different languages was debunked by many people including Sarah Rumpf. It&#039;s horsecrap.

As is Levin who was all about Trump for months until he wasn&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mike II</p>
<p>Mike- that speaking two things in two different languages was debunked by many people including Sarah Rumpf. It&#8217;s horsecrap.</p>
<p>As is Levin who was all about Trump for months until he wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: geokstr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/26/more-post-debate-ruminations/#comment-975009</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 03:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for that link. Iwon&#039;t. I remember the story of Yeltsin blowing his entire ideology in the supermarket and doing a lightning fast neo.

I also recall the USSR  warning their trade orgs, cultural committees, exchange students and the rare tourist not to mention what life was really like here when they returned home.

I had forgotten that clip from &quot;Moscow on the Hudson&quot; where Robin Williams collapses in disbelief walking down the coffee aisle. Funny and on point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that link. Iwon&#8217;t. I remember the story of Yeltsin blowing his entire ideology in the supermarket and doing a lightning fast neo.</p>
<p>I also recall the USSR  warning their trade orgs, cultural committees, exchange students and the rare tourist not to mention what life was really like here when they returned home.</p>
<p>I had forgotten that clip from &#8220;Moscow on the Hudson&#8221; where Robin Williams collapses in disbelief walking down the coffee aisle. Funny and on point.</p>
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		By: I won't submit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/26/more-post-debate-ruminations/#comment-974817</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;And if the US goes, so does the rest of Gaia. One of the things that was a partial reason for the collapse of the USER was Radio Free Europe and broadcast TV that told the Russian people that their government was lying and they learned about&lt;/i&gt; &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicksontheright.com/the-moment-a-russian-leader-realized-communism-sucks-monkeyballs/&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;supermarkets with shelves overflowing with goods in the evil capitalist countries.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And if the US goes, so does the rest of Gaia. One of the things that was a partial reason for the collapse of the USER was Radio Free Europe and broadcast TV that told the Russian people that their government was lying and they learned about</i> <b><a href="http://www.chicksontheright.com/the-moment-a-russian-leader-realized-communism-sucks-monkeyballs/" title="" rel="nofollow">supermarkets with shelves overflowing with goods in the evil capitalist countries.</a></b></p>
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		By: geokstr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/26/more-post-debate-ruminations/#comment-974803</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 20:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Judith L. Says: 
&quot;No doubt the conservative movement will enter the wilderness if Trump is the nominee, much less elected. But conservatism is rooted in a realistic assessment of human nature. It might go underground, but hard, cold reality is on its side.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
I wish I could agree with that, Judith. Perhaps it&#039;s just me being a cynic, but is that the way it worked anywhere that Marxism has been able to gain sufficient power?

&quot;Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.&quot; - 1984

One reason we have such a large % of Americans who now favor socialism is because Marxists &quot;historians&quot; and textbooks, along with their useful idiots in the media, have revised the past to disappear the 100 million slaughtered in their utopias that also crushed the liberties of the rest. Even the present is manipulated by selective &quot;reporting&quot; of the &quot;news&quot;.

In the USSR they had a system of spies on every block to turn in everyone guilty of thoughtcrimes, and even encouraged children to report their parents. That was when there wasn&#039;t even any spytech at all. How does even the memory of conservatism survive in such an environment, when even &quot;reality&quot; is strictly controlled?

And if the US goes, so does the rest of Gaia. One of the things that was a partial reason for the collapse of the USER was Radio Free Europe and broadcast TV that told the Russian people that their government was lying and they learned about supermarkets with shelves overflowing with goods in the evil capitalist countries.

If there are no countries that will broadcast such badthink, conservatism is dead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Judith L. Says:<br />
&#8220;No doubt the conservative movement will enter the wilderness if Trump is the nominee, much less elected. But conservatism is rooted in a realistic assessment of human nature. It might go underground, but hard, cold reality is on its side.&#8221;</i><br />
I wish I could agree with that, Judith. Perhaps it&#8217;s just me being a cynic, but is that the way it worked anywhere that Marxism has been able to gain sufficient power?</p>
<p>&#8220;Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.&#8221; &#8211; 1984</p>
<p>One reason we have such a large % of Americans who now favor socialism is because Marxists &#8220;historians&#8221; and textbooks, along with their useful idiots in the media, have revised the past to disappear the 100 million slaughtered in their utopias that also crushed the liberties of the rest. Even the present is manipulated by selective &#8220;reporting&#8221; of the &#8220;news&#8221;.</p>
<p>In the USSR they had a system of spies on every block to turn in everyone guilty of thoughtcrimes, and even encouraged children to report their parents. That was when there wasn&#8217;t even any spytech at all. How does even the memory of conservatism survive in such an environment, when even &#8220;reality&#8221; is strictly controlled?</p>
<p>And if the US goes, so does the rest of Gaia. One of the things that was a partial reason for the collapse of the USER was Radio Free Europe and broadcast TV that told the Russian people that their government was lying and they learned about supermarkets with shelves overflowing with goods in the evil capitalist countries.</p>
<p>If there are no countries that will broadcast such badthink, conservatism is dead.</p>
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		By: I won't submit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/26/more-post-debate-ruminations/#comment-974795</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 20:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;Czech president Vé¡clav Klaus&quot; quote was originally written by:
 &lt;a href=&quot;http://theabundantgift.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post.html&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gary Beasley&lt;/a&gt;

Also see here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://thoselegends.blogspot.com/2012/09/prince-of-fools-fake-quote-of-century.html&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prince-of-fools-fake-quote-of-century&lt;/a&gt;

They did it TWICE!
May the flies of 10,000 camels infest their armpits and the fleas of all the dogs in the world infest their mustaches!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Czech president Vé¡clav Klaus&#8221; quote was originally written by:<br />
 <a href="http://theabundantgift.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post.html" title="" rel="nofollow">Gary Beasley</a></p>
<p>Also see here:<br />
<a href="http://thoselegends.blogspot.com/2012/09/prince-of-fools-fake-quote-of-century.html" title="" rel="nofollow">Prince-of-fools-fake-quote-of-century</a></p>
<p>They did it TWICE!<br />
May the flies of 10,000 camels infest their armpits and the fleas of all the dogs in the world infest their mustaches!</p>
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		By: MikeII		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/26/more-post-debate-ruminations/#comment-974779</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 20:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo: I did go back and read what you suggested :-) And I&#039;m in agreement here-
neo-neocon Says: 
I don’t “trust” Rubio. I am willing to support him if he is the front runner, because I trust him 10,000 times more than I trust Hillary. Or rather, I know what she will do, and Rubio is better on almost every issue other than immigration–and he’s even better on that.&quot;

I just wish we had more Principled Statesmen running and fewer political hacks. But perhaps the quote below is true. It seems more and more people while unhappy with their own lot in life are comfortable with directing their energies toward insuring their neighbors are just as miserable as they are instead of trying to fix the problem.  :-( 
Time for this working ant to get back to work so some grasshopper in the future can listen to some pied piper when he/she says- He didn&#039;t earn that, he stole it from your ancestors. :-)

&quot;Every country has the government it deserves,&quot;

quotation by Joseph de Maistre: &quot;Every country has the government it deserves (Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite&quot;) One of the sources below gives its origin as de Maistre&#039;s Lettres et Opuscules Inédits vol. 1, letter 53, written on 15 August 1811 and published in 1851.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo: I did go back and read what you suggested 🙂 And I&#8217;m in agreement here-<br />
neo-neocon Says:<br />
I don’t “trust” Rubio. I am willing to support him if he is the front runner, because I trust him 10,000 times more than I trust Hillary. Or rather, I know what she will do, and Rubio is better on almost every issue other than immigration–and he’s even better on that.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just wish we had more Principled Statesmen running and fewer political hacks. But perhaps the quote below is true. It seems more and more people while unhappy with their own lot in life are comfortable with directing their energies toward insuring their neighbors are just as miserable as they are instead of trying to fix the problem.  🙁<br />
Time for this working ant to get back to work so some grasshopper in the future can listen to some pied piper when he/she says- He didn&#8217;t earn that, he stole it from your ancestors. 🙂</p>
<p>&#8220;Every country has the government it deserves,&#8221;</p>
<p>quotation by Joseph de Maistre: &#8220;Every country has the government it deserves (Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite&#8221;) One of the sources below gives its origin as de Maistre&#8217;s Lettres et Opuscules Inédits vol. 1, letter 53, written on 15 August 1811 and published in 1851.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/26/more-post-debate-ruminations/#comment-974744</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 18:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MikeII:

How do I square it?  The reasoning about it &lt;a href=&quot;http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/01/the-conservative-case-for-marco-rubio/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, plus &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jun/20/dana-rohrabacher/rep-dana-rohrabacher-says-sen-marco-rubios-claims-/
&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and especially the conversation I had in the comments section that starts &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2016/02/20/today-is-the-south-carolina-primary/#comment-968962&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; with a commenter&#039;s statement, and then continues with a lot of back and forth with me on the subject.  Just keep scrolling down and reading.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeII:</p>
<p>How do I square it?  The reasoning about it <a href="http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/01/the-conservative-case-for-marco-rubio/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, plus <a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jun/20/dana-rohrabacher/rep-dana-rohrabacher-says-sen-marco-rubios-claims-/
">this</a> and especially the conversation I had in the comments section that starts <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2016/02/20/today-is-the-south-carolina-primary/#comment-968962" rel="nofollow">here</a> with a commenter&#8217;s statement, and then continues with a lot of back and forth with me on the subject.  Just keep scrolling down and reading.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 18:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ROPWA:

Thanks for the heads-up.

No one seems to know where the quote comes from, but it&#039;s not Klaus, or at least there&#039;s zero evidence for it coming from him.

Spot on quote, though.  Wonder where it does come from.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROPWA:</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads-up.</p>
<p>No one seems to know where the quote comes from, but it&#8217;s not Klaus, or at least there&#8217;s zero evidence for it coming from him.</p>
<p>Spot on quote, though.  Wonder where it does come from.</p>
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