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		By: geokstr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/23/today-nevada-and-musings-on-conservatism-the-gop-and-the-establishment/#comment-972507</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Geoffrey:
&quot;If Cruz somehow pulls off the nomination, he’ll get minimal backing from the GOP and if he somehow beats the democrat, they’ll hamstring him in Congress...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
There is plenty that a President Cruz could do to begin to right the ship that Congress would have little control over: rescinding all the Executive Orders/Memos issued by Obama, back ICE in enforcing the law, use what&#039;s left in the already appropriated monies for the &quot;fence&quot; to keep building it, reverse the adversarial relationship Obama has caused between the federal agencies and the states re: immigration, voter ID, environmental regulation, education and much more,   open the floodgates on the thousands of FOIAs that have been slow-walked and stonewalled by Obama, open or re-open FBI investigations into the many Obama scandals, begin weeding out the thousands of left wing radicals Obama, Holder and Obama&#039;s agency heads have hired into all the top civil service positions throughout the federal government, re-establish friendly relationships with our allies, stop backing Hamas, Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood, stop forcing lenders to make &quot;diversity&quot; mortgage loans again, which by the way, has been going on for some time already, have his agency heads look for ways to cut their budgets, tightening up the auditing of areas particularly rife with fraud...

This stream-of-consciousness listing is already getting overly lengthy, so I&#039;ll end it there for now. Every item I thought of led to several more, and the eventual listing would keep President Cruz busy well into his fourth term. 

With his spare time, he could be going directly to the American people,telling them what he&#039;s doing and why, and asking them to put pressure on Congress to pass laws he needed to do even more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Geoffrey:<br />
&#8220;If Cruz somehow pulls off the nomination, he’ll get minimal backing from the GOP and if he somehow beats the democrat, they’ll hamstring him in Congress&#8230;&#8221;</i><br />
There is plenty that a President Cruz could do to begin to right the ship that Congress would have little control over: rescinding all the Executive Orders/Memos issued by Obama, back ICE in enforcing the law, use what&#8217;s left in the already appropriated monies for the &#8220;fence&#8221; to keep building it, reverse the adversarial relationship Obama has caused between the federal agencies and the states re: immigration, voter ID, environmental regulation, education and much more,   open the floodgates on the thousands of FOIAs that have been slow-walked and stonewalled by Obama, open or re-open FBI investigations into the many Obama scandals, begin weeding out the thousands of left wing radicals Obama, Holder and Obama&#8217;s agency heads have hired into all the top civil service positions throughout the federal government, re-establish friendly relationships with our allies, stop backing Hamas, Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood, stop forcing lenders to make &#8220;diversity&#8221; mortgage loans again, which by the way, has been going on for some time already, have his agency heads look for ways to cut their budgets, tightening up the auditing of areas particularly rife with fraud&#8230;</p>
<p>This stream-of-consciousness listing is already getting overly lengthy, so I&#8217;ll end it there for now. Every item I thought of led to several more, and the eventual listing would keep President Cruz busy well into his fourth term. </p>
<p>With his spare time, he could be going directly to the American people,telling them what he&#8217;s doing and why, and asking them to put pressure on Congress to pass laws he needed to do even more.</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies&#8230;.Ladies&#8230;.!! Put the coffee down and step away from the mugs&#8230;There&#8230;Goooood&#8230;.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/02/23/today-nevada-and-musings-on-conservatism-the-gop-and-the-establishment/#comment-971971</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 05:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann:

Excuse me, but that seems absurd to me.

You pick one small and rather innocuous phrase out of an entire interview where he&#039;s fairly clear about what he was saying both before and after it, and you read his mind on that? 

The phrase &quot;of course you would&quot;?  That&#039;s supposed to mislead, when he has already said in the statement &lt;i&gt;just prior to that&lt;/i&gt; that &quot; We should triple the border patrol and Federal Law requires that anyone here illegally &lt;i&gt;that is apprehended&lt;/i&gt; should be deported&quot;?  He has made it clear what he&#039;s talking about, and he assumes that O&#039;Reilly is asking a follow-up question.  

And then, right after the phrase &quot;of course you would&quot; (and by &quot;right after,&quot; I mean the next sentences) Cruz says, &quot;...of course you would. That is what ICE exists for. We have law enforcement that looks for people, who are violating the law that apprehends them and deports them.&quot;

He is again referring back to people who are already apprehended---he is describing enforcing the current system, and enforcing it on people who are apprehended.

That seems to be the meaning of the words there. I don&#039;t see any reversal, or any intent to mislead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann:</p>
<p>Excuse me, but that seems absurd to me.</p>
<p>You pick one small and rather innocuous phrase out of an entire interview where he&#8217;s fairly clear about what he was saying both before and after it, and you read his mind on that? </p>
<p>The phrase &#8220;of course you would&#8221;?  That&#8217;s supposed to mislead, when he has already said in the statement <i>just prior to that</i> that &#8221; We should triple the border patrol and Federal Law requires that anyone here illegally <i>that is apprehended</i> should be deported&#8221;?  He has made it clear what he&#8217;s talking about, and he assumes that O&#8217;Reilly is asking a follow-up question.  </p>
<p>And then, right after the phrase &#8220;of course you would&#8221; (and by &#8220;right after,&#8221; I mean the next sentences) Cruz says, &#8220;&#8230;of course you would. That is what ICE exists for. We have law enforcement that looks for people, who are violating the law that apprehends them and deports them.&#8221;</p>
<p>He is again referring back to people who are already apprehended&#8212;he is describing enforcing the current system, and enforcing it on people who are apprehended.</p>
<p>That seems to be the meaning of the words there. I don&#8217;t see any reversal, or any intent to mislead.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 04:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I quoted from that transcript, Neo. I also watched the full video.

What I&#039;m saying is that I believe Cruz deliberately tried to leave the impression he&#039;s more like Trump than Trumpsters give him credit for -- it&#039;s that short &quot;Bill, of course you would&quot; that was meant to do that. I read all the rest and I really do get all the nuances in his position, but with that short bit he meant to deceive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quoted from that transcript, Neo. I also watched the full video.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is that I believe Cruz deliberately tried to leave the impression he&#8217;s more like Trump than Trumpsters give him credit for &#8212; it&#8217;s that short &#8220;Bill, of course you would&#8221; that was meant to do that. I read all the rest and I really do get all the nuances in his position, but with that short bit he meant to deceive.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 04:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann:

Did you read the transcript I already linked and told you to look at?  Did you read anything I already wrote you in my earlier comment

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2016/02/23/ted-cruz-on-his-illegal-immigration-stance/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here it is&lt;/a&gt; [emphasis mine]:
&lt;blockquote&gt; CRUZ: Listen. We should enforce the law. How do we enforce the law. Yes, we should deport them. We should build the wall. We should triple the border patrol and Federal Law requires that &lt;i&gt;anyone here illegally that is &lt;b&gt;apprehended&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; should be deported. It is the greatest difference, Bill.

O&#039;REILLY: Mr. Trump would look for them to get them out. Would you do that if you everywhere President?

CRUZ: Look. Bill, of course you would. That is what ICE exists for. &lt;i&gt;We have law enforcement that looks for people, who are violating the law that apprehends them and deports them.&lt;/i&gt;[here, he is saying law enforcement looking for people who violate the law in general, not immigration law only---he means illegals who are picked up for other violations should be deported, whereas at present they are not] 

O&#039;REILLY: Just let me get this straight.

CRUZ: But, Bill --

O&#039;REILLY: Wait, wait. Just let me get this straight, because this is important, very important. So, I use the same example. So, Tommy O&#039;Malley from County Cork in Ireland is over here and he overstays &lt;i&gt;his visa&lt;/i&gt; and he has got a couple of kids and he settled into Long Island. And, you, President Cruz are going to send the Feds to his house, take him out and put him on a plane back to Ireland? [now O&#039;Reilly, who is not a lawyer, has mixed apples and oranges and introduced a whole other topic, visa violations, on which all the candidates have already said the rules should be tightened and visa overstays should not be allowed]

CRUZ: You better believe that right now we actually cannot do that, because we do not have a biometric exit-entry system. [he is clearly talking about visas here, you see] So, we do not know what in your example Tommy gets home.

O&#039;REILLY: Right, you cannot find them, but you require that. But, then the court would probably block you. Look, I am sorry to cut you off, but I want to get to the meat of this. The federal courts would probably block you from doing that, taking Mr. O&#039;Malley and put him on a plane --

CRUZ: Why would they do that?

O&#039;REILLY: Because due process.

CRUZ: Why would they do that?

O&#039;REILLY: Due process.

CRUZ: No. No. Listen, I have spent my entire process as a constitutional lawyer. So, federal law requires a biometric entry-exit system on &lt;i&gt;visas&lt;/i&gt;. [you see, they are continuing to talk about visas here] The Obama Administration refuses to enforce federal law. As President, I will put that in place, so we will know the day someone overstays their visa, we will be able to send law enforcement to apprehend them and send them home...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He is saying anyone here who is &lt;i&gt;apprehended&lt;/i&gt; should be deported.  In other words (and I already explained this), like virtually all the other candidates, he says that if someone is picked up by the police for some sort of offense, they should be deported.  He is NOT advocating a special &quot;round em all up&quot; program. In the context of the interview that should be clear to the listener. 

And then they segue to visas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann:</p>
<p>Did you read the transcript I already linked and told you to look at?  Did you read anything I already wrote you in my earlier comment</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2016/02/23/ted-cruz-on-his-illegal-immigration-stance/" rel="nofollow">Here it is</a> [emphasis mine]:</p>
<blockquote><p> CRUZ: Listen. We should enforce the law. How do we enforce the law. Yes, we should deport them. We should build the wall. We should triple the border patrol and Federal Law requires that <i>anyone here illegally that is <b>apprehended</b></i> should be deported. It is the greatest difference, Bill.</p>
<p>O&#8217;REILLY: Mr. Trump would look for them to get them out. Would you do that if you everywhere President?</p>
<p>CRUZ: Look. Bill, of course you would. That is what ICE exists for. <i>We have law enforcement that looks for people, who are violating the law that apprehends them and deports them.</i>[here, he is saying law enforcement looking for people who violate the law in general, not immigration law only&#8212;he means illegals who are picked up for other violations should be deported, whereas at present they are not] </p>
<p>O&#8217;REILLY: Just let me get this straight.</p>
<p>CRUZ: But, Bill &#8212;</p>
<p>O&#8217;REILLY: Wait, wait. Just let me get this straight, because this is important, very important. So, I use the same example. So, Tommy O&#8217;Malley from County Cork in Ireland is over here and he overstays <i>his visa</i> and he has got a couple of kids and he settled into Long Island. And, you, President Cruz are going to send the Feds to his house, take him out and put him on a plane back to Ireland? [now O&#8217;Reilly, who is not a lawyer, has mixed apples and oranges and introduced a whole other topic, visa violations, on which all the candidates have already said the rules should be tightened and visa overstays should not be allowed]</p>
<p>CRUZ: You better believe that right now we actually cannot do that, because we do not have a biometric exit-entry system. [he is clearly talking about visas here, you see] So, we do not know what in your example Tommy gets home.</p>
<p>O&#8217;REILLY: Right, you cannot find them, but you require that. But, then the court would probably block you. Look, I am sorry to cut you off, but I want to get to the meat of this. The federal courts would probably block you from doing that, taking Mr. O&#8217;Malley and put him on a plane &#8212;</p>
<p>CRUZ: Why would they do that?</p>
<p>O&#8217;REILLY: Because due process.</p>
<p>CRUZ: Why would they do that?</p>
<p>O&#8217;REILLY: Due process.</p>
<p>CRUZ: No. No. Listen, I have spent my entire process as a constitutional lawyer. So, federal law requires a biometric entry-exit system on <i>visas</i>. [you see, they are continuing to talk about visas here] The Obama Administration refuses to enforce federal law. As President, I will put that in place, so we will know the day someone overstays their visa, we will be able to send law enforcement to apprehend them and send them home&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>He is saying anyone here who is <i>apprehended</i> should be deported.  In other words (and I already explained this), like virtually all the other candidates, he says that if someone is picked up by the police for some sort of offense, they should be deported.  He is NOT advocating a special &#8220;round em all up&#8221; program. In the context of the interview that should be clear to the listener. </p>
<p>And then they segue to visas.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 03:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;O&#039;REILLY: Mr. Trump would look for them to get them out. Would you do that if you were President?

CRUZ: Look. Bill, of course you would. That is what ICE exists for. We have law enforcement that looks for people, who are violating the law that apprehends them and deports them.&lt;/i&gt;

That &quot;Bill, of course you would&quot; in response to O&#039;Reilly&#039;s &quot;Trump would look for them to get them out. Would you do that if your were President?&quot; is Cruz trying to appeal to the Trumpsters by making it sound as if he, too, like Trump would go looking for illegals in an aggressive way. Talk about spin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>O&#8217;REILLY: Mr. Trump would look for them to get them out. Would you do that if you were President?</p>
<p>CRUZ: Look. Bill, of course you would. That is what ICE exists for. We have law enforcement that looks for people, who are violating the law that apprehends them and deports them.</i></p>
<p>That &#8220;Bill, of course you would&#8221; in response to O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s &#8220;Trump would look for them to get them out. Would you do that if your were President?&#8221; is Cruz trying to appeal to the Trumpsters by making it sound as if he, too, like Trump would go looking for illegals in an aggressive way. Talk about spin.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann...Take note, Babycakes: parker is a higher form of political animal than thee(and me!!) due to his presence in Nevada selflessly and superiorly campaigning for Teddy. High Minded, I tell&#039;ya.

ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann&#8230;Take note, Babycakes: parker is a higher form of political animal than thee(and me!!) due to his presence in Nevada selflessly and superiorly campaigning for Teddy. High Minded, I tell&#8217;ya.</p>
<p>ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann,

You pay attention to sound bits. I will refrain from speculating on why beyond your Rubio agenda. BTW, I am in Reno after 3 days campaigning for Cruz. Where are you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann,</p>
<p>You pay attention to sound bits. I will refrain from speculating on why beyond your Rubio agenda. BTW, I am in Reno after 3 days campaigning for Cruz. Where are you?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain:  who are the &quot;GOP Establishment&quot; and exactly how have they pivoted to Rubio?  I saw Reince Priebus on TV the other night and he certainly was as dumbfounded and confused as anybody on what the hell is going on and what to do about it.

You are right that a majority (I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s a great majority, but it&#039;s certainly a majority) of Americans are not loyal to the Constitution.  But how the hell is that the fault of the &quot;GOP Establishment,&quot; whoever they may be?  I&#039;d say it&#039;s an inherent aspect of human nature -- a republic, and the Constitution, are just too hard for most people to understand and follow.  They want to be told what to do by a strongman and be taken care of cradle to grave.  But if you want to blame somebody, blame the leftists who seized control of our schools and our media 40 or 50 years ago.  How did the &quot;GOP Establishment&quot; cause that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain:  who are the &#8220;GOP Establishment&#8221; and exactly how have they pivoted to Rubio?  I saw Reince Priebus on TV the other night and he certainly was as dumbfounded and confused as anybody on what the hell is going on and what to do about it.</p>
<p>You are right that a majority (I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s a great majority, but it&#8217;s certainly a majority) of Americans are not loyal to the Constitution.  But how the hell is that the fault of the &#8220;GOP Establishment,&#8221; whoever they may be?  I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s an inherent aspect of human nature &#8212; a republic, and the Constitution, are just too hard for most people to understand and follow.  They want to be told what to do by a strongman and be taken care of cradle to grave.  But if you want to blame somebody, blame the leftists who seized control of our schools and our media 40 or 50 years ago.  How did the &#8220;GOP Establishment&#8221; cause that?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cornhead -- there&#039;s not a snowball&#039;s chance in hell that birthright citizenship will be overturned.  While I happen to agree that a good argument could be made that children of persons in the country illegally should not automatically be citizens at birth, there is no federal court, and probably few state courts, which would even touch the notion with a 10-foot pole.  And since the case, if brought in a state court, would immediately be removed to federal court as implicating a federal right, there is no chance of it happening.  Sorry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornhead &#8212; there&#8217;s not a snowball&#8217;s chance in hell that birthright citizenship will be overturned.  While I happen to agree that a good argument could be made that children of persons in the country illegally should not automatically be citizens at birth, there is no federal court, and probably few state courts, which would even touch the notion with a 10-foot pole.  And since the case, if brought in a state court, would immediately be removed to federal court as implicating a federal right, there is no chance of it happening.  Sorry.</p>
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