It’s one thing to ignore polls that say your guy is ahead, because you’re afraid of being disappointed. It’s even understandable to ignore polls that say your guy isn’t ahead, and to keep hoping.

But—considering that you’re not a Trump supporter, at least that’s my understanding (I haven’t gone back and read everything you’ve written on him, so correct me if I’m wrong)—why would you ignore the polls that say that Trump is dead last in the general as compared to ALL the other GOP candidates, and why would you say instead that Trump’s the only hope of winning? That’s not just ignoring all the polls, it’s flipping them on their head to say the opposite of what you want. Why do that? There’s no logic whatsoever to it. Have the Trumpers brainwashed you by repeating it over and over? Seriously, I don’t understand.

But that’s not what my question was.

I understand that Cruz may lose, and isn’t a charismatic guy, and that his conservatism (or what most people have been told of his conservatism) may be too extreme for a lot of people. That’s why I’m torn between him and Rubio, among others.

But my point—and I’ll repeat it—was that Trump is less electable, for completely different reasons:

Since indications are that Trump would get creamed in a general election against all the Democrat possibilities, and that Cruz has a chance of winning a general election against the members of that same group, I have no idea why you would say Trump is “the only way for us to win.” I am convinced he is not only the best and most certain way for us to lose, but the worst candidate of all those standing on that stage.

I do not understand this strange persistence of the myth that Trump has the best chance, even from people who don’t like him. It is illogical. All polls indicate Cruz has a better chance. And he’s the better man by far. Trump’s unfavorables are sky high. He also consistently gets the highest “will not vote for” scores by far. And it’s not as though people are not familiar with him. They’re very familiar with him, and they’ve either liked or hated him for years.

That’s what I wrote in my earlier comment. I’ve written posts on the subject, too. I don’t know how to say it more simply and clearly and succinctly, but I’ll try: all signs point to the fact that Trump would have an even worse chance of being elected than Cruz would. So why do you ignore these facts? It’s been true for all the polls for months and months and months. Trump always does the worst in a general against ALL the Democratic contenders, and his unfavorables are stable and sky-high. What’s more, Cruz does better, and if you think polls are rigged or fixed in some way, why would they be rigged to uniformly and falsely favor Cruz, of all people?

That’s why.

Since indications are that Trump would get creamed in a general election against all the Democrat possibilities, and that Cruz has a chance of winning a general election against the members of that same group, I have no idea why you would say Trump is “the only way for us to win.” I am convinced he is not only the best and most certain way for us to lose, but the worst candidate of all those standing on that stage.

I do not understand this strange persistence of the myth that Trump has the best chance, even from people who don’t like him. It is illogical. All polls indicate Cruz has a better chance. And he’s the better man by far. Trump’s unfavorables are sky high. He also consistently gets the highest “will not vote for” scores by far. And it’s not as though people are not familiar with him. They’re very familiar with him, and they’ve either liked or hated him for years.

I’ve been told by people with better political sense than I that a fat man can’t be elected president in the age of television. Bush and Kasich are just two whiney schlemiels. That leaves Fiorina and Carson and I don’t think either of them can get the nod, and the Donald. Much as I am appalled, he looks like the only way for us to win.

Always remember bho operates by the chicago way.

That was perfectly good bourbon, too. (wipes tears)

Sanders is just not electable.

The GOP may, unintentionally (Rubio) or intentionally (Cruz) engineer its own collapse in voter turnout.

Obama wants Hillary out of the race but his successor will need the votes of her supporters, thus the incremental leaks, a “death by a thousand cuts” email revelations. Much of the mass media is cooperating with Obama’s strategy.

If Hillary drops out, it will either be to avoid a DOJ indictment or before indictment, to secure a secret, previously agreed to Presidential pardon.

In such a case, despite their negatives, drafting a Biden/Warren ticket, becomes IMO, a certainty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8kPqAV_74M

(Warning: disturbing)