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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/01/14/tonights-debate-3/#comment-953872</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2016 04:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[clarityseeker Says: 
January 15th, 2016 at 11:03 am
In Chaos Theory, the butterfly effect is the name given to the sensitive connection between initial conditions in which an insignificant event in one state in non-linear systems, can result in sometimes catastrophic events in the universal state

In other words, although unlikely, it is possible for a butterfly flapping its wings in Texas to cause a typhoon in the Japanese Sea.

Case in point, in mid-20th Century America, an 18 year old hippie freshman in a Honolulu college had sex with an older, alcoholic Kenyan on a student visa, who had a wife and child back in Africa. And this less than significant event started the collapse and dissolution of the United States of America.
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Interesting metaphor -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clarityseeker Says:<br />
January 15th, 2016 at 11:03 am<br />
In Chaos Theory, the butterfly effect is the name given to the sensitive connection between initial conditions in which an insignificant event in one state in non-linear systems, can result in sometimes catastrophic events in the universal state</p>
<p>In other words, although unlikely, it is possible for a butterfly flapping its wings in Texas to cause a typhoon in the Japanese Sea.</p>
<p>Case in point, in mid-20th Century America, an 18 year old hippie freshman in a Honolulu college had sex with an older, alcoholic Kenyan on a student visa, who had a wife and child back in Africa. And this less than significant event started the collapse and dissolution of the United States of America.<br />
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Interesting metaphor &#8211;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2016/01/14/tonights-debate-3/#comment-953870</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2016 04:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Carson is just too nice to be President. I love the man, but POTUS has to be far more ruthless than he seems.&quot;

I listened to Carson&#039;s answers in the previous debate, about ISIS particularly, and I think he can be quite tough if needed.
Brain surgery is not for the faint of heart.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Carson is just too nice to be President. I love the man, but POTUS has to be far more ruthless than he seems.&#8221;</p>
<p>I listened to Carson&#8217;s answers in the previous debate, about ISIS particularly, and I think he can be quite tough if needed.<br />
Brain surgery is not for the faint of heart.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 19:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There seems to be something about Donald Trump that brings out the inner 5-year old in moderators and candidates alike.  

&quot;He called you a potato-head!&quot;
&quot;Did not!&quot;
&quot;Did too!&quot;
&quot;Well, he&#039;s a fatso!&quot;
&quot;Is not!&quot;
&quot;Is too!&quot;
&quot;Oh, yeah!  Well, your mother is ugly!&quot;
&quot;Your mother is even uglier!&quot;

Really?  Is that the best we can do?

At least, some of the candidates stayed focused on the main issues: 1) beating Hillary; and 2) overturning Barry O&#039;s &quot;legacy.&quot;

Trump did very well for himself.  Cruz&#039;s &quot;New York values&quot; bit was a mistake -- even if it&#039;s true.  Trump also made a very good point that got lost in the sanctimony over the &quot;banning Muslims&quot; issue -- it&#039;s not just that the San Bernardino jihadis got into the US, but that there were pipe bombs, explosives and other bomb-making materials, and ammunition all over their house, and none of their friends and relatives called the police.  THAT&#039;S what &quot;has to be figured out.&quot;

Kasich and Bush are just too whiney.  They have to go.  Ben Carson, much as I love him, is just too nice to be President.  Rubio was better last night, but still looks like a kid to me.  (Maybe because I&#039;m old.)  

Cruz is certainly the best debater, and probably the most intellectually brilliant, but does that mean he would be a great President?

As before, the undercard was a better debate -- the questions were better and there was no &quot;he said, she said&quot; nonsense.

Carly seems to me to be the only candidate who has given any thought as to what the next President should DO, beyond repealing all of Onederboy&#039;s executive actions and Obamacare.

I can&#039;t figure out why she hasn&#039;t gotten more traction (although she is repeating her catch phrases too often - she needs a little variation in phraseology).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be something about Donald Trump that brings out the inner 5-year old in moderators and candidates alike.  </p>
<p>&#8220;He called you a potato-head!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Did not!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Did too!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Well, he&#8217;s a fatso!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Is not!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Is too!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Oh, yeah!  Well, your mother is ugly!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Your mother is even uglier!&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?  Is that the best we can do?</p>
<p>At least, some of the candidates stayed focused on the main issues: 1) beating Hillary; and 2) overturning Barry O&#8217;s &#8220;legacy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Trump did very well for himself.  Cruz&#8217;s &#8220;New York values&#8221; bit was a mistake &#8212; even if it&#8217;s true.  Trump also made a very good point that got lost in the sanctimony over the &#8220;banning Muslims&#8221; issue &#8212; it&#8217;s not just that the San Bernardino jihadis got into the US, but that there were pipe bombs, explosives and other bomb-making materials, and ammunition all over their house, and none of their friends and relatives called the police.  THAT&#8217;S what &#8220;has to be figured out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kasich and Bush are just too whiney.  They have to go.  Ben Carson, much as I love him, is just too nice to be President.  Rubio was better last night, but still looks like a kid to me.  (Maybe because I&#8217;m old.)  </p>
<p>Cruz is certainly the best debater, and probably the most intellectually brilliant, but does that mean he would be a great President?</p>
<p>As before, the undercard was a better debate &#8212; the questions were better and there was no &#8220;he said, she said&#8221; nonsense.</p>
<p>Carly seems to me to be the only candidate who has given any thought as to what the next President should DO, beyond repealing all of Onederboy&#8217;s executive actions and Obamacare.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t figure out why she hasn&#8217;t gotten more traction (although she is repeating her catch phrases too often &#8211; she needs a little variation in phraseology).</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[K-E

My key point is that Ted can&#039;t clear up the birther thing in court. Not enough time and even if a trial court decided quickly, uncertainty would still be there due to appeals. Trump knows all of this.

I think Ted is handling this right. Actually following Obama&#039;s example is the right thing. And laugh it off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K-E</p>
<p>My key point is that Ted can&#8217;t clear up the birther thing in court. Not enough time and even if a trial court decided quickly, uncertainty would still be there due to appeals. Trump knows all of this.</p>
<p>I think Ted is handling this right. Actually following Obama&#8217;s example is the right thing. And laugh it off.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;then&quot; should have been &quot;than&quot;, apologies for the typo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;then&#8221; should have been &#8220;than&#8221;, apologies for the typo.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cruz needs to do what some indeterminate nobody tells him to do. Yes?

No. Cruz needs to do what he understands he needs to do. His understanding may differ from that of many people who are less informed about his situation then he himself is, not the least the understanding or lack of understanding which Donald Trump pretends to hold. But how like such a one as Donald Trump -- in the finest top-down imperious manner -- to pretend to know what is best for others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cruz needs to do what some indeterminate nobody tells him to do. Yes?</p>
<p>No. Cruz needs to do what he understands he needs to do. His understanding may differ from that of many people who are less informed about his situation then he himself is, not the least the understanding or lack of understanding which Donald Trump pretends to hold. But how like such a one as Donald Trump &#8212; in the finest top-down imperious manner &#8212; to pretend to know what is best for others.</p>
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		By: K-E		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cornhead, I am no attorney, but I never said this guy is Houston was going to succeed in his case. I only said that Cruz needs to take care of the issue or else more than just this Houston guy will rattle his cage. And that is the last thing Cruz needs going into the primary race and/or the presidential race. It would be very very smart for him to put this to rest. Do whatever he needs to do. Just pretending it&#039;s no big deal and all is well, is not convincing enough for some...and the Democrats will jump all over this issue. 

Even lawsuits that go nowhere get in the news, start a conversation, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornhead, I am no attorney, but I never said this guy is Houston was going to succeed in his case. I only said that Cruz needs to take care of the issue or else more than just this Houston guy will rattle his cage. And that is the last thing Cruz needs going into the primary race and/or the presidential race. It would be very very smart for him to put this to rest. Do whatever he needs to do. Just pretending it&#8217;s no big deal and all is well, is not convincing enough for some&#8230;and the Democrats will jump all over this issue. </p>
<p>Even lawsuits that go nowhere get in the news, start a conversation, etc.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;May this country find a candidate who is able to reverse the incredible damage caused over these past 7 years and then some.&lt;/b&gt;

When your country is stuck on the solution of needing a Hero King to sacrifice a lot of stuff to save the entire country, that country may no longer deserve to be saved.

King Arthur did not save the Celts in England, although he gave them a lot of time. The Celts just weren&#039;t capable of withstanding the Saxon and Picts, culturally, given their luxurious civilized lifestyle under the Romans.

Only strong civilizations deserve to survive. The rest, can&#039;t be saved, not in the long term, even by a Hero King.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>May this country find a candidate who is able to reverse the incredible damage caused over these past 7 years and then some.</b></p>
<p>When your country is stuck on the solution of needing a Hero King to sacrifice a lot of stuff to save the entire country, that country may no longer deserve to be saved.</p>
<p>King Arthur did not save the Celts in England, although he gave them a lot of time. The Celts just weren&#8217;t capable of withstanding the Saxon and Picts, culturally, given their luxurious civilized lifestyle under the Romans.</p>
<p>Only strong civilizations deserve to survive. The rest, can&#8217;t be saved, not in the long term, even by a Hero King.</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Harold:

Glad to hear your take on NYC values.

Trump&#039;s answer as a non-sequitur. 9-11 was an attack on America; not NY. It touched every corner of America. We fully supported NY on 9-11. Heck, even New Yorkers supported GWB after 9-11. George&#039;s first pitch strike - from the mound - was his best moment as President.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold:</p>
<p>Glad to hear your take on NYC values.</p>
<p>Trump&#8217;s answer as a non-sequitur. 9-11 was an attack on America; not NY. It touched every corner of America. We fully supported NY on 9-11. Heck, even New Yorkers supported GWB after 9-11. George&#8217;s first pitch strike &#8211; from the mound &#8211; was his best moment as President.</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 16:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[K-E

Federal judge will dismiss. No standing. Not ripe. Political question. 12(b)(6).

Order will issue in 30 days, but that may be too late.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K-E</p>
<p>Federal judge will dismiss. No standing. Not ripe. Political question. 12(b)(6).</p>
<p>Order will issue in 30 days, but that may be too late.</p>
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