“Ymarsakar Says:
January 12th, 2016 at 4:09 pm

The thing about the Peace of Rome is that it has an enervating effect on the local population. When faced against barbarian vitality, they crumble, because Rome did not allow the local militia to develop beyond a certain point.”

I don’t know that the late empire [as opposed to the early Republic] allowed what we Americans would think of as an official citizens’ militia at all; although some units of the army or federates on frontier garrison duty lived a kind of almost dual life, according to what I have read.

I suppose this kind of material could be discussed endlessly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limitanei

“But time wise, the period in which the Saxons, central Germanic tribes, invaded Breton territory, is the first period in which King Arthur came out as, a Celtic or Celtic-Roman warlord. Thus they became the Anglo Saxons, after Arthur died. And then after that, the AS became the English.”

I’m not sure where you have gotten your information, so I will simply say that on my reading the accepted date for the first Saxon migrations to Britain well precedes the personage, mythological or not, of Artorius or Arthur, who was supposedly born well after the night of the long knives, “The Treachery of the Long Knives” and the Saxon revolt.

In line with that latter, I had not known, or given much thought to the fact for a long time, that Vortigern [of the Romano-Britons] was supposedly married to Hengist’s daughter [of the Saxon mercenaries], and had, it is implied a conflicted personal interest eventually leading to a politically subversive outcome.

Having married the daughter of the Angles whom he had invited in, in the tradition of federate mercenaries, in order to garrison certain districts against attacks from more primitive un-Romanized Britons, he fatally compromised himself and the Britons.

On a casual and dismissive reading, this report of the marriage of an old “king” to a young and beautiful maiden, seems like no more than a little romantic window dressing, or the ornamented report of a lost-in-time political agreement.

But it might well give some real insight into the self-interested venality, fecklessness, and political stupidity of the Romano-British ruling class after the withdrawal of the legions.

And, although this is a period for which the information is very fragmentary, I have been impressed by how well the collation functions of the computer age have recently been put to use by those trying to reconcile Nennius, the Cambrian Annals, the Annals of Tigernach, and various Continental sources and Saint’s Lives.

For example, I have seen what looks to be a very plausible timeline put up by amateur historians for kids and it makes for very interesting reading.

Just as an aside, I was quoting Bede for the power and interest of his literary characterization, not as a blow by blow historical timeline.

But time wise, the period in which the Saxons, central Germanic tribes, invaded Breton territory, is the first period in which King Arthur came out as, a Celtic or Celtic-Roman warlord. Thus they became the Anglo Saxons, after Arthur died. And then after that, the AS became the English.

The original Bretons under the Roman Empire, still existed afterwards, somewhat, in the north west of France and in what would be present day Frizia, Zeeland, or Holland. Until the Normans, descendants of Norse vikings, took those coastal areas over.

The Bretons were also connected to the Celtic tribes of Ireland. And the Welsh are another similar connection, which must be why Welsh sounds so different than high ranking English from England.

chuck Says:
January 11th, 2016 at 3:53 pm

The American Empire has receded, and Europe, like Britain after the Romans left, must learn how to defend itself.”

But as you know, they didn’t, and much of it is now called England.

Some of my favorite passages which I have quoted here at least twice before:

… enemies, when they perceived that the Roman soldiers were gone, immediately coming by sea, broke into the borders, trampled and overran all places, and like men mowing ripe corn, bore down all before them. Hereupon messengers were again sent to Rome miserably imploring aid, lest their wretched country should be utterly blotted out, and the name of a Roman province … might become utterly contemptible.

A legion was accordingly sent again, and … made great slaughter of the enemy …. Then the Romans declared to the Britons, that they could not for the future undertake such troublesome expeditions for their sake, and advised them rather to take up arms and make an effort to engage their enemies, who could not prove too powerful for them, unless they themselves were enervated by cowardice.

Moreover … they constructed a strong stone wall from sea to sea, in a straight line between the towns that had been there built for fear of the enemy, … the Britons also lending their assistance. … they gave the dispirited people good advice, and showed them how to furnish themselves with arms. … and so took leave of their allies, never to return again.

After [the Romans] departure to their own country, the Scots and Picts … at once came back, and growing more confident than they had been before, occupied all the northern and farthest part of the island, driving out the natives, as far as the wall.

Hereupon a timorous guard was placed upon the fortification, where, dazed with fear, they became ever more dispirited day by day. … the enemy constantly attacked them with barbed weapons, by which the cowardly defenders were dragged in piteous fashion from the wall, and dashed against the ground.

At last, the Britons, forsaking their cities and wall, took to flight and were scattered.

The enemy pursued, and forthwith followed a massacre more grievous than ever before; for the wretched natives were torn in pieces by their enemies, as lambs are torn by wild beasts.

Thus, being expelled from their dwellings and lands, they saved themselves from the immediate danger of starvation by robbing and plundering one another, adding to the calamities inflicted by the enemy their own domestic broils, till the whole country was left destitute of food except such as could be procured in the chase.

[Subsequently]

Aetius, a man of note and a patrician, discharged his third consulship with Symmachus for his colleague. [And] To him the wretched remnant of the Britons sent a letter, which began thus:

–“To Aetius, thrice Consul, the groans of the Britons.”

And in the sequel of the letter they thus unfolded their woes:

–“The barbarians drive us to the sea; the sea drives us back to the barbarians: between them we are exposed to two sorts of death; we are either slaughtered or drowned.”

[Eventually]

“… the nation of the Angles, or Saxons being invited by the aforesaid king [Vortigern of the cowardly Britons], arrived in Britain with three ships of war and had a place in which to settle assigned to them by the same king, in the eastern part of the island, on the pretext of fighting in defence of their country, whilst their real intentions were to conquer it.

… When the news of their success and of the fertility of the country, and the cowardice of the Britons, reached their own home, a more considerable fleet was quickly sent over, bringing a greater number of men, and these, being added to the former army, made up an invincible force.”

Hilarious.

The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more — we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

Solzhenitsyn

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

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which is why the same people took violence off the table first. that way, you dont exterminate them, and so, they live to impose another day

then there are the professors

VIDEO: College students taught most U.S. terrorists ‘conservative’ white men
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/25808/

The same mindset exists in other countries of Europe.

Since these leftists never give up we can be assured that whatever temporary lulls in immigration occur mass immigration to overwhelm the native populations will continue.

Within our lifetimes Europe will be Muslim, goodbye Christianity. And the imbecile pope supports this.