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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/12/28/does-trump-own-the-media-or-does-the-media-own-trump/#comment-950024</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frog:

As I have indicated several times now, I have one friend who has always voted Democratic (at about 60), who is so turned off by Hillary (and to a certain extent by Obama) that this friend is looking very seriously at the Republican field and intends to vote for a Republican as long as that person isn&#039;t Trump.

Detests Hillary AND Trump.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frog:</p>
<p>As I have indicated several times now, I have one friend who has always voted Democratic (at about 60), who is so turned off by Hillary (and to a certain extent by Obama) that this friend is looking very seriously at the Republican field and intends to vote for a Republican as long as that person isn&#8217;t Trump.</p>
<p>Detests Hillary AND Trump.  </p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2015 17:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An excerpt from Surber&#039;s piece:

&quot;Trump thinks in three dimensions, according to Adams. As does Adams. Trump&#039;s critics are stuck in two dimensions. Every situation is either/or. The pundits on TV talk among themselves and when something happens outside the little box they&#039;ve placed themselves in, they freak. Attacking Rosie O&#039;Donnell didn&#039;t foul Trump out? The only logical explanation for this is that Trump&#039;s supporters are stupid.

And sexist. And racist. After all, most of them are white and don&#039;t have college degrees. Never mind that most Americans are white (75%) and most Americans do not have a college degree (75%). It never occurs to the wizards of cable TV that not everyone has a college degree. When I call Mullens to fix the furnace (or hot water heater or AC or plumbing) I do not want someone with a college degree; I want someone who can fix the problem with competence. They make good wages. But the pundits on TV have talked themselves into thinking that if you do not have a college degree, you must be stupid.

Adams rejects all that, instead looking at Trump as a salesman. Successful politicians are good salesmen. Pundits call them communicators, but they are all Willy Lomans, judged by the shine on their shoe and the smile on their face.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excerpt from Surber&#8217;s piece:</p>
<p>&#8220;Trump thinks in three dimensions, according to Adams. As does Adams. Trump&#8217;s critics are stuck in two dimensions. Every situation is either/or. The pundits on TV talk among themselves and when something happens outside the little box they&#8217;ve placed themselves in, they freak. Attacking Rosie O&#8217;Donnell didn&#8217;t foul Trump out? The only logical explanation for this is that Trump&#8217;s supporters are stupid.</p>
<p>And sexist. And racist. After all, most of them are white and don&#8217;t have college degrees. Never mind that most Americans are white (75%) and most Americans do not have a college degree (75%). It never occurs to the wizards of cable TV that not everyone has a college degree. When I call Mullens to fix the furnace (or hot water heater or AC or plumbing) I do not want someone with a college degree; I want someone who can fix the problem with competence. They make good wages. But the pundits on TV have talked themselves into thinking that if you do not have a college degree, you must be stupid.</p>
<p>Adams rejects all that, instead looking at Trump as a salesman. Successful politicians are good salesmen. Pundits call them communicators, but they are all Willy Lomans, judged by the shine on their shoe and the smile on their face.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Frog		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/12/28/does-trump-own-the-media-or-does-the-media-own-trump/#comment-950011</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2015 17:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo: you have Democrat friends who might vote for a Republican? Any Republican? Really?
These friends detest Trump.
Do they detest Hillary? She is eminently more detestable. 
Or the ignorant Sanders? A fool for President?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo: you have Democrat friends who might vote for a Republican? Any Republican? Really?<br />
These friends detest Trump.<br />
Do they detest Hillary? She is eminently more detestable.<br />
Or the ignorant Sanders? A fool for President?</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2015 17:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo-neocon, Don Surber has a piece up today where he credits Scott Adams of Dilbert fame with being the only &quot;mainstream&quot; pundit to have figured Trump out. He cites some good examples, including, coincidentally, Trump&#039;s appeal to non-College educated people and why this is especially so difficult for educated people to understand:

http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2015/12/pundit-of-year-dilbert-creator-scott.html?spref=tw]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo-neocon, Don Surber has a piece up today where he credits Scott Adams of Dilbert fame with being the only &#8220;mainstream&#8221; pundit to have figured Trump out. He cites some good examples, including, coincidentally, Trump&#8217;s appeal to non-College educated people and why this is especially so difficult for educated people to understand:</p>
<p><a href="http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2015/12/pundit-of-year-dilbert-creator-scott.html?spref=tw" rel="nofollow ugc">http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2015/12/pundit-of-year-dilbert-creator-scott.html?spref=tw</a></p>
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		By: PowerLine Digest &#8211; Live from Council Bluffs, itâ€™s Donald Trump &#8211; Hoax And Change		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] bashed the media as usual. Take a look at this piece by Jean Kaufman at Neo-neocon. Jean asks: “Does the Trump own the media or does the media own [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] bashed the media as usual. Take a look at this piece by Jean Kaufman at Neo-neocon. Jean asks: “Does the Trump own the media or does the media own [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Live from Council Bluffs, itâ€™s Donald Trump &#124; Western Free Press		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2015 13:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] bashed the media as usual. Take a look at this piece by Jean Kaufman at Neo-neocon. Jean asks: &#8220;Does the Trump own the media or does the media own [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] bashed the media as usual. Take a look at this piece by Jean Kaufman at Neo-neocon. Jean asks: &ldquo;Does the Trump own the media or does the media own [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2015 05:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly:

I am certain there are such people.  Probably lots of them.

But I don&#039;t know them.  As I said, most of my friends and all my relatives don&#039;t fit the &quot;blue-collar&quot; description, although I grew up in such a community and live in a community where a lot of people are blue-collar.  I do have a few friends/acquaintances who are what you might call blue-collar, but I discuss politics these days very seldom and with very few people, and I haven&#039;t discussed politics with any of them in several years.

What I do know is that all my Democrat friends who have discussed Trump (and there are quite a few) detest him, and one Independent I know, who is looking to vote for a Republican this year, detests Trump as well---but that person is a teacher, which is not blue collar.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus T. Firefly:</p>
<p>I am certain there are such people.  Probably lots of them.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know them.  As I said, most of my friends and all my relatives don&#8217;t fit the &#8220;blue-collar&#8221; description, although I grew up in such a community and live in a community where a lot of people are blue-collar.  I do have a few friends/acquaintances who are what you might call blue-collar, but I discuss politics these days very seldom and with very few people, and I haven&#8217;t discussed politics with any of them in several years.</p>
<p>What I do know is that all my Democrat friends who have discussed Trump (and there are quite a few) detest him, and one Independent I know, who is looking to vote for a Republican this year, detests Trump as well&#8212;but that person is a teacher, which is not blue collar.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2015 02:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo-neocon, aren&#039;t there at least some blue collar folks in your part of the northeast who favor Trump?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo-neocon, aren&#8217;t there at least some blue collar folks in your part of the northeast who favor Trump?</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2015 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry to assume something that was not true, but, based on descriptions of your childhood it sounds quite different from mine. Maybe the ballet stuff threw me!

Maybe it&#039;s a northeast vs. midwest difference, but I can imagine the folks I grew up and around liking Trump a lot. They weren&#039;t nearly as concerned with how things got done, but whether that things got done. Trump is exactly the type of brash, tough talking bully they would understand and want in their corner. Most of those people almost only vote Democrat, but many did vote for Reagan and I think many would choose Trump over Hillary.

Again, I have no idea if he would win. I think the Joe Lunchpail types and maybe folks who want closed borders and tariffs would be the only folks to vote for Trump, but I think more of those types of folks vote Democrat than Republican.

I&#039;ve never even watched, &quot;The Apprentice,&quot; but some segment of the population does. And they watch the Kardashians and anyone else who is &quot;famous for being famous.&quot; There is a certain percentage of the population who are drawn to celebrity and a certain percentage drawn to strength, regardless of morals. Many people will vote for Trump purely because he if famous, ostentatious and brash. I think that crosses party lines.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to assume something that was not true, but, based on descriptions of your childhood it sounds quite different from mine. Maybe the ballet stuff threw me!</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a northeast vs. midwest difference, but I can imagine the folks I grew up and around liking Trump a lot. They weren&#8217;t nearly as concerned with how things got done, but whether that things got done. Trump is exactly the type of brash, tough talking bully they would understand and want in their corner. Most of those people almost only vote Democrat, but many did vote for Reagan and I think many would choose Trump over Hillary.</p>
<p>Again, I have no idea if he would win. I think the Joe Lunchpail types and maybe folks who want closed borders and tariffs would be the only folks to vote for Trump, but I think more of those types of folks vote Democrat than Republican.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never even watched, &#8220;The Apprentice,&#8221; but some segment of the population does. And they watch the Kardashians and anyone else who is &#8220;famous for being famous.&#8221; There is a certain percentage of the population who are drawn to celebrity and a certain percentage drawn to strength, regardless of morals. Many people will vote for Trump purely because he if famous, ostentatious and brash. I think that crosses party lines.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2015 00:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly:

I was raised in a solidly blue-collar part of NYC.  I went to public schools all the way through grade school and high school.  And I have lived most of my life in blue-collar areas of New England, although the cities themselves have sometimes been liberal.  I am surrounded by liberals in terms of my close friends and definitely my relatives, but for much (not all, but much) of my life I&#039;ve been embedded in a larger community that is blue-collar, and I continue to have a few acquaintances and/or friends (just a few) who still would answer to that description, and are not college-educated, either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus T. Firefly:</p>
<p>I was raised in a solidly blue-collar part of NYC.  I went to public schools all the way through grade school and high school.  And I have lived most of my life in blue-collar areas of New England, although the cities themselves have sometimes been liberal.  I am surrounded by liberals in terms of my close friends and definitely my relatives, but for much (not all, but much) of my life I&#8217;ve been embedded in a larger community that is blue-collar, and I continue to have a few acquaintances and/or friends (just a few) who still would answer to that description, and are not college-educated, either.</p>
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