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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/12/02/breaking-news-active-shooter-situation-in-san-bernadino/#comment-942646</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 19:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ConceptJunkie,

With but a few caveats we&#039;re in agreement. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot; The only peaceful Muslim, and there are many, at least in the West, is a Muslim that ignores many teachings of his religion.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

There are hundreds of millions of Muslims,  indeed arguably a majority, who ignore Islam&#039;s core teachings. BUT... that percentage of &#039;moderate&#039; Muslims is precipitously reduced &lt;i&gt;as the percentage of Muslims in a society increases&lt;/i&gt; and a greater percentage of young Muslim Americans are radical than their elders. A Pew poll revealed that 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for apostasy. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;For Islam to be truly compatible with liberal, Western democracy, it must become something it is not, and never has been.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

It cannot become something it is not. It is theologically impossible for Islam to reform, either from within or without. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;(albeit it depends on what parts you consider to “abrogate” the other parts)&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

There is NO controversy within Islam as to its doctrine of abrogation. Agreement is virtually universal that the later violent passages abrogate the earlier more peaceful passages. EVERY Muslim KNOWS this to be true. This is &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; the &#039;moderate&#039; Muslims are silent (even anonymously), they KNOW that the jihadists occupy the theological &#039;high&#039; ground. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;people acting in this manner are simply imitating their so-called “perfect Prophet”&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

That&#039;s not by choice. Muhammad HAS to be declared &#039;perfect&#039; because if his pedophilia and murderous nature is admitted, then him also being deluded or simply a liar as to the Qur&#039;an&#039;s authorship... becomes almost impossible to defend against. And Islam&#039;s theological foundations utterly rest upon Muhammad&#039;s claim that the Qur&#039;an was dictated to him by Allah through the perfect conduit, the Archangel Gabriel.

Islam is a virulently expansionist, totalitarian ideology wrapped in a facade of religious pretense. Comparisons to cancer and speculation as to its satanic origin are entirely plausible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ConceptJunkie,</p>
<p>With but a few caveats we&#8217;re in agreement. </p>
<p><i>&#8221; The only peaceful Muslim, and there are many, at least in the West, is a Muslim that ignores many teachings of his religion.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>There are hundreds of millions of Muslims,  indeed arguably a majority, who ignore Islam&#8217;s core teachings. BUT&#8230; that percentage of &#8216;moderate&#8217; Muslims is precipitously reduced <i>as the percentage of Muslims in a society increases</i> and a greater percentage of young Muslim Americans are radical than their elders. A Pew poll revealed that 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for apostasy. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;For Islam to be truly compatible with liberal, Western democracy, it must become something it is not, and never has been.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>It cannot become something it is not. It is theologically impossible for Islam to reform, either from within or without. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;(albeit it depends on what parts you consider to “abrogate” the other parts)&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>There is NO controversy within Islam as to its doctrine of abrogation. Agreement is virtually universal that the later violent passages abrogate the earlier more peaceful passages. EVERY Muslim KNOWS this to be true. This is <i>why</i> the &#8216;moderate&#8217; Muslims are silent (even anonymously), they KNOW that the jihadists occupy the theological &#8216;high&#8217; ground. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;people acting in this manner are simply imitating their so-called “perfect Prophet”&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not by choice. Muhammad HAS to be declared &#8216;perfect&#8217; because if his pedophilia and murderous nature is admitted, then him also being deluded or simply a liar as to the Qur&#8217;an&#8217;s authorship&#8230; becomes almost impossible to defend against. And Islam&#8217;s theological foundations utterly rest upon Muhammad&#8217;s claim that the Qur&#8217;an was dictated to him by Allah through the perfect conduit, the Archangel Gabriel.</p>
<p>Islam is a virulently expansionist, totalitarian ideology wrapped in a facade of religious pretense. Comparisons to cancer and speculation as to its satanic origin are entirely plausible.</p>
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		By: ConceptJunkie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/12/02/breaking-news-active-shooter-situation-in-san-bernadino/#comment-942616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ConceptJunkie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 18:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Geoffrey Britain:  And at some point, &quot;guilt by association&quot; applies to all Muslims.   The only peaceful Muslim, and there are many, at least in the West, is a Muslim that ignores many teachings of his religion.  

Either that or he is laying low waiting for a chance to follow Allah&#039;s will.  

But the bottom line is that you can&#039;t reform Islam.  The bad stuff is baked in at the very foundation.  For Islam to be truly compatible with liberal, Western democracy, it must become something it is not, and never has been.

When these kinds of things happen in the name of Christianity, it is trivial to show that they are diametrically opposed to Christianity.  

Yeah, there are some dolts who play silly games with the Old Testament, but they are, not to put too fine a point on it, ignorant idiots.   

Ditto Judaism, and as far as my limited knowledge goes, Buddhism and Hinduism.   But when you&#039;re talking about Islam, it&#039;s pretty straightforward to justify these things with the core teachings of the religion (albeit it depends on what parts you consider to &quot;abrogate&quot; the other parts).

Furthermore, people acting in this manner are simply imitating their so-called &quot;perfect Prophet&quot; who engaged in all sorts of awful behavior by any moral standard that matters. 

Muslims aren&#039;t directly the problem, not most of them, but Islam is.  It is a memetic cancer that cannot be cured, only excised from the world.  If only the West weren&#039;t abandoning the only things that can win over hearts and mind to a greater Good, we would be a lot better able to defend ourselves and our culture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Geoffrey Britain:  And at some point, &#8220;guilt by association&#8221; applies to all Muslims.   The only peaceful Muslim, and there are many, at least in the West, is a Muslim that ignores many teachings of his religion.  </p>
<p>Either that or he is laying low waiting for a chance to follow Allah&#8217;s will.  </p>
<p>But the bottom line is that you can&#8217;t reform Islam.  The bad stuff is baked in at the very foundation.  For Islam to be truly compatible with liberal, Western democracy, it must become something it is not, and never has been.</p>
<p>When these kinds of things happen in the name of Christianity, it is trivial to show that they are diametrically opposed to Christianity.  </p>
<p>Yeah, there are some dolts who play silly games with the Old Testament, but they are, not to put too fine a point on it, ignorant idiots.   </p>
<p>Ditto Judaism, and as far as my limited knowledge goes, Buddhism and Hinduism.   But when you&#8217;re talking about Islam, it&#8217;s pretty straightforward to justify these things with the core teachings of the religion (albeit it depends on what parts you consider to &#8220;abrogate&#8221; the other parts).</p>
<p>Furthermore, people acting in this manner are simply imitating their so-called &#8220;perfect Prophet&#8221; who engaged in all sorts of awful behavior by any moral standard that matters. </p>
<p>Muslims aren&#8217;t directly the problem, not most of them, but Islam is.  It is a memetic cancer that cannot be cured, only excised from the world.  If only the West weren&#8217;t abandoning the only things that can win over hearts and mind to a greater Good, we would be a lot better able to defend ourselves and our culture.</p>
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		By: Oldflyer		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/12/02/breaking-news-active-shooter-situation-in-san-bernadino/#comment-942613</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oldflyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 18:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,  This morning the Chief said that the &quot;long guns&quot; were legally purchased, but he did not know if they were &quot;California legal&quot;.  California, for instance, has restrictions on the size of magazines.  Therefore, a gun-magazine combination that is legal in another state, would not be legal to buy, or possess, in California.

As most people know, the AR-15 is not an assault rifle, even though it is popularly labeled as such.  Strangely, the COP did refer to the weapons as assault rifles, a description that does not fit the definition of legal.

FBI still cannot bring itself to use the term Terror.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,  This morning the Chief said that the &#8220;long guns&#8221; were legally purchased, but he did not know if they were &#8220;California legal&#8221;.  California, for instance, has restrictions on the size of magazines.  Therefore, a gun-magazine combination that is legal in another state, would not be legal to buy, or possess, in California.</p>
<p>As most people know, the AR-15 is not an assault rifle, even though it is popularly labeled as such.  Strangely, the COP did refer to the weapons as assault rifles, a description that does not fit the definition of legal.</p>
<p>FBI still cannot bring itself to use the term Terror.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 18:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;We need to destroy ISIS, Iran, and the Assad administration &lt;b&gt;to get to the roots&lt;/b&gt; of most of our problems.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

We certainly need to destroy ISIS and destroy Iran&#039;s program to achieve nuclear weapons capability. Assad on the other hand is a dictator and our choice in the ME is either a dictator or jihadist regimes. There is NO middle road. As Islam won&#039;t allow it. 

BUT... none of those things will get to the root of the problem, because those are ALL symptomatic, NOT &lt;i&gt;causal&lt;/i&gt;. The source of Islamic jihadism is Islam, period. It is impossible to reform Islam&#039;s violence. All that can be done is to quarantine it and allow it to destroy itself through continued exposure of its youth to modern cultural influences.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;We need to destroy ISIS, Iran, and the Assad administration <b>to get to the roots</b> of most of our problems.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>We certainly need to destroy ISIS and destroy Iran&#8217;s program to achieve nuclear weapons capability. Assad on the other hand is a dictator and our choice in the ME is either a dictator or jihadist regimes. There is NO middle road. As Islam won&#8217;t allow it. </p>
<p>BUT&#8230; none of those things will get to the root of the problem, because those are ALL symptomatic, NOT <i>causal</i>. The source of Islamic jihadism is Islam, period. It is impossible to reform Islam&#8217;s violence. All that can be done is to quarantine it and allow it to destroy itself through continued exposure of its youth to modern cultural influences.</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 18:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems that mass violence is much, much more prevalent on the other (Mexican) side of USA southern border. I even do not mention Middle East yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that mass violence is much, much more prevalent on the other (Mexican) side of USA southern border. I even do not mention Middle East yet.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 17:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr:

Just to get this straight---so, are you saying that the police chief was lying when he said the weapons were legally-purchased AR15s?  Because he made that announcement late last night in his press conference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr:</p>
<p>Just to get this straight&#8212;so, are you saying that the police chief was lying when he said the weapons were legally-purchased AR15s?  Because he made that announcement late last night in his press conference.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 17:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it pretty clear this was an act of terror, and the day and event chosen specifically because of what it was- a Christmas party.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it pretty clear this was an act of terror, and the day and event chosen specifically because of what it was- a Christmas party.</p>
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		By: Harold		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/12/02/breaking-news-active-shooter-situation-in-san-bernadino/#comment-942599</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 16:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is real simple. If we lived in a real country the operating theory would have started out as &quot;this is Islamic terrorism&quot;. If we lived in a real country the police, FBI and media wouldn&#039;t be  bent into pretzels terrified of saying what they all know: This is Islamic terrorism, just like Paris.

There is no such thing as &quot;Lone Wolf&quot; terrorists. They are all united by Islam.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is real simple. If we lived in a real country the operating theory would have started out as &#8220;this is Islamic terrorism&#8221;. If we lived in a real country the police, FBI and media wouldn&#8217;t be  bent into pretzels terrified of saying what they all know: This is Islamic terrorism, just like Paris.</p>
<p>There is no such thing as &#8220;Lone Wolf&#8221; terrorists. They are all united by Islam.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 16:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a suggestion for Neo. Have a contest to beat the Lying-Sack-In-Chief to the punch with a speech writing contest.

Do your best anticipatory impersonation of our own Dear Leader and Manchurian Candidate, as he might be expected to expatiate on these recent events.

You know something like,

&quot;For too long now we Americans have seen how misunderstood frontier traditions, obsolete attachments, and the celebration of mythical images involving the heroic individual , have contributed to our current and uniquely American epidemic of mass violence.

These instances of workplace and civic violence, perpetrated by alienated and estranged persons who might otherwise seek counseling, are enabled by our archaic obsession with unfettered access to devices meant only for war.

We must make certain that extremist individuals who wish to twist the tenets of our great religious traditions, are forestalled rather than aided when they attempt to act out their murderous rages ...&quot;

Yadda yadda yadda, NRA, George Bush, Republicans, Fundamentalists, Racism etc etc etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a suggestion for Neo. Have a contest to beat the Lying-Sack-In-Chief to the punch with a speech writing contest.</p>
<p>Do your best anticipatory impersonation of our own Dear Leader and Manchurian Candidate, as he might be expected to expatiate on these recent events.</p>
<p>You know something like,</p>
<p>&#8220;For too long now we Americans have seen how misunderstood frontier traditions, obsolete attachments, and the celebration of mythical images involving the heroic individual , have contributed to our current and uniquely American epidemic of mass violence.</p>
<p>These instances of workplace and civic violence, perpetrated by alienated and estranged persons who might otherwise seek counseling, are enabled by our archaic obsession with unfettered access to devices meant only for war.</p>
<p>We must make certain that extremist individuals who wish to twist the tenets of our great religious traditions, are forestalled rather than aided when they attempt to act out their murderous rages &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yadda yadda yadda, NRA, George Bush, Republicans, Fundamentalists, Racism etc etc etc.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Though there are certainly attacks on the Second Amendment from around the edges through un-Second Amendment-like regulation writing, any direct attack, as for instance in repeal, is unthinkable to the leftists.  They are not so stupid as to believe such a thing possible. On the other hand, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights, FDR showed the way, not by repealing what he didn&#039;t like, but by adding &quot;rights&quot; which themselves are anathema to the underlying principles embodied in the original ten: the so-called &quot;positive&quot; rights, which nullify the entire object of the original bill of ten. Make the government the source of &quot;right&quot;, rather than restricted to a repository of heavily limited powers, and &lt;i&gt;voila&lt;/i&gt;!, Americans sufficiently forget over time the purpose of their retention of sovereignty, which they learn to cede away. Government (mere politicians along with their chosen administrators) obtains great power it ought never to have had, and the means to get itself more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though there are certainly attacks on the Second Amendment from around the edges through un-Second Amendment-like regulation writing, any direct attack, as for instance in repeal, is unthinkable to the leftists.  They are not so stupid as to believe such a thing possible. On the other hand, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights, FDR showed the way, not by repealing what he didn&#8217;t like, but by adding &#8220;rights&#8221; which themselves are anathema to the underlying principles embodied in the original ten: the so-called &#8220;positive&#8221; rights, which nullify the entire object of the original bill of ten. Make the government the source of &#8220;right&#8221;, rather than restricted to a repository of heavily limited powers, and <i>voila</i>!, Americans sufficiently forget over time the purpose of their retention of sovereignty, which they learn to cede away. Government (mere politicians along with their chosen administrators) obtains great power it ought never to have had, and the means to get itself more.</p>
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