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		By: sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/28/the-newest-trump-flap/#comment-941695</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 18:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I knew a few actual tool users -- plumbers, electricians, carpenters, builders of various sorts -- in NJ and Philly who when screwed out of their payments by Trump&#039;s bankruptcies in Atlantic City felt themselves tools used by Trump. He proudly claims he only uses the tools the law hands him to use, on the other hand. Doing justice to the screwed-over actual tool users? Not so much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew a few actual tool users &#8212; plumbers, electricians, carpenters, builders of various sorts &#8212; in NJ and Philly who when screwed out of their payments by Trump&#8217;s bankruptcies in Atlantic City felt themselves tools used by Trump. He proudly claims he only uses the tools the law hands him to use, on the other hand. Doing justice to the screwed-over actual tool users? Not so much.</p>
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		By: MikeII		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/28/the-newest-trump-flap/#comment-941692</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 18:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar :&quot;It is rather easy for tool users at the top of society, like Trump, to take advantage of powerless weaklings that have been broken by the system.&quot;

Whether Trump is a &quot;tool user&quot; or not remains to be seen.

What we do know as a matter of Fact is that
Obummer, Pelosi , Reid, Soros , Jerry Brown, etc have contributed to CA&#039;s decline. I blame these Aholes based on facts rather on my assumptions about Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar :&#8221;It is rather easy for tool users at the top of society, like Trump, to take advantage of powerless weaklings that have been broken by the system.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whether Trump is a &#8220;tool user&#8221; or not remains to be seen.</p>
<p>What we do know as a matter of Fact is that<br />
Obummer, Pelosi , Reid, Soros , Jerry Brown, etc have contributed to CA&#8217;s decline. I blame these Aholes based on facts rather on my assumptions about Trump.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/28/the-newest-trump-flap/#comment-941672</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;but for me in California all politics are local, and it begins and ends with illegal immigration. I’m done.&lt;/b&gt;

It is rather easy for tool users at the top of society, like Trump, to take advantage of powerless weaklings that have been broken by the system.

After all, what other choice do they have in California? But the system was setup that way, precisely to obtain that effect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>but for me in California all politics are local, and it begins and ends with illegal immigration. I’m done.</b></p>
<p>It is rather easy for tool users at the top of society, like Trump, to take advantage of powerless weaklings that have been broken by the system.</p>
<p>After all, what other choice do they have in California? But the system was setup that way, precisely to obtain that effect.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/28/the-newest-trump-flap/#comment-941671</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A clarification to the previous, it&#039;s actually easier to remember what they look like and what they did, to mimic their physical movements, than it is to remember their names. But Trump&#039;s been doing this for a lot longer than I have, he has secretaries and social functions that help his brain cope, because he is using people&#039;s names all the time. But in the case of reporters, throwing them out would leave a pleasant emotion, one that isn&#039;t easily forgotten, even if he didn&#039;t care to know who they were.  Reporters are just tools to media and real estate moguls. It&#039;s not easy to forget a tool, though, when they use it all the time.

In a case where WMDs are being used by both sides, one should take a neutral stance, not fall for somebody&#039;s con at the first strike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A clarification to the previous, it&#8217;s actually easier to remember what they look like and what they did, to mimic their physical movements, than it is to remember their names. But Trump&#8217;s been doing this for a lot longer than I have, he has secretaries and social functions that help his brain cope, because he is using people&#8217;s names all the time. But in the case of reporters, throwing them out would leave a pleasant emotion, one that isn&#8217;t easily forgotten, even if he didn&#8217;t care to know who they were.  Reporters are just tools to media and real estate moguls. It&#8217;s not easy to forget a tool, though, when they use it all the time.</p>
<p>In a case where WMDs are being used by both sides, one should take a neutral stance, not fall for somebody&#8217;s con at the first strike.</p>
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		By: MikeII		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/28/the-newest-trump-flap/#comment-941655</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Trump’s supporters will either ignore the incident, disbelieve Kovaleski and believe Trump, say they don’t care enough for it to matter, or admire him for it.&quot;
While I&#039;m on the fence with regards to Trump as a viable candidate, I grow weary of the MSM media and bloggers of being selectively outraged over Trump&#039;s actions. 
I&#039;ll take an educated guess and assume this &quot;handicapped&quot; reporter is a typical stooge for the Left and has no problem with Hillary leaving 4 Americans to die in Benghazi for political expediency. And yet &quot;We&quot; are offended by Trump&#039;s comments/actions and give Hillary a pass. 
Sort of like Golden Boy&#039;s desire never to use &quot;waterboarding&quot; but nonchalant  approach to drones and hell-fire missiles.    Notice the difference in terms and the actual outcome for the &quot;victims&quot;?
Like it or not, I will say that Trump has pulled all the milk-toast&quot; candidates into areas where they would not likely have gone.  So right or wrong, good or bad, I thank Trump for that action.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Trump’s supporters will either ignore the incident, disbelieve Kovaleski and believe Trump, say they don’t care enough for it to matter, or admire him for it.&#8221;<br />
While I&#8217;m on the fence with regards to Trump as a viable candidate, I grow weary of the MSM media and bloggers of being selectively outraged over Trump&#8217;s actions.<br />
I&#8217;ll take an educated guess and assume this &#8220;handicapped&#8221; reporter is a typical stooge for the Left and has no problem with Hillary leaving 4 Americans to die in Benghazi for political expediency. And yet &#8220;We&#8221; are offended by Trump&#8217;s comments/actions and give Hillary a pass.<br />
Sort of like Golden Boy&#8217;s desire never to use &#8220;waterboarding&#8221; but nonchalant  approach to drones and hell-fire missiles.    Notice the difference in terms and the actual outcome for the &#8220;victims&#8221;?<br />
Like it or not, I will say that Trump has pulled all the milk-toast&#8221; candidates into areas where they would not likely have gone.  So right or wrong, good or bad, I thank Trump for that action.</p>
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		By: Cabernt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 06:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[boxty Says: 
As long as Trump is able to end illegal immigration, then I have no problems with him being a bit rude.
neo-neocon Says:boxty: But I’m asking about lying, not rudeness.
Bluntly I say... if Trump can end illegal immigration, then I have no problems with him being a liar. That&#039;s how far I&#039;ve been pushed in the state of California. I support Cruz, and will vote Cruz....but for me in California all politics are local, and it begins and ends with illegal immigration. I&#039;m done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boxty Says:<br />
As long as Trump is able to end illegal immigration, then I have no problems with him being a bit rude.<br />
neo-neocon Says:boxty: But I’m asking about lying, not rudeness.<br />
Bluntly I say&#8230; if Trump can end illegal immigration, then I have no problems with him being a liar. That&#8217;s how far I&#8217;ve been pushed in the state of California. I support Cruz, and will vote Cruz&#8230;.but for me in California all politics are local, and it begins and ends with illegal immigration. I&#8217;m done.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/28/the-newest-trump-flap/#comment-941494</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 22:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Orson:

And who do you think that &quot;other&quot; reporter might be?  You know, the one who was walking back his own &quot;previously fact-checked and verified story on the Muslim celebrants on 911&quot;?

Link; name?

Because my understanding of the clip is that that reporter was Kovaleski.  Now, of course I could be wrong, but I&#039;ve never heard of another possibility for who Trump might have been talking about.

It was &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/18/northern-new-jersey-draws-probers-eyes/40f82ea4-e015-4d6e-a87e-93aa433fafdc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this story that Kovaleski wrote&lt;/a&gt; for the &lt;i&gt;WaPo&lt;/i&gt; on September 18, 2001 that&#039;s been the focus of the ruckus.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wyff4.com/money/donald-trumps-denial-challenged-by-reporter/36683230&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; part of Kovaleski&#039;s walk-back:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Kovaleski&#039;s story referred to FBI probes of the alleged celebrations, but quoted no witnesses and contained no specific evidence that celebrations occurred.

He was interviewed this week by the Washington Post about his 2001 reporting. &quot;I certainly do not remember anyone saying that thousands or even hundreds of people were celebrating. That was not the case, as best as I can remember,&quot; Kovaleski told CNNMoney.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have no idea what other reporter and what other story you think Trump was referring to. I&#039;ve done a lot of reading on this, and there has never been any other reporter, story, and walkback mentioned that Trump could have been referring to.  Unless you can come up with one, you may have to do a bit of walking back yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orson:</p>
<p>And who do you think that &#8220;other&#8221; reporter might be?  You know, the one who was walking back his own &#8220;previously fact-checked and verified story on the Muslim celebrants on 911&#8221;?</p>
<p>Link; name?</p>
<p>Because my understanding of the clip is that that reporter was Kovaleski.  Now, of course I could be wrong, but I&#8217;ve never heard of another possibility for who Trump might have been talking about.</p>
<p>It was <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/18/northern-new-jersey-draws-probers-eyes/40f82ea4-e015-4d6e-a87e-93aa433fafdc/" rel="nofollow">this story that Kovaleski wrote</a> for the <i>WaPo</i> on September 18, 2001 that&#8217;s been the focus of the ruckus.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wyff4.com/money/donald-trumps-denial-challenged-by-reporter/36683230" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s</a> part of Kovaleski&#8217;s walk-back:</p>
<blockquote><p>Kovaleski&#8217;s story referred to FBI probes of the alleged celebrations, but quoted no witnesses and contained no specific evidence that celebrations occurred.</p>
<p>He was interviewed this week by the Washington Post about his 2001 reporting. &#8220;I certainly do not remember anyone saying that thousands or even hundreds of people were celebrating. That was not the case, as best as I can remember,&#8221; Kovaleski told CNNMoney.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have no idea what other reporter and what other story you think Trump was referring to. I&#8217;ve done a lot of reading on this, and there has never been any other reporter, story, and walkback mentioned that Trump could have been referring to.  Unless you can come up with one, you may have to do a bit of walking back yourself.</p>
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		By: Orson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scott Johnson makes the case for Trumps denial of an insulting ... (whatever)!

In a word, no. Because in reality, same-old same-old media smears are going on
against Trump.

How do i know? First I saw the short clip on CNN that starts and ends with Trump gesticulating like a palsy.

Then, on C-Span&#039;s Wash Journal (morning call in) I see a longer clip: it is clear that Trump was rebuking another LSM conformist for walking back his previously fact-checked and verified story on the Muslim celebrants on 911. 

That&#039;s it. And I&#039;m not alone - consider a disabled Vet who witnessed Trump at this event, firsthand:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
There is a difference between mocking a reporter for walking back his story who is also disabled and mocking a disabled reporter. 

According to a caller to [co-Powerlinblog writer] John Hinderaker, who subbed for Laura Ingaham&#039;s talk radio show on Friday morning, a disabled American Veteran who was at the 10,000 Trump rally, grasped the difference. Why can&#039;t those people - like the NYTimes - who lack obvious disabilities, not do the same?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Does our MSM ever do nuance when covering the Democrats-with-bylines opposition?

Can&#039;t remember when.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Johnson makes the case for Trumps denial of an insulting &#8230; (whatever)!</p>
<p>In a word, no. Because in reality, same-old same-old media smears are going on<br />
against Trump.</p>
<p>How do i know? First I saw the short clip on CNN that starts and ends with Trump gesticulating like a palsy.</p>
<p>Then, on C-Span&#8217;s Wash Journal (morning call in) I see a longer clip: it is clear that Trump was rebuking another LSM conformist for walking back his previously fact-checked and verified story on the Muslim celebrants on 911. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s it. And I&#8217;m not alone &#8211; consider a disabled Vet who witnessed Trump at this event, firsthand:</p>
<blockquote><p>
There is a difference between mocking a reporter for walking back his story who is also disabled and mocking a disabled reporter. </p>
<p>According to a caller to [co-Powerlinblog writer] John Hinderaker, who subbed for Laura Ingaham&#8217;s talk radio show on Friday morning, a disabled American Veteran who was at the 10,000 Trump rally, grasped the difference. Why can&#8217;t those people &#8211; like the NYTimes &#8211; who lack obvious disabilities, not do the same?
</p></blockquote>
<p>Does our MSM ever do nuance when covering the Democrats-with-bylines opposition?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t remember when.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Can you name everyone in your class from 30 years ago? &lt;/b&gt;

I, like Trump, can name people I&#039;ve gotten into fights with, even recall the look on their faces.

You&#039;re not like Trump, psychologically speaking, thus you don&#039;t understand how that part of the core works.

People who have a habit of using anger or strong emotion to get into fights, as Trump and I tend to share, aren&#039;t forgetful of information relating to such. Any more than people forget extremely vivid experiences in war or life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Can you name everyone in your class from 30 years ago? </b></p>
<p>I, like Trump, can name people I&#8217;ve gotten into fights with, even recall the look on their faces.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not like Trump, psychologically speaking, thus you don&#8217;t understand how that part of the core works.</p>
<p>People who have a habit of using anger or strong emotion to get into fights, as Trump and I tend to share, aren&#8217;t forgetful of information relating to such. Any more than people forget extremely vivid experiences in war or life.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Why put yourself through this grinding process when you could be enjoying everything that 10 billion dollars buys you?&lt;/b&gt;

10 billion dollars can buy the undying loyalty of the superpower called the United States of America?

Humans tend to go through a lot of things to end up at the top.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Why put yourself through this grinding process when you could be enjoying everything that 10 billion dollars buys you?</b></p>
<p>10 billion dollars can buy the undying loyalty of the superpower called the United States of America?</p>
<p>Humans tend to go through a lot of things to end up at the top.</p>
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