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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/03/standing-up-to-moderators-standing-up-to-putin/#comment-934798</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In combo with Alinsky Rule 5, Rule 12 is also applied here.

Set the narrative to keep the accusation spotlight fixed on your target. On the GOP candidates, instead of obviously biased media. On Bush, instead of obviously guilty Saddam.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In combo with Alinsky Rule 5, Rule 12 is also applied here.</p>
<p>Set the narrative to keep the accusation spotlight fixed on your target. On the GOP candidates, instead of obviously biased media. On Bush, instead of obviously guilty Saddam.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/03/standing-up-to-moderators-standing-up-to-putin/#comment-934685</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2015 02:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann: &quot;Sadly, infuriatingly, this will probably be effective.&quot; 

The Other Gary: &quot;Republicans forcefully rejected questions and behavior based on biased, fallacious assumptions.&quot;

Republicans are being forced to do the kind of work that Right activists should be doing but the Right refuses to do - the kind of work that Left activists do in order to set the stage and arm Democrats (to do their part for the Left).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann: &#8220;Sadly, infuriatingly, this will probably be effective.&#8221; </p>
<p>The Other Gary: &#8220;Republicans forcefully rejected questions and behavior based on biased, fallacious assumptions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Republicans are being forced to do the kind of work that Right activists should be doing but the Right refuses to do &#8211; the kind of work that Left activists do in order to set the stage and arm Democrats (to do their part for the Left).</p>
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		By: The Other Gary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Other Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2015 00:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[M J R wrote (5:59pm):

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Reasoned examination&quot;? To that ilk, what the h#ll is that??&lt;/i&gt;

To Allinsky progressives, it means nothing.

I was just making the point that the insult doesn&#039;t even make sense, not that I expect supporters of King Barack to realize this or do anything other than laugh along with their Great Leader.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M J R wrote (5:59pm):</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Reasoned examination&#8221;? To that ilk, what the h#ll is that??</i></p>
<p>To Allinsky progressives, it means nothing.</p>
<p>I was just making the point that the insult doesn&#8217;t even make sense, not that I expect supporters of King Barack to realize this or do anything other than laugh along with their Great Leader.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2015 23:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bho believes anyone who disagrees with his royal wisdom is a fool wrapped inside a knave. All his affirmative action life he has been told he is the most brilliant of them all, and he believes it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bho believes anyone who disagrees with his royal wisdom is a fool wrapped inside a knave. All his affirmative action life he has been told he is the most brilliant of them all, and he believes it.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/03/standing-up-to-moderators-standing-up-to-putin/#comment-934655</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2015 23:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Older conservatives are prone to obeying the law of niceties when it comes to internal enemies, especially the vendetta and bounty prone Democrat South before Reagan. But generations and pops change, and the new conservative generation will not be so nice as the older ones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Older conservatives are prone to obeying the law of niceties when it comes to internal enemies, especially the vendetta and bounty prone Democrat South before Reagan. But generations and pops change, and the new conservative generation will not be so nice as the older ones.</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/03/standing-up-to-moderators-standing-up-to-putin/#comment-934646</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2015 22:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Other Gary, 4:06 pm -- &quot;This, like many insults, falls apart under the light of reasoned examination . . . .&quot;

&quot;Reasoned examination&quot;?  To that ilk, what the h#ll is that??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Other Gary, 4:06 pm &#8212; &#8220;This, like many insults, falls apart under the light of reasoned examination . . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Reasoned examination&#8221;?  To that ilk, what the h#ll is that??</p>
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		By: CV		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/03/standing-up-to-moderators-standing-up-to-putin/#comment-934637</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2015 22:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Saw this clip on the morning news and my first thought was, &quot;what a despicable little man.&quot; He truly is such a small, small person.

His character (rather lack of) has always been apparent, and it continues to baffle why more people don&#039;t see it. He really has damaged and diminished the office of the presidency, hopefully not beyond repair (sadly, I don&#039;t think it will ever fully recover.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw this clip on the morning news and my first thought was, &#8220;what a despicable little man.&#8221; He truly is such a small, small person.</p>
<p>His character (rather lack of) has always been apparent, and it continues to baffle why more people don&#8217;t see it. He really has damaged and diminished the office of the presidency, hopefully not beyond repair (sadly, I don&#8217;t think it will ever fully recover.)</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/03/standing-up-to-moderators-standing-up-to-putin/#comment-934630</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2015 21:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama&#039;s targeted audience is the LIVs. It is essential to his agenda that the next President be a democrat. And, Obama is well aware that it is the LIVs who will determine his successor. Along with the schools, the media is most responsible for establishing, advancing and sustaining that agenda. 

If, &quot;the truth shall set them free&quot;, then for the Left, obstructing the truth, most of all from the LIVs is of critical importance. Reality however, will have its say and reality more than anything else is why the left&#039;s agenda is ultimately, unsustainable. 

The greater the denial and resistance, the harsher reality&#039;s lessons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s targeted audience is the LIVs. It is essential to his agenda that the next President be a democrat. And, Obama is well aware that it is the LIVs who will determine his successor. Along with the schools, the media is most responsible for establishing, advancing and sustaining that agenda. </p>
<p>If, &#8220;the truth shall set them free&#8221;, then for the Left, obstructing the truth, most of all from the LIVs is of critical importance. Reality however, will have its say and reality more than anything else is why the left&#8217;s agenda is ultimately, unsustainable. </p>
<p>The greater the denial and resistance, the harsher reality&#8217;s lessons.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2015 21:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Alinskyite ridicule can be very effective. Maybe our guys need to give it a whirl.&quot;

Conservatives are conservative because they generally have minds that do not delight in ridiculing; they generally have less interest in social crap and the joys or rolling around in it. In fact, they probably consider it objectively immoral.

For the &quot;progressive&quot; it is simply one more technique in their arsenal of realizing &quot;the world they dream&quot;. 

Reading, &quot;The Most Famous man in America&quot;, for all the book&#039;s serious flaws, and they are many, reminds me just how different the political progressive&#039;s mind actually is, and has been for 150 years.

They demonstrate a frantic emotional neediness for recognition and affirmation, that normal people, given the same rights and access to land and materials, just don&#039;t manifest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Alinskyite ridicule can be very effective. Maybe our guys need to give it a whirl.&#8221;</p>
<p>Conservatives are conservative because they generally have minds that do not delight in ridiculing; they generally have less interest in social crap and the joys or rolling around in it. In fact, they probably consider it objectively immoral.</p>
<p>For the &#8220;progressive&#8221; it is simply one more technique in their arsenal of realizing &#8220;the world they dream&#8221;. </p>
<p>Reading, &#8220;The Most Famous man in America&#8221;, for all the book&#8217;s serious flaws, and they are many, reminds me just how different the political progressive&#8217;s mind actually is, and has been for 150 years.</p>
<p>They demonstrate a frantic emotional neediness for recognition and affirmation, that normal people, given the same rights and access to land and materials, just don&#8217;t manifest.</p>
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		By: The Other Gary		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/11/03/standing-up-to-moderators-standing-up-to-putin/#comment-934610</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Other Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2015 21:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Obama the class act likes to ridicule the opposition:&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
...
&quot;Let me tell you, if you can&#039;t handle those guys [the CNBC debate moderators], then I don&#039;t think the Chinese and the Russians are going to be too worried about you,&quot; Obama said.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This, like many insults, falls apart under the light of reasoned examination: in the debate, Republicans forcefully rejected questions and behavior based on biased, fallacious assumptions. This is precisely what needs to be done in a negotiation when the other side makes demands, offers or statements based on biased, fallacious assumptions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Obama the class act likes to ridicule the opposition:</i></p>
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&#8220;Let me tell you, if you can&#8217;t handle those guys [the CNBC debate moderators], then I don&#8217;t think the Chinese and the Russians are going to be too worried about you,&#8221; Obama said.
</p></blockquote>
<p>This, like many insults, falls apart under the light of reasoned examination: in the debate, Republicans forcefully rejected questions and behavior based on biased, fallacious assumptions. This is precisely what needs to be done in a negotiation when the other side makes demands, offers or statements based on biased, fallacious assumptions.</p>
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