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		By: Orson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/29/post-debate-thoughts-harwood-and-media-lies/#comment-934530</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2015 13:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Professor Tim Groseclose. He&#039;s the greatest authority in scientifically documenting media bias.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Tim Groseclose. He&#8217;s the greatest authority in scientifically documenting media bias.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/29/post-debate-thoughts-harwood-and-media-lies/#comment-933792</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump is the internet&#039;s anti Leftist candidate, which is also beyond political movement at this rate and is fast turning into a cultural and religious motivating force.

But that&#039;s not because of Trump, anyone could have latched unto that power by now. They just chose not to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump is the internet&#8217;s anti Leftist candidate, which is also beyond political movement at this rate and is fast turning into a cultural and religious motivating force.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not because of Trump, anyone could have latched unto that power by now. They just chose not to.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 17:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many people have long thought that, regardless of its downside, Donald Trump&#039;s campaign has a vey important purpose is this election cycle.  On that point Michael Walsh chimes in with an important  observation: 
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;And finally – thanks largely to the huge ratings bonanza that is Donald Trump – the American people got a chance to see the true, ugly, partisan, smug, self-righteous face of what we used to call journalism . . . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The link:

http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2015/10/30/the-medias-potemkin-village-starts-to-topple/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people have long thought that, regardless of its downside, Donald Trump&#8217;s campaign has a vey important purpose is this election cycle.  On that point Michael Walsh chimes in with an important  observation: </p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>And finally – thanks largely to the huge ratings bonanza that is Donald Trump – the American people got a chance to see the true, ugly, partisan, smug, self-righteous face of what we used to call journalism . . . .</p></blockquote>
<p>The link:</p>
<p><a href="http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2015/10/30/the-medias-potemkin-village-starts-to-topple/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2015/10/30/the-medias-potemkin-village-starts-to-topple/</a></p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/29/post-debate-thoughts-harwood-and-media-lies/#comment-933781</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Left was never correct about media bias because it isn&#039;t a bias. It&#039;s a leftist intent to sabotage. So basically the Leftists are saying the media is made out of non Leftists... interesting convenience for propaganda.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Left was never correct about media bias because it isn&#8217;t a bias. It&#8217;s a leftist intent to sabotage. So basically the Leftists are saying the media is made out of non Leftists&#8230; interesting convenience for propaganda.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/29/post-debate-thoughts-harwood-and-media-lies/#comment-933779</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Media companies are all big corporations. Big corporations all favor the right. Therefore, media has a conservative bias, not a liberal one. QED&lt;/b&gt;

Just need two questions to demolish that.

Was the media supporting Bush II&#039;s war in Iraq when they reported on daily IED and military casualties?

Why would the right wing media with a conservative bias owned by big corporations, try to end a war that was making profit for the military contractor corporations?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Media companies are all big corporations. Big corporations all favor the right. Therefore, media has a conservative bias, not a liberal one. QED</b></p>
<p>Just need two questions to demolish that.</p>
<p>Was the media supporting Bush II&#8217;s war in Iraq when they reported on daily IED and military casualties?</p>
<p>Why would the right wing media with a conservative bias owned by big corporations, try to end a war that was making profit for the military contractor corporations?</p>
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		By: DK		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jeb is not the answer, but Jeb is right to criticize Rubio for campaigning on the taxpayer dime and collecting a paycheck for a job he won&#039;t do. Rubio needs to show up for work and do his job representing the people of Florida in the Senate -- or he should resign. If he can&#039;t show up for Senate votes and campaign at the same time, he can&#039;t handle the job of President. Is Rubio lazy or incompetent? Or is he not doing the work because he only cares about his own personal ambition to be President? Even Rubio&#039;s hometown paper has demanded he do his job or resign.

Zero accomplishments/ lazy career politician Rubio is unelectable anyway. He&#039;s unelectable to conservatives because he led the charge on amnesty for the undocumented. Even most pro-lifers are not against a rape exception, but Rubio said women should be forced to have their rapists&#039; babies. That makes him unelectable to liberals.  And his awful, bizarre plan to increase taxes on the middle class will make him unelectable to moderates.

Both would get shredded by the Clinton machine, but Jeb is right about Rubio. Rubio is unelectable because he has the Romney/Kerry problem: no core values besides his own ambition. Rubio tries to be everything to all people and thus has views that alienates every part of the political spectrum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeb is not the answer, but Jeb is right to criticize Rubio for campaigning on the taxpayer dime and collecting a paycheck for a job he won&#8217;t do. Rubio needs to show up for work and do his job representing the people of Florida in the Senate &#8212; or he should resign. If he can&#8217;t show up for Senate votes and campaign at the same time, he can&#8217;t handle the job of President. Is Rubio lazy or incompetent? Or is he not doing the work because he only cares about his own personal ambition to be President? Even Rubio&#8217;s hometown paper has demanded he do his job or resign.</p>
<p>Zero accomplishments/ lazy career politician Rubio is unelectable anyway. He&#8217;s unelectable to conservatives because he led the charge on amnesty for the undocumented. Even most pro-lifers are not against a rape exception, but Rubio said women should be forced to have their rapists&#8217; babies. That makes him unelectable to liberals.  And his awful, bizarre plan to increase taxes on the middle class will make him unelectable to moderates.</p>
<p>Both would get shredded by the Clinton machine, but Jeb is right about Rubio. Rubio is unelectable because he has the Romney/Kerry problem: no core values besides his own ambition. Rubio tries to be everything to all people and thus has views that alienates every part of the political spectrum.</p>
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		By: Bryan Lovely		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 06:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[... also, the fact that most of these people are about as far left as Mao Zedong (I live in Seattle), the fact that the media is not-quite-as-far-left as they are is taken as proof that the media is biased somewhere right of center.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; also, the fact that most of these people are about as far left as Mao Zedong (I live in Seattle), the fact that the media is not-quite-as-far-left as they are is taken as proof that the media is biased somewhere right of center.</p>
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		By: Bryan Lovely		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/29/post-debate-thoughts-harwood-and-media-lies/#comment-933680</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 06:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: &quot;conservative&quot; media bias:

Every time I have complained to a liberal friend/acquaintance about liberal media bias, with examples to boot, I get a reply to the effect of:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Your evidence is irrelevant. Media companies are all big corporations. Big corporations all favor the right. Therefore, media has a conservative bias, not a liberal one. QED.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Ignoring, of course, the traditional publisher/editor chinese wall, and ignoring the fact that big corporations are as likely as not these days to support the left.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;conservative&#8221; media bias:</p>
<p>Every time I have complained to a liberal friend/acquaintance about liberal media bias, with examples to boot, I get a reply to the effect of:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Your evidence is irrelevant. Media companies are all big corporations. Big corporations all favor the right. Therefore, media has a conservative bias, not a liberal one. QED.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Ignoring, of course, the traditional publisher/editor chinese wall, and ignoring the fact that big corporations are as likely as not these days to support the left.</p>
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		By: tonynoboloney		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/29/post-debate-thoughts-harwood-and-media-lies/#comment-933671</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tonynoboloney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 05:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Early in the article you talked of bias as &quot;dysfunctional&quot; thinking. Also the lefts belief in their own lies. You also spoke of Harwood and the other moderators as speaking &quot;stupidly&quot;, as well as having difficulty in remembering being caught in lies. This type of speaking and dysfunctional thinking is very common among marijuana smokers. Is it possible that Harwood and the other moderators as well as many on the left are just a bunch of stoners who cannot think or remember clearly? This might explain not only the MSM but also President Obama and Hillary Clinton. It sure is my pet theory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Early in the article you talked of bias as &#8220;dysfunctional&#8221; thinking. Also the lefts belief in their own lies. You also spoke of Harwood and the other moderators as speaking &#8220;stupidly&#8221;, as well as having difficulty in remembering being caught in lies. This type of speaking and dysfunctional thinking is very common among marijuana smokers. Is it possible that Harwood and the other moderators as well as many on the left are just a bunch of stoners who cannot think or remember clearly? This might explain not only the MSM but also President Obama and Hillary Clinton. It sure is my pet theory.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sirius33 Says: 
October 29th, 2015 at 9:15 pm
The questions were not aimed at substantive issues nor were they designed to prod the GOP candidates to attack one another.

Rather, the questions themselves were the attacks. They were designed to destroy the candidates. The answers were irrelevant. The damage was done when the question was asked.
* * *
Very true.  It is similar to newspapers printing their (deliberate) lies in bold caps on the front page and the later corrections (if any) in small print in the middle sections; or lawyers asking the witness &quot;Have you quit beating your wife?&quot; questions which they know the judge will tell the jury to disregard, even though they are nearly impossible to set aside once heard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sirius33 Says:<br />
October 29th, 2015 at 9:15 pm<br />
The questions were not aimed at substantive issues nor were they designed to prod the GOP candidates to attack one another.</p>
<p>Rather, the questions themselves were the attacks. They were designed to destroy the candidates. The answers were irrelevant. The damage was done when the question was asked.<br />
* * *<br />
Very true.  It is similar to newspapers printing their (deliberate) lies in bold caps on the front page and the later corrections (if any) in small print in the middle sections; or lawyers asking the witness &#8220;Have you quit beating your wife?&#8221; questions which they know the judge will tell the jury to disregard, even though they are nearly impossible to set aside once heard.</p>
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