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		By: Michael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting that the video clip attached to the story won&#039;t play because it has been blocked by NBC News, who apparently own the content.

Sour grapes here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that the video clip attached to the story won&#8217;t play because it has been blocked by NBC News, who apparently own the content.</p>
<p>Sour grapes here?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Propaganda and mind control isn&#039;t about convincing the true believers to switch, it&#039;s mostly about bolstering the sheer weight of fanaticism and critical mass, to the point where all the &quot;moderates&quot; and people who have no strong views, gravitate and Obey this column of fanaticism and red eyed zealotry.

The behavior of crowds, basically. People tend to go along with the flow that is the Mass in masses, because they outweigh you by about 50,000 to 1. It takes a lot of guts, spirit, and power of belief for 1 to match 50k.

It used to be that people didn&#039;t have contact with the slim minority of fanatics and true believers. Until the internet came along.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Propaganda and mind control isn&#8217;t about convincing the true believers to switch, it&#8217;s mostly about bolstering the sheer weight of fanaticism and critical mass, to the point where all the &#8220;moderates&#8221; and people who have no strong views, gravitate and Obey this column of fanaticism and red eyed zealotry.</p>
<p>The behavior of crowds, basically. People tend to go along with the flow that is the Mass in masses, because they outweigh you by about 50,000 to 1. It takes a lot of guts, spirit, and power of belief for 1 to match 50k.</p>
<p>It used to be that people didn&#8217;t have contact with the slim minority of fanatics and true believers. Until the internet came along.</p>
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		By: F		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MJR at 2:31:

So WaPost readers continue to be true believers?  I&#039;m not surprised.  But the race is tipped one way or the other by the undecided voters, and very few WaPost readers are undecided.  The hard core Ds will not be changing their vote even, as Neo has said before, if Hillary strangles puppies on live TV on the Capitol steps.  And the hard core Rs are similarly committed.  It is the 15-20% swing voters who will take one candidate or the other over 50%+1.

I doubt that the Cruz campaign cares what is in the WaPost half a much as they care what&#039;s in the Des Moines Register.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MJR at 2:31:</p>
<p>So WaPost readers continue to be true believers?  I&#8217;m not surprised.  But the race is tipped one way or the other by the undecided voters, and very few WaPost readers are undecided.  The hard core Ds will not be changing their vote even, as Neo has said before, if Hillary strangles puppies on live TV on the Capitol steps.  And the hard core Rs are similarly committed.  It is the 15-20% swing voters who will take one candidate or the other over 50%+1.</p>
<p>I doubt that the Cruz campaign cares what is in the WaPost half a much as they care what&#8217;s in the Des Moines Register.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom G Says: 
October 29th, 2015 at 6:17 am
Very glad that Cruz did note how the public doesn’t trust the Democratic media.

And Reps should be calling it the Dem Media, and acting like they are the enemy, ones forced by money/ job into contact.

* * *
I have been using the spelling DeMedia on most comment boards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom G Says:<br />
October 29th, 2015 at 6:17 am<br />
Very glad that Cruz did note how the public doesn’t trust the Democratic media.</p>
<p>And Reps should be calling it the Dem Media, and acting like they are the enemy, ones forced by money/ job into contact.</p>
<p>* * *<br />
I have been using the spelling DeMedia on most comment boards.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J.J. Says: 
October 29th, 2015 at 12:18 am Santelli and Cramer were brought in for “balance.” Did anyone notice how different their questions were?
* * *
Yes -- here.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/29/cnbcs-sshow-epic-proportions-full-moderator-breakdown/

&quot;Rick Santelli was the only titularly conservative person on the panel — and his questions were just fine.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.J. Says:<br />
October 29th, 2015 at 12:18 am Santelli and Cramer were brought in for “balance.” Did anyone notice how different their questions were?<br />
* * *<br />
Yes &#8212; here.<br />
<a href="http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/29/cnbcs-sshow-epic-proportions-full-moderator-breakdown/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/29/cnbcs-sshow-epic-proportions-full-moderator-breakdown/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Rick Santelli was the only titularly conservative person on the panel — and his questions were just fine.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[T Says: 
October 29th, 2015 at 12:28 pm
Bully for Ted Cruz! In the past I have noted on this thread my admiration of Newt Gingrich for doing the same thing (his personal baggage aside), and it’s not because I want to see the leftists receive some kind of comeuppance (although I do), but because, as Walter Hudson writes:

&lt;strong&gt;By accepting questions as asked, candidates concede the premises upon which those questions are based. In this way, the media is able to make statements in the guise of questions, and thus offer a biased political narrative in the guise of an interview. &lt;/strong&gt;Such rhetorical subterfuge is unacceptable and needs to be called out and countered, as Cruz did Wednesday night.

The link:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/10/28/what-ted-cruz-just-did-is-so-much-more-than-an-applause-line/

Furthermore, ” [Cruz] was so strong and powerful, and the crowd reacted so positively, that it gave the others the courage . . . .” [Neoneocon @12:48 am].

* * * 
Hudson is totally correct.
Thanks for the link.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T Says:<br />
October 29th, 2015 at 12:28 pm<br />
Bully for Ted Cruz! In the past I have noted on this thread my admiration of Newt Gingrich for doing the same thing (his personal baggage aside), and it’s not because I want to see the leftists receive some kind of comeuppance (although I do), but because, as Walter Hudson writes:</p>
<p><strong>By accepting questions as asked, candidates concede the premises upon which those questions are based. In this way, the media is able to make statements in the guise of questions, and thus offer a biased political narrative in the guise of an interview. </strong>Such rhetorical subterfuge is unacceptable and needs to be called out and countered, as Cruz did Wednesday night.</p>
<p>The link:</p>
<p><a href="http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/10/28/what-ted-cruz-just-did-is-so-much-more-than-an-applause-line/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/10/28/what-ted-cruz-just-did-is-so-much-more-than-an-applause-line/</a></p>
<p>Furthermore, ” [Cruz] was so strong and powerful, and the crowd reacted so positively, that it gave the others the courage . . . .” [Neoneocon @12:48 am].</p>
<p>* * *<br />
Hudson is totally correct.<br />
Thanks for the link.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia Says: 
October 29th, 2015 at 12:22 pm
This worked out so well for the Republicans I wondered if it were planned by the RNC. For the next two weeks whenever the MSM reports anything on the Republican or Democrat candidates the public will assume its propaganda.

&lt;strong&gt;Pity the candidates did not walk off the stage as a sign of contempt.&lt;/strong&gt;
* * *
If Carson &#038; the others get a plan going but aren&#039;t able to run the debates themselves, they may agree to do that.
I would love it.

At the very least, any moderator talking over the candidate should be pulled off the floor by one of those old-time vaudeville hooks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob From Virginia Says:<br />
October 29th, 2015 at 12:22 pm<br />
This worked out so well for the Republicans I wondered if it were planned by the RNC. For the next two weeks whenever the MSM reports anything on the Republican or Democrat candidates the public will assume its propaganda.</p>
<p><strong>Pity the candidates did not walk off the stage as a sign of contempt.</strong><br />
* * *<br />
If Carson &amp; the others get a plan going but aren&#8217;t able to run the debates themselves, they may agree to do that.<br />
I would love it.</p>
<p>At the very least, any moderator talking over the candidate should be pulled off the floor by one of those old-time vaudeville hooks.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[F Says: 
October 29th, 2015 at 9:38 am
A final question, though: where, in Boulder CO, that hotbed of liberal politics (especially on the campus of the university) did that audience come from? I expected them to sit on their hands when Cruz finished his takedown. Quite the opposite. Interesting. I know CO is still a purple state, but Boulder? Hmmm.
* * *
I had wondered that as well, so looked it up.
http://www.dailycamera.com/cu-news/ci_28839941/no-debating-it-gop-event-at-cu-boulder

Only 1000 tickets were available.
&quot;Though CU is hosting the event, the school will only squeak in a few dozen of its own.

&quot;We&#039;ll have a small representation of students and administrators and faculty,&quot; campus spokesman Bronson Hilliard....

Even Bruce Benson, the university&#039;s president, wasn&#039;t able to score more than a ticket for himself and a plus-one....

Local Republicans won&#039;t get preference, either. The GOP headquarters in both Broomfield and Boulder counties have been guaranteed zero seats.

&quot;I think they&#039;re already sold out to RNC donors, and local people won&#039;t get any,&quot; said Ellyn Hilliard, chair of the Boulder County Republicans. &quot;I don&#039;t even get any. It&#039;s an extremely limited, culled crowd. They culled it down to the people they wanted.&quot;
...
Aside from the small CU contingency at Coors, the crowd will have a heavy presence of representatives from the RNC and from CNBC, which is televising the debate. Plus, each candidate – there are 15 at the moment, but that number may shrink by Oct. 28 – is expected to bring an entourage of 20-40 people, Spicer said.

Of course, the crowd will be nearly matched in size by the roughly 1,000-piece expected media gaggle.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F Says:<br />
October 29th, 2015 at 9:38 am<br />
A final question, though: where, in Boulder CO, that hotbed of liberal politics (especially on the campus of the university) did that audience come from? I expected them to sit on their hands when Cruz finished his takedown. Quite the opposite. Interesting. I know CO is still a purple state, but Boulder? Hmmm.<br />
* * *<br />
I had wondered that as well, so looked it up.<br />
<a href="http://www.dailycamera.com/cu-news/ci_28839941/no-debating-it-gop-event-at-cu-boulder" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailycamera.com/cu-news/ci_28839941/no-debating-it-gop-event-at-cu-boulder</a></p>
<p>Only 1000 tickets were available.<br />
&#8220;Though CU is hosting the event, the school will only squeak in a few dozen of its own.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ll have a small representation of students and administrators and faculty,&#8221; campus spokesman Bronson Hilliard&#8230;.</p>
<p>Even Bruce Benson, the university&#8217;s president, wasn&#8217;t able to score more than a ticket for himself and a plus-one&#8230;.</p>
<p>Local Republicans won&#8217;t get preference, either. The GOP headquarters in both Broomfield and Boulder counties have been guaranteed zero seats.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think they&#8217;re already sold out to RNC donors, and local people won&#8217;t get any,&#8221; said Ellyn Hilliard, chair of the Boulder County Republicans. &#8220;I don&#8217;t even get any. It&#8217;s an extremely limited, culled crowd. They culled it down to the people they wanted.&#8221;<br />
&#8230;<br />
Aside from the small CU contingency at Coors, the crowd will have a heavy presence of representatives from the RNC and from CNBC, which is televising the debate. Plus, each candidate – there are 15 at the moment, but that number may shrink by Oct. 28 – is expected to bring an entourage of 20-40 people, Spicer said.</p>
<p>Of course, the crowd will be nearly matched in size by the roughly 1,000-piece expected media gaggle.&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2015 22:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;How many businesses/companies/buildings has Trump owned?&lt;/b&gt;

How many businesses did the government bail him out on?

This word switch routine is closer to deception than business.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>How many businesses/companies/buildings has Trump owned?</b></p>
<p>How many businesses did the government bail him out on?</p>
<p>This word switch routine is closer to deception than business.</p>
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		By: Don Fulano		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Fulano]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great points about group dynamics and leadership. I thought the little interchange that Ted Cruz had with Chris Christie after Christie&#039;s &quot;rude&quot; comment was especially interesting. I thought it was a good example of leadership by Cruz.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points about group dynamics and leadership. I thought the little interchange that Ted Cruz had with Chris Christie after Christie&#8217;s &#8220;rude&#8221; comment was especially interesting. I thought it was a good example of leadership by Cruz.</p>
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