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		By: RickZ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/08/i-think-i-shocked-some-of-you-huh/#comment-928128</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2015 10:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Personally, I don’t think that McCarthy would be withdrawing at this point if he hadn’t inadvertently given Democrats a beautiful talking point that they immediately twisted and exploited&lt;/blockquote&gt;

neo, the rumor going around D.C., and North Carolina, is McCarthy is/was having an affair with Renee Elmers, a &#039;conservative&#039; Republican recently elected from North Carolina who turned RINO once she got into Congress.  (The affair is an open secret to many North Carolinians as well as to many Congresspeeps.)  That&#039;s why Rep. Walter Jones, R-NC, sent a letter to House Republicans saying those who have skeletons in their closet should not run for speaker.  That letter came out and BOOM!, McCarthy pulled out of the running.  I&#039;d say that some &#039;cause and effect&#039; right there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Personally, I don’t think that McCarthy would be withdrawing at this point if he hadn’t inadvertently given Democrats a beautiful talking point that they immediately twisted and exploited</p></blockquote>
<p>neo, the rumor going around D.C., and North Carolina, is McCarthy is/was having an affair with Renee Elmers, a &#8216;conservative&#8217; Republican recently elected from North Carolina who turned RINO once she got into Congress.  (The affair is an open secret to many North Carolinians as well as to many Congresspeeps.)  That&#8217;s why Rep. Walter Jones, R-NC, sent a letter to House Republicans saying those who have skeletons in their closet should not run for speaker.  That letter came out and BOOM!, McCarthy pulled out of the running.  I&#8217;d say that some &#8217;cause and effect&#8217; right there.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/08/i-think-i-shocked-some-of-you-huh/#comment-928054</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt_SE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2015 04:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[McCarthy *might* have been a tiny bit more conservative and accommodating than Boehner, but he was still Boehner&#039;s creature.
He wasn&#039;t installed in that position so he could buck the establishment.

This is a Mexican standoff. The only way it will end is with a compromise candidate, or if the establishment finds a way to bribe/threaten enough of the House conservatives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCarthy *might* have been a tiny bit more conservative and accommodating than Boehner, but he was still Boehner&#8217;s creature.<br />
He wasn&#8217;t installed in that position so he could buck the establishment.</p>
<p>This is a Mexican standoff. The only way it will end is with a compromise candidate, or if the establishment finds a way to bribe/threaten enough of the House conservatives.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt_SE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2015 04:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.: Considering the recent education we&#039;ve gotten about a motion to vacate the Speaker&#039;s chair, Boehner&#039;s tenure would&#039;ve lasted 5 minutes if elected by Democrats.

A motion to vacate is privileged, and cannot be blocked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.: Considering the recent education we&#8217;ve gotten about a motion to vacate the Speaker&#8217;s chair, Boehner&#8217;s tenure would&#8217;ve lasted 5 minutes if elected by Democrats.</p>
<p>A motion to vacate is privileged, and cannot be blocked.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/08/i-think-i-shocked-some-of-you-huh/#comment-928051</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt_SE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2015 04:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A Speaker elected by majority Democratic votes in a Republican House would be the kiss of death. Very, very few Republicans would be able to defend that to their constituents, and few would try.

That was why Boehner never took that route, even though Dems would&#039;ve supported the whiny crybaby in an instant over a real conservative. It would&#039;ve been Boehner&#039;s last term in Congress if that had happened.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Speaker elected by majority Democratic votes in a Republican House would be the kiss of death. Very, very few Republicans would be able to defend that to their constituents, and few would try.</p>
<p>That was why Boehner never took that route, even though Dems would&#8217;ve supported the whiny crybaby in an instant over a real conservative. It would&#8217;ve been Boehner&#8217;s last term in Congress if that had happened.</p>
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		By: Roy Lofquist		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/08/i-think-i-shocked-some-of-you-huh/#comment-928004</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Lofquist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2015 02:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blert,

&quot;Representatives are not restricted to voting for one of the nominated candidates and may vote for any person, even for someone who is not a member of the House at all.&quot;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

Hypothetical: Peter King gains pledges from 29 Republicans and tells the Democrats. Come the vote 188 Democrats and 30 Republicans vote for King.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blert,</p>
<p>&#8220;Representatives are not restricted to voting for one of the nominated candidates and may vote for any person, even for someone who is not a member of the House at all.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives</a></p>
<p>Hypothetical: Peter King gains pledges from 29 Republicans and tells the Democrats. Come the vote 188 Democrats and 30 Republicans vote for King.</p>
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		By: davisbr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/08/i-think-i-shocked-some-of-you-huh/#comment-928000</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davisbr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2015 01:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...my first thought was &quot;what&#039;s Obama got on him?&quot; and the second was &quot;why O&#039; doesn&#039;t want Kev&#039; in particular?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;my first thought was &#8220;what&#8217;s Obama got on him?&#8221; and the second was &#8220;why O&#8217; doesn&#8217;t want Kev&#8217; in particular?&#8221;</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/08/i-think-i-shocked-some-of-you-huh/#comment-927994</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2015 01:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roy...

You are right and wrong.

It&#039;s a two-step procedure.

The Republicans pick their party&#039;s choice.

The Democrats caucus and pick their party&#039;s choice.

The final vote is a mere formality as no-one ever crosses the aisle.

No minority vote means anything at that point -- as the majority party will vote straight down the party line.

The Republicans will NOT let the vote even occur until they&#039;ve fallen into unity around a new Speaker.

This may actually entail bringing Newt back -- as a temp -- for just the next session. 

BTW, the Speaker can&#039;t vote on any bill. He&#039;s the Speaker.

If Newt were installed, the GOP would actually gain a vote because of this, not that their majority is hanging by a thread.

If HRC is our next president - I figure the Republic is finished.

America will have taken the same plunge as ancient Rome... with the legislature reduced to farce and corruption.

For HRC has all of the high hat of Barry -- with a LOT more industry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy&#8230;</p>
<p>You are right and wrong.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a two-step procedure.</p>
<p>The Republicans pick their party&#8217;s choice.</p>
<p>The Democrats caucus and pick their party&#8217;s choice.</p>
<p>The final vote is a mere formality as no-one ever crosses the aisle.</p>
<p>No minority vote means anything at that point &#8212; as the majority party will vote straight down the party line.</p>
<p>The Republicans will NOT let the vote even occur until they&#8217;ve fallen into unity around a new Speaker.</p>
<p>This may actually entail bringing Newt back &#8212; as a temp &#8212; for just the next session. </p>
<p>BTW, the Speaker can&#8217;t vote on any bill. He&#8217;s the Speaker.</p>
<p>If Newt were installed, the GOP would actually gain a vote because of this, not that their majority is hanging by a thread.</p>
<p>If HRC is our next president &#8211; I figure the Republic is finished.</p>
<p>America will have taken the same plunge as ancient Rome&#8230; with the legislature reduced to farce and corruption.</p>
<p>For HRC has all of the high hat of Barry &#8212; with a LOT more industry.</p>
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		By: Roy Lofquist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Lofquist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2015 00:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All 435 members vote for speaker on a secret ballot. It is conceivable that a liberal Republican, a distinct dark horse, might be nominated and then elected with the aid of unanimous support from the Democrats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All 435 members vote for speaker on a secret ballot. It is conceivable that a liberal Republican, a distinct dark horse, might be nominated and then elected with the aid of unanimous support from the Democrats.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/10/08/i-think-i-shocked-some-of-you-huh/#comment-927946</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 22:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Newt would be an ideal temporary Speaker.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newt would be an ideal temporary Speaker.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[expat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just hope this gives reps some time to think before they start tweeting how conservative they are or how realistic they are. They should all spend some time thinking about the skills needed for the job and the policy priorities the want to fight for. They do not need to give the MSM and Dems more opportunities to tell the world how fragmented and incapable the are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope this gives reps some time to think before they start tweeting how conservative they are or how realistic they are. They should all spend some time thinking about the skills needed for the job and the policy priorities the want to fight for. They do not need to give the MSM and Dems more opportunities to tell the world how fragmented and incapable the are.</p>
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