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		By: Sarah Rolph		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/09/30/russia-and-syria-maybe-this/#comment-925999</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 13:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The press conference with Carter was very depressing. I was going to tweet &quot;So Walter Matthau is our defense secretary now?&quot; but it wasn&#039;t funny. But that&#039;s what it felt like, as if the guy at the podium was acting, and he was stretching and reaching in a way that seemed like parody. I guess he was simply caught off guard. When he talked about budget details for much longer, and with more passion, than he talked about the national security crisis unfolding as he was speaking, and it was very much like a bad joke. Although it got worse when I realized he seems very worried indeed about the budget, which I suppose is a national security crisis in itself.

Then I watched the other SNL routine on the news, Kerry and Lavrov pretending to have an agreement. If it had been a skit instead of a horrible reality Kerry would have said &quot;we have come to an agreement. Mr. Lavrov has told me to fuck off and I have told him that I am looking into the appropriate process to be used in the event of fucking off, and we will be following up on this project in the coming weeks and months.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The press conference with Carter was very depressing. I was going to tweet &#8220;So Walter Matthau is our defense secretary now?&#8221; but it wasn&#8217;t funny. But that&#8217;s what it felt like, as if the guy at the podium was acting, and he was stretching and reaching in a way that seemed like parody. I guess he was simply caught off guard. When he talked about budget details for much longer, and with more passion, than he talked about the national security crisis unfolding as he was speaking, and it was very much like a bad joke. Although it got worse when I realized he seems very worried indeed about the budget, which I suppose is a national security crisis in itself.</p>
<p>Then I watched the other SNL routine on the news, Kerry and Lavrov pretending to have an agreement. If it had been a skit instead of a horrible reality Kerry would have said &#8220;we have come to an agreement. Mr. Lavrov has told me to fuck off and I have told him that I am looking into the appropriate process to be used in the event of fucking off, and we will be following up on this project in the coming weeks and months.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 12:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ T - good Kissinger quote.  I am keeping that.

Many good comments here.

As with the establishmen Republican who was complaining that the Tea Party leaning group just &quot;can&#039;t get to yes,&quot; there are people in DC who believe that their job is to get to some kind of deal.  To have no deal, to make something happen that everyone didn&#039;t join hands about, does not enter their heads.  So too here with Kerry.  He&#039;s afraid it will get complicated, and it will be hard to make a deal.

That idea is the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ T &#8211; good Kissinger quote.  I am keeping that.</p>
<p>Many good comments here.</p>
<p>As with the establishmen Republican who was complaining that the Tea Party leaning group just &#8220;can&#8217;t get to yes,&#8221; there are people in DC who believe that their job is to get to some kind of deal.  To have no deal, to make something happen that everyone didn&#8217;t join hands about, does not enter their heads.  So too here with Kerry.  He&#8217;s afraid it will get complicated, and it will be hard to make a deal.</p>
<p>That idea is the problem.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/09/30/russia-and-syria-maybe-this/#comment-925931</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 03:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;“It does appear that they were in areas where there probably … were not ISIL forces and that is precisely one of the problems with this whole approach,” said Carter.&lt;/b&gt;

I suspect they are lying about that one.

The reason why anti Assad forces are with ISIL is the same reason why Libyan rebels were with AQ. They don&#039;t have the data penetration to tell the difference, since it&#039;s not necessary for there to be a difference.

If they are determining ISIL forces from the groups that had US weapons sold to them, then their penetration of the organization layers there is almost zero. ISIL has expanded a lot since then.

&lt;b&gt;“But we must not and will not be confused in our fight against ISIL with support for Assad,&quot; he said. &quot;Moreover, we have also made clear that we would have grave concerns should Russia strike areas where ISIL and al Qaeda affiliated targets are not operating. Strikes of the kind would question Russia’s real intentions fighting ISIL or protecting the Assad regime.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

The Hussein REgime is running a black ops campaign to crack the Libyan and Syrian dictatorships. For their own reasons. They succeeded with Libya, they are still working on Syria.

That&#039;s why they are lying, this is a deception op. Or else we are supposed to believe Hussein was also fighting and bombing AQ in Libya, bombing ISIL when they took over parts of Syria and Iraq? If the US was serious about bombing ISIL, they would not have been able to take Iraqi cities at all, they would have been annihilated on the highways.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>“It does appear that they were in areas where there probably … were not ISIL forces and that is precisely one of the problems with this whole approach,” said Carter.</b></p>
<p>I suspect they are lying about that one.</p>
<p>The reason why anti Assad forces are with ISIL is the same reason why Libyan rebels were with AQ. They don&#8217;t have the data penetration to tell the difference, since it&#8217;s not necessary for there to be a difference.</p>
<p>If they are determining ISIL forces from the groups that had US weapons sold to them, then their penetration of the organization layers there is almost zero. ISIL has expanded a lot since then.</p>
<p><b>“But we must not and will not be confused in our fight against ISIL with support for Assad,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Moreover, we have also made clear that we would have grave concerns should Russia strike areas where ISIL and al Qaeda affiliated targets are not operating. Strikes of the kind would question Russia’s real intentions fighting ISIL or protecting the Assad regime.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>The Hussein REgime is running a black ops campaign to crack the Libyan and Syrian dictatorships. For their own reasons. They succeeded with Libya, they are still working on Syria.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why they are lying, this is a deception op. Or else we are supposed to believe Hussein was also fighting and bombing AQ in Libya, bombing ISIL when they took over parts of Syria and Iraq? If the US was serious about bombing ISIL, they would not have been able to take Iraqi cities at all, they would have been annihilated on the highways.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/09/30/russia-and-syria-maybe-this/#comment-925929</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 03:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Time to leave well-enough alone.&lt;/b&gt;

Ironic that you would phrase it like that because:

Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.- You know Who M O

Never allow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Time to leave well-enough alone.</b></p>
<p>Ironic that you would phrase it like that because:</p>
<p>Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.- You know Who M O</p>
<p>Never allow.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/09/30/russia-and-syria-maybe-this/#comment-925925</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 03:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;What is he going to do… send a drone to assassinate Vlad?&lt;/b&gt;

That depends on what Russia views as a step too far that endangers their interests. Same for China. If the Chinese think our black ops are blowing up their economic infrastructure, even if that is fake intel, they may act upon it by sinking a US carrier, as a prelude to invading Taiwan or Japan or South Korea.

Chinese internal pressure must be relieved, and a short victorious war overseas is just the ticket for many such regimes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>What is he going to do… send a drone to assassinate Vlad?</b></p>
<p>That depends on what Russia views as a step too far that endangers their interests. Same for China. If the Chinese think our black ops are blowing up their economic infrastructure, even if that is fake intel, they may act upon it by sinking a US carrier, as a prelude to invading Taiwan or Japan or South Korea.</p>
<p>Chinese internal pressure must be relieved, and a short victorious war overseas is just the ticket for many such regimes.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 03:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Assad should be backed or left alone by the US. He may have been &quot;not nice,&quot; but he was never a madman.
Look at all the hornet&#039;s nests kicked over by Obama, and all the swarms that now surround us.

Time to leave well-enough alone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Assad should be backed or left alone by the US. He may have been &#8220;not nice,&#8221; but he was never a madman.<br />
Look at all the hornet&#8217;s nests kicked over by Obama, and all the swarms that now surround us.</p>
<p>Time to leave well-enough alone.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 03:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IMO, bho actually believes his mere words will win through... lowering sea levels, cooling the planet, red lines, bring a gun to a knife fight, we are the ones we have been waiting for, blah, blah. The very idea of a hot war with Russia is not a part of his MO. What is he going to do... send a drone to assassinate Vlad?

Russia, China, and Iran, to name a few, are not impressed. Putin, rightly so, does not see bho as presenting a credible threat to whatever it is he wants to do in the ME, Ukraine, or elsewhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, bho actually believes his mere words will win through&#8230; lowering sea levels, cooling the planet, red lines, bring a gun to a knife fight, we are the ones we have been waiting for, blah, blah. The very idea of a hot war with Russia is not a part of his MO. What is he going to do&#8230; send a drone to assassinate Vlad?</p>
<p>Russia, China, and Iran, to name a few, are not impressed. Putin, rightly so, does not see bho as presenting a credible threat to whatever it is he wants to do in the ME, Ukraine, or elsewhere.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 00:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt; but he certainly has a messiah complex and sincerely believes he is the fairest of them all.&lt;/b&gt;

But isn&#039;t that what causes wars due to misunderstandings? When a person thinks they cannot lose, it is more likely they are to aggravate issues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> but he certainly has a messiah complex and sincerely believes he is the fairest of them all.</b></p>
<p>But isn&#8217;t that what causes wars due to misunderstandings? When a person thinks they cannot lose, it is more likely they are to aggravate issues.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2015 23:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Granted bho is not the puppet master of the leftist cabal, but he certainly has a messiah complex and sincerely believes he is the fairest of them all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted bho is not the puppet master of the leftist cabal, but he certainly has a messiah complex and sincerely believes he is the fairest of them all.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/09/30/russia-and-syria-maybe-this/#comment-925854</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2015 22:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To anti Americans, it doesn&#039;t really matter what Hussein&#039;s desire is. Hussein isn&#039;t pulling all the strings of the Left. If he were, was the Left merely a joke and clown without a clown car, before 2007?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anti Americans, it doesn&#8217;t really matter what Hussein&#8217;s desire is. Hussein isn&#8217;t pulling all the strings of the Left. If he were, was the Left merely a joke and clown without a clown car, before 2007?</p>
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