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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[75% of the KGB&#039;s funding was for disinformation and demoralization of the West.

Which means even if the KKK was a white local organization, there&#039;s a big difference between the KKK when it was locally funded, when the KKK was funded by the Robert KKK Byrds, and when the KKK was funded by Democrats that were funded by the Soviets.

It&#039;s a tier effect, where the larger the funding, the more influence people can have.

As for attacks coming from within, that&#039;s what the KGB propagandists were using the funds for, to convert and subvert local agents that would act as saboteurs or double agents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>75% of the KGB&#8217;s funding was for disinformation and demoralization of the West.</p>
<p>Which means even if the KKK was a white local organization, there&#8217;s a big difference between the KKK when it was locally funded, when the KKK was funded by the Robert KKK Byrds, and when the KKK was funded by Democrats that were funded by the Soviets.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tier effect, where the larger the funding, the more influence people can have.</p>
<p>As for attacks coming from within, that&#8217;s what the KGB propagandists were using the funds for, to convert and subvert local agents that would act as saboteurs or double agents.</p>
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		By: Phil D		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 22:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, Blert, can&#039;t agree with you there. The nihilistic &quot;Sex &#038; Drugs &#038; Rock &#038; Roll&quot; wasn&#039;t imposed from the outside. That came from within. I remember reading &quot;Helter Skelter&quot;, about the Manson murders, and thinking that almost everyone mentioned seemed to be on the drugs. And California was still &quot;Republican&quot; at the time!


The fact that you yourself write;
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&quot;The MSM LOVES the Big State. Expansive government means more job slots for the MSM. Expansive private commerce does not.

Hence the MSM is overrun with ideological lobbyists… always flogging the public for more government, more invasive meddling, more, more, more.

We’re being attacked by social parasitism. Once weakened, attacks will come from all quarters.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

disproofs your point because, after all, no foreign army installed the MSM.

Of course we were/are under attack. But that has always been the case. From proverbs &quot;Adversity kills only where there is a weakness to be killed&quot;.

Also I&#039;m reminded of the following quip;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot;If an unfriendly foreign power had attempted to impose on America the mediocre educational performance that exists today, we might well have viewed it as an act of war.&quot;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Nation_at_Risk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;A Nation at Risk (&lt;b&gt;1983&lt;/b&gt;)&quot;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The point of course being that NO foreign power had done that, it was self-inflicted.

It is same for Europe and my part of it. We have thrown our own heritage overboard because we no longer saw a need for it. Perhaps in the end it&#039;s a prosperity disease.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Blert, can&#8217;t agree with you there. The nihilistic &#8220;Sex &amp; Drugs &amp; Rock &amp; Roll&#8221; wasn&#8217;t imposed from the outside. That came from within. I remember reading &#8220;Helter Skelter&#8221;, about the Manson murders, and thinking that almost everyone mentioned seemed to be on the drugs. And California was still &#8220;Republican&#8221; at the time!</p>
<p>The fact that you yourself write;</p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8220;The MSM LOVES the Big State. Expansive government means more job slots for the MSM. Expansive private commerce does not.</p>
<p>Hence the MSM is overrun with ideological lobbyists… always flogging the public for more government, more invasive meddling, more, more, more.</p>
<p>We’re being attacked by social parasitism. Once weakened, attacks will come from all quarters.&#8221;
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<p>disproofs your point because, after all, no foreign army installed the MSM.</p>
<p>Of course we were/are under attack. But that has always been the case. From proverbs &#8220;Adversity kills only where there is a weakness to be killed&#8221;.</p>
<p>Also I&#8217;m reminded of the following quip;</p>
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&#8220;If an unfriendly foreign power had attempted to impose on America the mediocre educational performance that exists today, we might well have viewed it as an act of war.&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Nation_at_Risk" rel="nofollow">&#8220;A Nation at Risk (<b>1983</b>)&#8221;</a>
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<p>The point of course being that NO foreign power had done that, it was self-inflicted.</p>
<p>It is same for Europe and my part of it. We have thrown our own heritage overboard because we no longer saw a need for it. Perhaps in the end it&#8217;s a prosperity disease.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Phil D Says:
September 29th, 2015 at 3:41 pm

People say that this is cultural suicide and of course they are right.
But I would rather say that this is the result of cultural suicide.

%%

Wrong.

It&#039;s an attack, plain and simple.

Bezmenov spelled out the systemic nature of the social warfare attack thirty-years ago.

The cultural suicide you post of is not a suicide because it&#039;s initiated from the outside.

The KGB was entirely behind the rise of Islamism -- which the various players were at pains to point out after the Cold War ended.

Islamism = Islam + Communism ::  30% + 70%

That Islamism is a fusion of Islam and Communism is still roundly denied. Indeed, the MSM flatly refuses to accept Bolshevik ideals as being perverted. Hence, you never hear any MSM outlet whisper about the Bolshevik structure of the jihadi state. Yes, it&#039;s all top-down, with no elections ever.

The MSM LOVES the Big State. Expansive government means more job slots for the MSM. Expansive private commerce does not.

Hence the MSM is overrun with ideological lobbyists... always flogging the public for more government, more invasive meddling, more, more, more.

We&#039;re being attacked by social parasitism. Once weakened, attacks will come from all quarters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil D Says:<br />
September 29th, 2015 at 3:41 pm</p>
<p>People say that this is cultural suicide and of course they are right.<br />
But I would rather say that this is the result of cultural suicide.</p>
<p>%%</p>
<p>Wrong.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an attack, plain and simple.</p>
<p>Bezmenov spelled out the systemic nature of the social warfare attack thirty-years ago.</p>
<p>The cultural suicide you post of is not a suicide because it&#8217;s initiated from the outside.</p>
<p>The KGB was entirely behind the rise of Islamism &#8212; which the various players were at pains to point out after the Cold War ended.</p>
<p>Islamism = Islam + Communism ::  30% + 70%</p>
<p>That Islamism is a fusion of Islam and Communism is still roundly denied. Indeed, the MSM flatly refuses to accept Bolshevik ideals as being perverted. Hence, you never hear any MSM outlet whisper about the Bolshevik structure of the jihadi state. Yes, it&#8217;s all top-down, with no elections ever.</p>
<p>The MSM LOVES the Big State. Expansive government means more job slots for the MSM. Expansive private commerce does not.</p>
<p>Hence the MSM is overrun with ideological lobbyists&#8230; always flogging the public for more government, more invasive meddling, more, more, more.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re being attacked by social parasitism. Once weakened, attacks will come from all quarters.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People say that this is cultural suicide and of course they are right.
But I would rather say that this is the &lt;b&gt;result&lt;/b&gt; of cultural suicide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People say that this is cultural suicide and of course they are right.<br />
But I would rather say that this is the <b>result</b> of cultural suicide.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/tim-larkin-banned-from-the-united-kingdom/

I always suspected or just knew in my guts, that the UK didn&#039;t want Larkin there because he was giving the people of Britain real weapons to use against domestic terrorists and rapists.

Of course back then it wasn&#039;t popular to talk like a mad man online about stuff that nobody had &quot;proof&quot; on. Well, we all know why there was no &quot;proof&quot; back then, eh.

This was around 2012.

There are a bunch of BBC and other British propaganda articles about this incident online, just look em up if you want to read that stuff.

I have a tendency, some call it a paranoia, to believe the worst about autocracies and members of the Leftist alliance, whether they are small time NGOs, governments, or individual leaders. The more social authority, awards, and titles they throw at me, the more hostile I become.

Sometimes, ladies and gentlemen, the worst is true and also untrue. Because the worst is only what you can imagine, what I can imagine and what you can imagine, are perhaps different scales of the same spectrum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/tim-larkin-banned-from-the-united-kingdom/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/tim-larkin-banned-from-the-united-kingdom/</a></p>
<p>I always suspected or just knew in my guts, that the UK didn&#8217;t want Larkin there because he was giving the people of Britain real weapons to use against domestic terrorists and rapists.</p>
<p>Of course back then it wasn&#8217;t popular to talk like a mad man online about stuff that nobody had &#8220;proof&#8221; on. Well, we all know why there was no &#8220;proof&#8221; back then, eh.</p>
<p>This was around 2012.</p>
<p>There are a bunch of BBC and other British propaganda articles about this incident online, just look em up if you want to read that stuff.</p>
<p>I have a tendency, some call it a paranoia, to believe the worst about autocracies and members of the Leftist alliance, whether they are small time NGOs, governments, or individual leaders. The more social authority, awards, and titles they throw at me, the more hostile I become.</p>
<p>Sometimes, ladies and gentlemen, the worst is true and also untrue. Because the worst is only what you can imagine, what I can imagine and what you can imagine, are perhaps different scales of the same spectrum.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;but that cant be done as they keep switching labels to take the cache of other labels. in the early days they were anarchists, but that was hated, and they changed to communists… but still some anarchists exist… and they increased their division.. then they changed their name and didnt use communist as that became a bad word, so they switched to socialist…&lt;/b&gt;

An org or an army can change their leadership and label all they want. They are still going to have to get food and the sinews of war, money, from sources which can be traced.

A bunch of white KKK nationalists are of little threat to the racial integrity of America, until they are funded by the Demoncrat party, for example Robert KKK Byrd.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>but that cant be done as they keep switching labels to take the cache of other labels. in the early days they were anarchists, but that was hated, and they changed to communists… but still some anarchists exist… and they increased their division.. then they changed their name and didnt use communist as that became a bad word, so they switched to socialist…</b></p>
<p>An org or an army can change their leadership and label all they want. They are still going to have to get food and the sinews of war, money, from sources which can be traced.</p>
<p>A bunch of white KKK nationalists are of little threat to the racial integrity of America, until they are funded by the Demoncrat party, for example Robert KKK Byrd.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the EU insured compliance in various ways and with lots of tricks.. one of the most useful was was that brussels, the home of marx and das capitol, decided to be able to make laws against speech that became law in all the lands without having to play the games that our freedom of speech and structure makes very hard. (and why the idea of removing states power to the fed so as to make the same thing here... an easy way to make X the law of the land)
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&lt;i&gt;Since the end of World War II, many European countries have witnessed a proliferation of hate speech legislation designed to curb incitement to racial and religious hatred. Though originally intended to guard against the kind of xenophobic and anti-Semitic propaganda that gave rise to the Holocaust, today, national hate speech laws have increasingly been invoked to criminalize speech that is merely deemed insulting to one&#039;s race, ethnicity, religion, or nationality. Under the guise of tolerance and co-existence, Islamists have often manipulated such laws in a bid to monopolize debate and define what is beyond the pale of permissible public discussion.&lt;/i&gt;

yes... once you create a prohibition, your picking sides even if you dont want to... playing favorites even if that is not your goal. but dont worry, you can just ignore that and pretend that isnt so... what are they going to do, remove you? 

&lt;b&gt;In large part, the movement to circumscribe the bounds of free expression has its roots in three instruments of international law–the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD), and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).&lt;/b&gt;

the rules are simple which makes them effective

if you use a forbidden word, your argument, reason, thoughts, etc... are to be automatically negated... marginalized... etc. 

the punishment may be social banishment (marginalization), banishment to prison (criminal action), the erasing of your works or position (stalinism), banishment from the country, unemployment, and in some cases death (see back stabbed van gogh)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the EU insured compliance in various ways and with lots of tricks.. one of the most useful was was that brussels, the home of marx and das capitol, decided to be able to make laws against speech that became law in all the lands without having to play the games that our freedom of speech and structure makes very hard. (and why the idea of removing states power to the fed so as to make the same thing here&#8230; an easy way to make X the law of the land)<br />
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<i>Since the end of World War II, many European countries have witnessed a proliferation of hate speech legislation designed to curb incitement to racial and religious hatred. Though originally intended to guard against the kind of xenophobic and anti-Semitic propaganda that gave rise to the Holocaust, today, national hate speech laws have increasingly been invoked to criminalize speech that is merely deemed insulting to one&#8217;s race, ethnicity, religion, or nationality. Under the guise of tolerance and co-existence, Islamists have often manipulated such laws in a bid to monopolize debate and define what is beyond the pale of permissible public discussion.</i></p>
<p>yes&#8230; once you create a prohibition, your picking sides even if you dont want to&#8230; playing favorites even if that is not your goal. but dont worry, you can just ignore that and pretend that isnt so&#8230; what are they going to do, remove you? </p>
<p><b>In large part, the movement to circumscribe the bounds of free expression has its roots in three instruments of international law–the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD), and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).</b></p>
<p>the rules are simple which makes them effective</p>
<p>if you use a forbidden word, your argument, reason, thoughts, etc&#8230; are to be automatically negated&#8230; marginalized&#8230; etc. </p>
<p>the punishment may be social banishment (marginalization), banishment to prison (criminal action), the erasing of your works or position (stalinism), banishment from the country, unemployment, and in some cases death (see back stabbed van gogh)<br />
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr:

Vulgarity and obscenity is not the same as strong or powerful words. In fact, they are weak words that turn people away and shut people down, and make the speaker less credible rather than more, and less likely to be listened to.

Strong words that actually mean something and convey something important without obscenity are quite different.  There are indeed outlets that won&#039;t use them, such as the rule that many news outlets put in place a while back against using the word &quot;terrorist.&quot;  That is the sort of insidious problem that you are describing, and that blogs like this one fight against.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr:</p>
<p>Vulgarity and obscenity is not the same as strong or powerful words. In fact, they are weak words that turn people away and shut people down, and make the speaker less credible rather than more, and less likely to be listened to.</p>
<p>Strong words that actually mean something and convey something important without obscenity are quite different.  There are indeed outlets that won&#8217;t use them, such as the rule that many news outlets put in place a while back against using the word &#8220;terrorist.&#8221;  That is the sort of insidious problem that you are describing, and that blogs like this one fight against.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar Says: &lt;i&gt;As for the inevitability of Civil War II in America post 2007, it didn’t take a genius to figure out how to connect the dots. All you have to do is connect the dots and see the Left for what they really were.&lt;/i&gt;

but that cant be done as they keep switching labels to take the cache of other labels. in the early days they were anarchists, but that was hated, and they changed to communists... but still some anarchists exist... and they increased their division.. then they changed their name and didnt use communist as that became a bad word, so they switched to socialist... or progressive.. they labeled their organizations leagues, but when people got clued to league they changed to peoples, and now, its democracy, or some other. 

the bad always hides behind good words nad makes bad words illegal, or forbidden. 

we use words to think... 
so doing that stops thinking

if you live under other regimes this is somethign you learn, but americans have a very poor grasp of it.. which is why they are falling victim to it.

WE refuse to tell mrs grundy to go fly a kite.. 
Grundy runs everything and to quote pink floyd

Hate-Speech Laws Aren’t the Answer to Islamic Extremism–They’re Part of the Problem
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/411361/hate-speech-laws-arent-answer-islamic-extremism-theyre-part-problem-nina-shea
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar Says: <i>As for the inevitability of Civil War II in America post 2007, it didn’t take a genius to figure out how to connect the dots. All you have to do is connect the dots and see the Left for what they really were.</i></p>
<p>but that cant be done as they keep switching labels to take the cache of other labels. in the early days they were anarchists, but that was hated, and they changed to communists&#8230; but still some anarchists exist&#8230; and they increased their division.. then they changed their name and didnt use communist as that became a bad word, so they switched to socialist&#8230; or progressive.. they labeled their organizations leagues, but when people got clued to league they changed to peoples, and now, its democracy, or some other. </p>
<p>the bad always hides behind good words nad makes bad words illegal, or forbidden. </p>
<p>we use words to think&#8230;<br />
so doing that stops thinking</p>
<p>if you live under other regimes this is somethign you learn, but americans have a very poor grasp of it.. which is why they are falling victim to it.</p>
<p>WE refuse to tell mrs grundy to go fly a kite..<br />
Grundy runs everything and to quote pink floyd</p>
<p>Hate-Speech Laws Aren’t the Answer to Islamic Extremism–They’re Part of the Problem<br />
<a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/article/411361/hate-speech-laws-arent-answer-islamic-extremism-theyre-part-problem-nina-shea" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nationalreview.com/article/411361/hate-speech-laws-arent-answer-islamic-extremism-theyre-part-problem-nina-shea</a><br />
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					<description><![CDATA[We have to wait till the good words are perceived as bad before it will change... as we cant use bad words and cant properly label things. 

its a game of words... 
you cant turn people away from things if you cant use terms that turn them away... madison ave will teach you that... 

thats the whole point of hate speech laws
its the whole point of easyspeak
its the whole point of Sprachregelung 

you control people by changing how they think and you change how they think by forbidding language that would set them free... (and that language is always disliked)

how can you tell the world what they are like if your not allowed to use negative shocking terms and are not allowed to even describe the essence of somethign in a way that brings its nature and focus home? 

its why the US lasted so long with freedom of speech we no longer have, and why these other places got rid of that stuff as fast as possible

without that... there is no way for the people to be free... as they cant even think in terms that would allow them to make conclusions or considerations when all they are allowed to say and think is what the society allows. 

after all, its not the state that acts like police
its the tiny places all over that do the heavy lifting
the schools, the organizations, the news, the tv, the radio, the blogs... getting them all in line, who would dare try to assail that with language that is forbidden?  

not I
it results in the deputies of the zeigeist correcting things to the point were there can be no REAL oppositoin or even honesty... 

the most overt thing might be hate speech laws
but the same is true in the tiny forms which impose a pavolivan outcome.. 

This is what Germany and Russia made so clear last century and why the language games of feminism and then the language games of racialists and then the language games of eu islamics. 

its why the president will deem the proper term for terrorism is man made disasters... 

why do that? 

because terrorism as a word is vulgar to the sensibilities of the cadre... and the other thing causes things not part of it to be included and then dilute the meanings. 

imagine if tolstoy was only allowed to use half the disctionary with the other half verboten? would we still think his works great? 

after all, we are now going to remove samuel clemens from the bookshelves cause the word ni**er is in the books... and ni**er is a vulgar word... just ask lenny bruce. 

funny, but the people at the forefront of this in history are the people that rule the roost... the women, not the men... 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have to wait till the good words are perceived as bad before it will change&#8230; as we cant use bad words and cant properly label things. </p>
<p>its a game of words&#8230;<br />
you cant turn people away from things if you cant use terms that turn them away&#8230; madison ave will teach you that&#8230; </p>
<p>thats the whole point of hate speech laws<br />
its the whole point of easyspeak<br />
its the whole point of Sprachregelung </p>
<p>you control people by changing how they think and you change how they think by forbidding language that would set them free&#8230; (and that language is always disliked)</p>
<p>how can you tell the world what they are like if your not allowed to use negative shocking terms and are not allowed to even describe the essence of somethign in a way that brings its nature and focus home? </p>
<p>its why the US lasted so long with freedom of speech we no longer have, and why these other places got rid of that stuff as fast as possible</p>
<p>without that&#8230; there is no way for the people to be free&#8230; as they cant even think in terms that would allow them to make conclusions or considerations when all they are allowed to say and think is what the society allows. </p>
<p>after all, its not the state that acts like police<br />
its the tiny places all over that do the heavy lifting<br />
the schools, the organizations, the news, the tv, the radio, the blogs&#8230; getting them all in line, who would dare try to assail that with language that is forbidden?  </p>
<p>not I<br />
it results in the deputies of the zeigeist correcting things to the point were there can be no REAL oppositoin or even honesty&#8230; </p>
<p>the most overt thing might be hate speech laws<br />
but the same is true in the tiny forms which impose a pavolivan outcome.. </p>
<p>This is what Germany and Russia made so clear last century and why the language games of feminism and then the language games of racialists and then the language games of eu islamics. </p>
<p>its why the president will deem the proper term for terrorism is man made disasters&#8230; </p>
<p>why do that? </p>
<p>because terrorism as a word is vulgar to the sensibilities of the cadre&#8230; and the other thing causes things not part of it to be included and then dilute the meanings. </p>
<p>imagine if tolstoy was only allowed to use half the disctionary with the other half verboten? would we still think his works great? </p>
<p>after all, we are now going to remove samuel clemens from the bookshelves cause the word ni**er is in the books&#8230; and ni**er is a vulgar word&#8230; just ask lenny bruce. </p>
<p>funny, but the people at the forefront of this in history are the people that rule the roost&#8230; the women, not the men&#8230; </p>
<p>the hand who rocks the cradle rules the world</p>
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