My cleverness is less clever than I had thought. But that usually is the case with me.

Thank you all.

South Vietnam was the first ally that we completely betrayed (by not providing with the promised materiel once the Democrats had Nixon by the short and curls). But it has become a standard practice.

But I was there and though not a participant I was a keen observer of what my cohort was up to and what motivated it.

And if anyone thinks we were wrong to be involved in Vietnam and justified in abandoning them, I have four words, North Korea/South Korea.

Another laboratory that is conveniently ignored by the powers that be.

All what that means is that the Western Allies had the same choices as Chamberlain had (which is rather my point).
I don’t think that Chamberlain was expected to go to war in 1938. What he could have done was to use diplomatic means and simply refuse to accept a fait accompli. What he did after Munich was to make Poland a red line not to be crossed by Germany, and declare war on Germany after they crossed that line.
The Western Allies had the same choice and the choice they made was kissing up a regime of mass murderers who were just as responsible as Hitler for WW2.

“also, you’re forgetting that FDR died before the end of WW2. was Truman also a communist sympathizer?”
FDR sold out to Stalin in Yalta and before. I already mentioned the recognition of the USSR in 1933. Truman wasn’t a sympathizer but he didn’t see “things as they are” so to speak. And one thing he did was founding the UN together with Stalin. Von Ribbentrop of the Molotov-Von Ribbentrop pact (aka Hitler-Stalin pact) would be hanged in Nuremberg for his part, Molotov would go on to become Mr. Njet of the UN. When people lambaste the UN they should remember that the UN is the bastard child of the USSR as well as the USA. A child of mass murderer and idiocy.

Hidden deals between USSR leaders and American Communist sympathizers like FDR, are not “inevitable”. What was inevitable is that an alliance between the USSR and America would either save both or destroy both.

Given modern outcomes, it is much closer to the latter than the former.

Explanations are not excuses. And boy, that last paragraph of mine in the post sure doesn’t sound to me like it’s offering excuses:

We cannot exercise common sense–which we should rename uncommon sense, because that’s what it has become. We cannot stick up for ourselves, cannot look out for our interests, and have given all of that up for a combination of self-righteous moral preening and a lack of critical thinking so profound that most people don’t even know what Obama has done and what it means.

In my experience—and I know a LOT of Obama supporters—most people are neither malicious nor vindictive. Au contraire, actually. Of course, some are. But not the vast majority.

I’m getting that “deja vu all over again” feeling. We’ve had this argument many many times before on this blog.

Also, they’re all guilty too. The Left is not such a weak organization that its evil can be counter acted by being an American or a Republican. If you touch evil and stay around zombies, sooner or later you’ll become infected. Then you’ll be just as guilty as they are.

Want the truth about why? Maybe the people who voted for Obama are every bit as malicious and vindictive as he is.

In fact, that is what they are. Neither complicated nor shocking. The human heart is as it has always been – oft times rotten to the very core. Hannah Arendt had it right about the banality of evil.

Why seek to excuse the behavior away with euphemistic yada yada about losing courage – like it was car keys or something, a simple mistake.

Truth: Rotten hearts do rotten things.
Will set you free: Okay, how do we heal our rotten hearts.