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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/09/22/hey-ive-got-an-idea-how-about-telling-the-truth/#comment-924491</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Sharon, and that is merely an earl or duke level religious leader with little to no secular power/land. Imagine what a full Caliph, with his secular and religious authority, would get from faithful Muslims.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon, and that is merely an earl or duke level religious leader with little to no secular power/land. Imagine what a full Caliph, with his secular and religious authority, would get from faithful Muslims.</p>
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		By: Sharon W		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/09/22/hey-ive-got-an-idea-how-about-telling-the-truth/#comment-924014</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 15:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;carry-away&quot; for me from Andy Mc Carthy&#039;s book Willful Blindness (was there ever a better title?) was when he wrote that as lead prosecutor of the blind sheik, when he had &quot;moderate Muslims&quot; on the stand and asked about a point of Islam, they would demur and point to the Iman and say only he could answer.  That is a HUGE divergence from western faiths.  Ask any &quot;moderate Christian or Jew&quot; about a point of the faith and they will gladly offer their answer, or simply say, &quot;I don&#039;t know&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;carry-away&#8221; for me from Andy Mc Carthy&#8217;s book Willful Blindness (was there ever a better title?) was when he wrote that as lead prosecutor of the blind sheik, when he had &#8220;moderate Muslims&#8221; on the stand and asked about a point of Islam, they would demur and point to the Iman and say only he could answer.  That is a HUGE divergence from western faiths.  Ask any &#8220;moderate Christian or Jew&#8221; about a point of the faith and they will gladly offer their answer, or simply say, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Constitution, as Carly said, allows any person of any religion to become President.
But did Carson say a Muslim could not become President, (factually wrong) or rather none should become President, his own opinion.  Which I fully agree with.

Bush was wrong to falsely claim that Islam is the religion of &quot;Peace&quot;, it is the religion of &quot;Submission&quot;-to the will of Allah- according to some Caliph/ mullah or another.

Islamic Muslims do not agree with Freedom of Religion, the ability of Muslim raised person to leave Islam and convert.

No US politician, nor in Europe, should be supported who fails to support Freedom of Religion.

Note that Islam is intolerant of any non-Muslims even entering Mecca.  Acceptance of such intolerance should have disallowed membership in the UN -- but did not, because so many are Muslims.

In Europe, I would advocate all refugees signing documents renouncing particular Muslim intolerances, and be deported if their behavior changes.

The Islamic invasion is now more clearly occuring -- is it too late to save the West?  (Christian values, Market Capitalism in creating economic wealth)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Constitution, as Carly said, allows any person of any religion to become President.<br />
But did Carson say a Muslim could not become President, (factually wrong) or rather none should become President, his own opinion.  Which I fully agree with.</p>
<p>Bush was wrong to falsely claim that Islam is the religion of &#8220;Peace&#8221;, it is the religion of &#8220;Submission&#8221;-to the will of Allah- according to some Caliph/ mullah or another.</p>
<p>Islamic Muslims do not agree with Freedom of Religion, the ability of Muslim raised person to leave Islam and convert.</p>
<p>No US politician, nor in Europe, should be supported who fails to support Freedom of Religion.</p>
<p>Note that Islam is intolerant of any non-Muslims even entering Mecca.  Acceptance of such intolerance should have disallowed membership in the UN &#8212; but did not, because so many are Muslims.</p>
<p>In Europe, I would advocate all refugees signing documents renouncing particular Muslim intolerances, and be deported if their behavior changes.</p>
<p>The Islamic invasion is now more clearly occuring &#8212; is it too late to save the West?  (Christian values, Market Capitalism in creating economic wealth)</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 05:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see this thread has gone well beyond neo&#039;s and fiorina&#039;s rather narrow, imo, focus. I may be partially guilty of shifting the focus to a broader discussion about islam in general, however others have joined this broader discussion which I think is appropriate. The dangerous issue that too many dance around is not individual muslims each of us may know om a causual basis.

The issue, as others have noted, is that islam encourages believers to lie in order to inflitrate the societies of the infidels and supplant the host society&#039;s most basic values as the opportunity arises. Given that all of Western Civilization has Quislings in offices high and low; is it any wonder that peasants like me have an eternal and deep seated distrust of moslems from Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, and the rest of the islamic world being welcomed into our communities? 

&#039;&#039; I heard it was you talking about a world where all was free, it just couldn&#039;t be, and only a fool would say that.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this thread has gone well beyond neo&#8217;s and fiorina&#8217;s rather narrow, imo, focus. I may be partially guilty of shifting the focus to a broader discussion about islam in general, however others have joined this broader discussion which I think is appropriate. The dangerous issue that too many dance around is not individual muslims each of us may know om a causual basis.</p>
<p>The issue, as others have noted, is that islam encourages believers to lie in order to inflitrate the societies of the infidels and supplant the host society&#8217;s most basic values as the opportunity arises. Given that all of Western Civilization has Quislings in offices high and low; is it any wonder that peasants like me have an eternal and deep seated distrust of moslems from Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, and the rest of the islamic world being welcomed into our communities? </p>
<p>&#8221; I heard it was you talking about a world where all was free, it just couldn&#8217;t be, and only a fool would say that.&#8221;</p>
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		By: G6loq		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G6loq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 02:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/09/23/national-review-editor-rich-lowry-discussing-trump-fiorina-carly-cut-his-balls-off-with-the-precision-of-a-surgeon/#more-106460&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Debate: Fiorina cut off Trump&#039;s balls with surgical precision.&lt;/a&gt;
That&#039;s quoting Rich Lowry. Bonus: hear La Kelly giggle in background....

Can&#039;t make that up ....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/09/23/national-review-editor-rich-lowry-discussing-trump-fiorina-carly-cut-his-balls-off-with-the-precision-of-a-surgeon/#more-106460" title="" rel="nofollow"> Debate: Fiorina cut off Trump&#8217;s balls with surgical precision.</a><br />
That&#8217;s quoting Rich Lowry. Bonus: hear La Kelly giggle in background&#8230;.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t make that up &#8230;.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/09/22/hey-ive-got-an-idea-how-about-telling-the-truth/#comment-923817</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 01:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Or in other words, Dennis, you&#039;re saying you did not take part in the public or private battles over Iraq, you were just in your own world doing research. Do I have that about right.

But how then do you get to declare to yourself all these judgments you&#039;ve made about Iraq and the conflict over there if you were busy studying an ancient book written by a pedophile and conqueror? Was counter insurgency and AQ tactics explained well in the Koran? Were you able to win or accurately predict the outcomes of modern battles using the Koran?

The basis of your judgment, Dennis, assuming it doesn&#039;t come from outside the bubble called the MSewerMedia propaganda network, is what Roosevelt was talking about.

&lt;b&gt;It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. &lt;/b&gt;

So Dennis, what were you actually doing back then between 2001 and 2008, the End of the American Golden Age?


&lt;b&gt;In my opinion George Bush made a great deal of noise, spent a great deal of money, lost the lives of many American service men and women, and accomplished very little good in his so called “war on terror.”&lt;/b&gt;

So what were you doing, Dennis while Bush was losing a war, in your mental perspective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or in other words, Dennis, you&#8217;re saying you did not take part in the public or private battles over Iraq, you were just in your own world doing research. Do I have that about right.</p>
<p>But how then do you get to declare to yourself all these judgments you&#8217;ve made about Iraq and the conflict over there if you were busy studying an ancient book written by a pedophile and conqueror? Was counter insurgency and AQ tactics explained well in the Koran? Were you able to win or accurately predict the outcomes of modern battles using the Koran?</p>
<p>The basis of your judgment, Dennis, assuming it doesn&#8217;t come from outside the bubble called the MSewerMedia propaganda network, is what Roosevelt was talking about.</p>
<p><b>It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. </b></p>
<p>So Dennis, what were you actually doing back then between 2001 and 2008, the End of the American Golden Age?</p>
<p><b>In my opinion George Bush made a great deal of noise, spent a great deal of money, lost the lives of many American service men and women, and accomplished very little good in his so called “war on terror.”</b></p>
<p>So what were you doing, Dennis while Bush was losing a war, in your mental perspective.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 01:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;After 9-11 I was doing exactly what Bush should have done. I bought a copy of the Koran and learned what is in it, I engaged in intense discussions with a Muslim to find out how they perform exegesis on the Koran and what they believe, and I tried to place myself into the Muslims’ world view so I could understand the world as a Muslim understands it. Then I turned my attention to the history of Islam and tried to understand their history from their perspective and also from the perspective of their victims and dhimmis.&lt;/b&gt;

Bush II the executive of war policies and invasions, should have been reading the Koran. What exactly has more effect on the world, reading and thinking, or doing something first without the full picture?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>After 9-11 I was doing exactly what Bush should have done. I bought a copy of the Koran and learned what is in it, I engaged in intense discussions with a Muslim to find out how they perform exegesis on the Koran and what they believe, and I tried to place myself into the Muslims’ world view so I could understand the world as a Muslim understands it. Then I turned my attention to the history of Islam and tried to understand their history from their perspective and also from the perspective of their victims and dhimmis.</b></p>
<p>Bush II the executive of war policies and invasions, should have been reading the Koran. What exactly has more effect on the world, reading and thinking, or doing something first without the full picture?</p>
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		By: junior		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[junior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 00:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Westboro folks may not be Baptists, but they are Christians. Obviously, not very good ones, but they believe in the divinity of Christ and base their beliefs on the Bible.
----------------

Ann -

Maybe.

The Westboro people are former Democratic fundraisers.  It&#039;s entirely possible that the &quot;church&quot; only exists as a way to induce bigots to send money to the people who run it.  After all, as former fundraisers the Westboro people would have a basic understanding of how to generate publicity for an organization, and use it to induce people to send them money.

At the very least, the kids (or grandkids - can&#039;t remember) of the Westboro members who have left the congregation have had very negative things to say about the people running it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Westboro folks may not be Baptists, but they are Christians. Obviously, not very good ones, but they believe in the divinity of Christ and base their beliefs on the Bible.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Ann &#8211;</p>
<p>Maybe.</p>
<p>The Westboro people are former Democratic fundraisers.  It&#8217;s entirely possible that the &#8220;church&#8221; only exists as a way to induce bigots to send money to the people who run it.  After all, as former fundraisers the Westboro people would have a basic understanding of how to generate publicity for an organization, and use it to induce people to send them money.</p>
<p>At the very least, the kids (or grandkids &#8211; can&#8217;t remember) of the Westboro members who have left the congregation have had very negative things to say about the people running it.</p>
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		By: G6loq		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G6loq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[B-t-w, what is wrong with all these womyn all dewy eyed about &#039;moderate moooslimes&#039; and the this and the that?  What is that all about?

&lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/PC_GoneWild/status/646078074925285376&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What is this all about?&lt;/a&gt;

Standards and boundaries ladies!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B-t-w, what is wrong with all these womyn all dewy eyed about &#8216;moderate moooslimes&#8217; and the this and the that?  What is that all about?</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/PC_GoneWild/status/646078074925285376" title="" rel="nofollow">What is this all about?</a></p>
<p>Standards and boundaries ladies!</p>
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		By: G6loq		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G6loq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[imam Sheikh Muhammad Ayed gave a speech in 2015 to Palestinian Muslims.[2] He said that Europe was facing a demographic disaster with low birth rates, and urged Muslims to have children with Europeans so they could “trample them underfoot, Allah willing.” Since Muslim women according to traditional Islamic law are forbidden from marrying or having children with non-Muslim men, he was essentially calling on Muslim men to conquer Europe through its women. Muhammad Ayed further stated that “We will give them fertility. We will breed children with them, &lt;a href=&quot;http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/09/migration-as-conquest/&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;because we shall conquer their countries.”&lt;/a&gt;

Carson is right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imam Sheikh Muhammad Ayed gave a speech in 2015 to Palestinian Muslims.[2] He said that Europe was facing a demographic disaster with low birth rates, and urged Muslims to have children with Europeans so they could “trample them underfoot, Allah willing.” Since Muslim women according to traditional Islamic law are forbidden from marrying or having children with non-Muslim men, he was essentially calling on Muslim men to conquer Europe through its women. Muhammad Ayed further stated that “We will give them fertility. We will breed children with them, <a href="http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/09/migration-as-conquest/" title="" rel="nofollow">because we shall conquer their countries.”</a></p>
<p>Carson is right.</p>
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