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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;The “LIV” is a conformist.&lt;/b&gt;

Basically like a Nazi stormtrooper and SS enforcer. If his leader is good and merciful, then the stormtrooper is good and merciful. If the leader is Hitler... well.

The tools obey their user and it is the user that determines the ethical good or evil of the tools.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The “LIV” is a conformist.</b></p>
<p>Basically like a Nazi stormtrooper and SS enforcer. If his leader is good and merciful, then the stormtrooper is good and merciful. If the leader is Hitler&#8230; well.</p>
<p>The tools obey their user and it is the user that determines the ethical good or evil of the tools.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2015 17:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Therefore, I’m imploring you to give him a chance.&lt;/b&gt;

The time for that is over, but that&#039;s not the fault of Trump. Civil War II approaches very closely to my originally predicted time table after 2012&#039;s election split.

Nothing a politician can do can stop the avalanche, not even Trump as President.

We are past the point of No Return. There will be no more chances... for anyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Therefore, I’m imploring you to give him a chance.</b></p>
<p>The time for that is over, but that&#8217;s not the fault of Trump. Civil War II approaches very closely to my originally predicted time table after 2012&#8217;s election split.</p>
<p>Nothing a politician can do can stop the avalanche, not even Trump as President.</p>
<p>We are past the point of No Return. There will be no more chances&#8230; for anyone.</p>
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		By: Orson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2015 04:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump is narcissist, of course. But given their typical focused drive and magnetic appeal, such flawed people have their pro-social uses. What are Trump’s?

This needs elaboration, because I’m reading objections and dismissals here that I’ve muttered much myself. 

For example, isn’t almost EVERY Democratic party leader a narcissist? And all the more transparently repellant because of it? - overweening ‘self-love’ wrapped up with power lust? A veritable prescription for pathological altruism! And thereby a mere “tool” worthy of derision. Into the trash bin with ya, Trump-mania!

It’s true that, as Neo points out,  Carson is almost the anti-Trump in terms of personality, and for many their respective appeal flows from that. But “personality” is not the same as character, as she and other’s commenting here are too easy to claim. This is a misleading conflation.

I myself was raised by two NPD parents, and driven in my youth to wrestle with Borderline disturbance for many years. (Thank you Dr Malka Goodman, wherever you are, because you saved my life.) So, I’m very sensitive to narcissists, and usually aversive to their appeal.

My “lightbulb” acceptance about Trump came through seeing him in 30+minute talks in Iowa, and elsewhere. ) (Just Google him up at Youtube; make sure you find the longer presentations.) 

Trump talks in spiral soliloquies, unfurling a salad bowl of intersecting, reinforcing themes that are striking and stirring. 

I think his style of presentation appeals to uniquely to woman. He’s managed to captivate a series of beauties as wives, without alienating them: I think this speaks well to Trump’s character. While very thin-skinned and unfiltered, he’s also loyal to those who adore him.

Calling him “immature” is to shortchange what he is, what he does and how he does it. “Immature” is too superficial to be fair - even though he does embody overreaction and brandishes boyish “bad boy” charm.

Therefore, I’m imploring you to give him a chance. Once one empathizes with him, one finds that there’s more “there” there than at least I’d thought (eg, throughout his celebrity TV show years).

Sure, I’d rather have the deep-thinker substance of Cruz or Fiorina - or the impressive executive heft of the mild-mannered Walker, or the even impressive yet inexperienced doctor Carson. Leadership has mercurial qualities, and manifests in many forms.

But for now, Trump leads. He has a fortune as proof of self-made success; and his association with intellectuals like Ann Coulter, Mark Levin and Cruz is proof enough for me of his conservatism. If the common people are ready to see him as their leader, I’m willing to see him go there.

One final provocation: is Trump the American answer to Italian media baron turned Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi? I’ve seen the comparison mentioned. But I’ve not run across a useful public comparison and leadership contrast yet. I’m interested to consider it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump is narcissist, of course. But given their typical focused drive and magnetic appeal, such flawed people have their pro-social uses. What are Trump’s?</p>
<p>This needs elaboration, because I’m reading objections and dismissals here that I’ve muttered much myself. </p>
<p>For example, isn’t almost EVERY Democratic party leader a narcissist? And all the more transparently repellant because of it? &#8211; overweening ‘self-love’ wrapped up with power lust? A veritable prescription for pathological altruism! And thereby a mere “tool” worthy of derision. Into the trash bin with ya, Trump-mania!</p>
<p>It’s true that, as Neo points out,  Carson is almost the anti-Trump in terms of personality, and for many their respective appeal flows from that. But “personality” is not the same as character, as she and other’s commenting here are too easy to claim. This is a misleading conflation.</p>
<p>I myself was raised by two NPD parents, and driven in my youth to wrestle with Borderline disturbance for many years. (Thank you Dr Malka Goodman, wherever you are, because you saved my life.) So, I’m very sensitive to narcissists, and usually aversive to their appeal.</p>
<p>My “lightbulb” acceptance about Trump came through seeing him in 30+minute talks in Iowa, and elsewhere. ) (Just Google him up at Youtube; make sure you find the longer presentations.) </p>
<p>Trump talks in spiral soliloquies, unfurling a salad bowl of intersecting, reinforcing themes that are striking and stirring. </p>
<p>I think his style of presentation appeals to uniquely to woman. He’s managed to captivate a series of beauties as wives, without alienating them: I think this speaks well to Trump’s character. While very thin-skinned and unfiltered, he’s also loyal to those who adore him.</p>
<p>Calling him “immature” is to shortchange what he is, what he does and how he does it. “Immature” is too superficial to be fair &#8211; even though he does embody overreaction and brandishes boyish “bad boy” charm.</p>
<p>Therefore, I’m imploring you to give him a chance. Once one empathizes with him, one finds that there’s more “there” there than at least I’d thought (eg, throughout his celebrity TV show years).</p>
<p>Sure, I’d rather have the deep-thinker substance of Cruz or Fiorina &#8211; or the impressive executive heft of the mild-mannered Walker, or the even impressive yet inexperienced doctor Carson. Leadership has mercurial qualities, and manifests in many forms.</p>
<p>But for now, Trump leads. He has a fortune as proof of self-made success; and his association with intellectuals like Ann Coulter, Mark Levin and Cruz is proof enough for me of his conservatism. If the common people are ready to see him as their leader, I’m willing to see him go there.</p>
<p>One final provocation: is Trump the American answer to Italian media baron turned Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi? I’ve seen the comparison mentioned. But I’ve not run across a useful public comparison and leadership contrast yet. I’m interested to consider it.</p>
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		By: Jim Kearney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 16:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kyndall G said it best.  &quot;You’ll never build a house if the only tool you have is a sledgehammer.&quot; 

But that sledgehammer sure as hell made the walls of the inner sanctums of the Press and RINO HQ into rubble.  

Now, if Ted Cruz, Ben, and Carly can rise above the din and fury, we may have some wise souls to choose from.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyndall G said it best.  &#8220;You’ll never build a house if the only tool you have is a sledgehammer.&#8221; </p>
<p>But that sledgehammer sure as hell made the walls of the inner sanctums of the Press and RINO HQ into rubble.  </p>
<p>Now, if Ted Cruz, Ben, and Carly can rise above the din and fury, we may have some wise souls to choose from.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[blert-  You could be right about Carson being too quiet for the bully pulpit.  Right now my favorites are Cruz and Fiorina, but I’d crawl over broken glass to vote for any of the others over the dem nominee-  except for Trump.  I see him as a shallow narcissistic blowhard, a self absorbed bully with no loyalty to anyone but himself, and I could never vote for him.  As president I don’t trust that he would do any of the things he now says he would do, including immigration. If it comes down to a choice between Biden and Trump in November of 2016, God help us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert-  You could be right about Carson being too quiet for the bully pulpit.  Right now my favorites are Cruz and Fiorina, but I’d crawl over broken glass to vote for any of the others over the dem nominee-  except for Trump.  I see him as a shallow narcissistic blowhard, a self absorbed bully with no loyalty to anyone but himself, and I could never vote for him.  As president I don’t trust that he would do any of the things he now says he would do, including immigration. If it comes down to a choice between Biden and Trump in November of 2016, God help us.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 08:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[George Pal,

It&#039;s a social, not individual phenomenon. The &quot;LIV&quot; is a conformist. To marshal the &quot;LIV&quot; to your agenda, set the zeitgeist to your agenda. The &quot;LIV&quot; will conform to it. Engineering the zeitgeist is an activist function.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Pal,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a social, not individual phenomenon. The &#8220;LIV&#8221; is a conformist. To marshal the &#8220;LIV&#8221; to your agenda, set the zeitgeist to your agenda. The &#8220;LIV&#8221; will conform to it. Engineering the zeitgeist is an activist function.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 07:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tonawanda: &quot;So maybe this is a debate on whether we adopt Alinsky tactics[, or lock and load in open defiance,] &lt;b&gt;or&lt;/b&gt; hope for a leader of unquestionable stability, intellect and character.&quot; 

Setting aside &quot;lock and load in open defiance&quot;, the formulation of your statement should be &#039;and&#039; instead of &#039;or&#039;. 

As I&#039;ve said, Trump is merely exploiting a market inefficiency from the absence of Right activism that&#039;s needed to counter the currently unopposed Left activism. 

&quot;Alinsky tactics&quot; are just one set of tools in the activist workshop.

The needed solution is the people of the Right collectively adopting/adapting Marxist-method activism and zealously competing head-on everywhere with Left activists. 

It&#039;s not a preference choice. The activist game is the only social cultural/political game there is.  It&#039;s a zero sum, win or lose, do or do-not choice. The habitual self-limitation to the usual electoral politics that&#039;s being exploited by Trump is not an alternative to the activist game because there is no alternative to the activist game. Self-limiting to electoral politics is merely self-defeating in the activist game. 

Trump&#039;s campaign exploits the wrong premise that the Right and the GOP are the same. The basic step for taking up the needed solution is eliminating the destructive assumption that the GOP is leader and container for the Right. 

What&#039;s needed to fix the nation needs to be done by the people of the Right coming together as Marxist-method activists &lt;i&gt;apart&lt;/i&gt; from the GOP.

Due to their conflation of the GOP and the Right with primacy for the GOP, Trump supporters think battering the GOP will fix things for the Right. It won&#039;t, because the shortcomings of the &quot;establishment&quot; GOP are symptom, not cause. Activism is greater than and subsumes electoral politics. The needed solution is Right activism that is greater than and subsumes the GOP, not battering the GOP.
 
Winning the activist game empowers you to do better than &quot;hope&quot; for a &quot;leader of unquestionable stability, intellect and character&quot;. 

Activism empowers you to truly select elected leaders, filter out undesirable candidates, set the agenda, set the stage with social conditions you control, equip them, and hold them accountable to do the right thing within their lane - as you determine the right thing to be.

By separating the GOP and the Right and assigning primacy to the Right via collective Marxist-method activism, you can achieve &#039;and&#039; instead of &#039;or&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonawanda: &#8220;So maybe this is a debate on whether we adopt Alinsky tactics[, or lock and load in open defiance,] <b>or</b> hope for a leader of unquestionable stability, intellect and character.&#8221; </p>
<p>Setting aside &#8220;lock and load in open defiance&#8221;, the formulation of your statement should be &#8216;and&#8217; instead of &#8216;or&#8217;. </p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said, Trump is merely exploiting a market inefficiency from the absence of Right activism that&#8217;s needed to counter the currently unopposed Left activism. </p>
<p>&#8220;Alinsky tactics&#8221; are just one set of tools in the activist workshop.</p>
<p>The needed solution is the people of the Right collectively adopting/adapting Marxist-method activism and zealously competing head-on everywhere with Left activists. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a preference choice. The activist game is the only social cultural/political game there is.  It&#8217;s a zero sum, win or lose, do or do-not choice. The habitual self-limitation to the usual electoral politics that&#8217;s being exploited by Trump is not an alternative to the activist game because there is no alternative to the activist game. Self-limiting to electoral politics is merely self-defeating in the activist game. </p>
<p>Trump&#8217;s campaign exploits the wrong premise that the Right and the GOP are the same. The basic step for taking up the needed solution is eliminating the destructive assumption that the GOP is leader and container for the Right. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s needed to fix the nation needs to be done by the people of the Right coming together as Marxist-method activists <i>apart</i> from the GOP.</p>
<p>Due to their conflation of the GOP and the Right with primacy for the GOP, Trump supporters think battering the GOP will fix things for the Right. It won&#8217;t, because the shortcomings of the &#8220;establishment&#8221; GOP are symptom, not cause. Activism is greater than and subsumes electoral politics. The needed solution is Right activism that is greater than and subsumes the GOP, not battering the GOP.</p>
<p>Winning the activist game empowers you to do better than &#8220;hope&#8221; for a &#8220;leader of unquestionable stability, intellect and character&#8221;. </p>
<p>Activism empowers you to truly select elected leaders, filter out undesirable candidates, set the agenda, set the stage with social conditions you control, equip them, and hold them accountable to do the right thing within their lane &#8211; as you determine the right thing to be.</p>
<p>By separating the GOP and the Right and assigning primacy to the Right via collective Marxist-method activism, you can achieve &#8216;and&#8217; instead of &#8216;or&#8217;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 07:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump is deadly serious about winning the presidency. He is using Alinsky tactics to do so. Alinsky says  - pick your target, personalise them, and then demonize them. Trump picked a target no politician was willing to touch, illegal immigration. Then he personalized it by focussing on recent victims of illegal immigration, and then he demonized those who support illegal immigration. Classic Alinsky, but in a good cause. 

Megyn Kelly aired a hit piece on Trump in July that accused him of raping his first wife. His first wife called BS and the story died. Come the first debate, and a giggling Kelly tries again, with a question about Trump being insulting to women. He wins that exchange, and adds insult to injury by calling her a &quot;bimbo&quot;. Is Kelly or any other Fox News airhead (O&#039;Reilly, Van Susteren, Kelly) going to try that line of attack again?

Look what he has done to Jeb Bush, the anointed one, with his $143,000.000 war chest and a RNC primary schedule designed to deliver Jeb the nomination. Target: Jeb. Personalise: Another DC insider, like his brother. Demonize: Low energy. Where is Jeb in the polls? Sinking like a stone.

More insights here:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/10/fiorinas-face-trump-fights-like-a-leftist-and-wins/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump is deadly serious about winning the presidency. He is using Alinsky tactics to do so. Alinsky says  &#8211; pick your target, personalise them, and then demonize them. Trump picked a target no politician was willing to touch, illegal immigration. Then he personalized it by focussing on recent victims of illegal immigration, and then he demonized those who support illegal immigration. Classic Alinsky, but in a good cause. </p>
<p>Megyn Kelly aired a hit piece on Trump in July that accused him of raping his first wife. His first wife called BS and the story died. Come the first debate, and a giggling Kelly tries again, with a question about Trump being insulting to women. He wins that exchange, and adds insult to injury by calling her a &#8220;bimbo&#8221;. Is Kelly or any other Fox News airhead (O&#8217;Reilly, Van Susteren, Kelly) going to try that line of attack again?</p>
<p>Look what he has done to Jeb Bush, the anointed one, with his $143,000.000 war chest and a RNC primary schedule designed to deliver Jeb the nomination. Target: Jeb. Personalise: Another DC insider, like his brother. Demonize: Low energy. Where is Jeb in the polls? Sinking like a stone.</p>
<p>More insights here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/10/fiorinas-face-trump-fights-like-a-leftist-and-wins/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/10/fiorinas-face-trump-fights-like-a-leftist-and-wins/</a></p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 05:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris...

Carson would be a ZERO in the bully pulpit.

Simply too soft spoken.

Cruz or Fiorina or Trump all know and love the microphone.

Rubio is probably running for Vice President... as are many others.

I&#039;d say that Cruz and Trump already realize that they are sympatico, as both want to shift big gears in Washington.

As Clinton and 0bama showed us, the blow hard with terrible morals fits in perfectly in Washington. Birds of a feather, and all.

BTW, Trump has been immersed in politics his whole life. Just what do you think a property developer in New York City does? Yes, it&#039;s politics from front to back, top to bottom.

As gaffy as Donald is -- look at Joe.

It&#039;s going to be a Biden// Warren ticket.

The only issue is whether it&#039;s going to be Cruz// Trump ...

or Trump// Cruz -- until such time as Donald self-destructs.

That &quot;nice guy&quot; bit against Carson is lethal. No-one wants their president to be all that nice.

They want some fist underneath all that velvet glove.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris&#8230;</p>
<p>Carson would be a ZERO in the bully pulpit.</p>
<p>Simply too soft spoken.</p>
<p>Cruz or Fiorina or Trump all know and love the microphone.</p>
<p>Rubio is probably running for Vice President&#8230; as are many others.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that Cruz and Trump already realize that they are sympatico, as both want to shift big gears in Washington.</p>
<p>As Clinton and 0bama showed us, the blow hard with terrible morals fits in perfectly in Washington. Birds of a feather, and all.</p>
<p>BTW, Trump has been immersed in politics his whole life. Just what do you think a property developer in New York City does? Yes, it&#8217;s politics from front to back, top to bottom.</p>
<p>As gaffy as Donald is &#8212; look at Joe.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be a Biden// Warren ticket.</p>
<p>The only issue is whether it&#8217;s going to be Cruz// Trump &#8230;</p>
<p>or Trump// Cruz &#8212; until such time as Donald self-destructs.</p>
<p>That &#8220;nice guy&#8221; bit against Carson is lethal. No-one wants their president to be all that nice.</p>
<p>They want some fist underneath all that velvet glove.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 01:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo-  like you, I have been paying more attention to Ben Carson lately.  Many people have an enormous amount of respect for him, but due to his quiet demeanor think him too “nice” to be a good President.  I have a different opinion

I currently work in the medical field and also have a military background, which gives me another perspective.  There is probably no profession on earth which requires a combination of intelligence and nerves of steel more than being a pediatric brain surgeon.  In the military I’ve had narcissistic self-promoting blowhards like Trump for commanders and others who are relatively quiet but display intelligence, character, and resolve, and there is no question which had the respect of his troops and who was more effective during difficult times.  I see a quiet strength of character in Ben Carson which would make him a good President in the difficult times I believe our country will face.  Anyway, this is just my opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo-  like you, I have been paying more attention to Ben Carson lately.  Many people have an enormous amount of respect for him, but due to his quiet demeanor think him too “nice” to be a good President.  I have a different opinion</p>
<p>I currently work in the medical field and also have a military background, which gives me another perspective.  There is probably no profession on earth which requires a combination of intelligence and nerves of steel more than being a pediatric brain surgeon.  In the military I’ve had narcissistic self-promoting blowhards like Trump for commanders and others who are relatively quiet but display intelligence, character, and resolve, and there is no question which had the respect of his troops and who was more effective during difficult times.  I see a quiet strength of character in Ben Carson which would make him a good President in the difficult times I believe our country will face.  Anyway, this is just my opinion.</p>
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