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		By: Bilwick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/22/trying-to-talk-oneself-into-an-open-marriage/#comment-916311</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bilwick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Unfortunately for you Bilwick Boyo, you aren’t an aristocrat, but merely the zombie dogs of the elite rulers.&quot;

And you base this on what, Captain Logic?

And no, I am not an aristocrat in the sense of having been born in Downton Abbey or the equivalent; but I like to think I am part of Jefferson&#039;s natural aristocracy, the key ingredient of which Leonard Read described as &quot;a love of excellence for its own sake.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unfortunately for you Bilwick Boyo, you aren’t an aristocrat, but merely the zombie dogs of the elite rulers.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you base this on what, Captain Logic?</p>
<p>And no, I am not an aristocrat in the sense of having been born in Downton Abbey or the equivalent; but I like to think I am part of Jefferson&#8217;s natural aristocracy, the key ingredient of which Leonard Read described as &#8220;a love of excellence for its own sake.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/22/trying-to-talk-oneself-into-an-open-marriage/#comment-916250</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Open marriage&quot; was what Henry 8th could use to justify getting a male heir. Aristocrats and those in power could always justify it one way or another. Unfortunately for you, Bilwick boyo, you aren&#039;t an aristocrat, but merely the zombie dogs of the elite rulers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Open marriage&#8221; was what Henry 8th could use to justify getting a male heir. Aristocrats and those in power could always justify it one way or another. Unfortunately for you, Bilwick boyo, you aren&#8217;t an aristocrat, but merely the zombie dogs of the elite rulers.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/22/trying-to-talk-oneself-into-an-open-marriage/#comment-916249</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Yes, and those are exactly the moral equivalents of open marriage! Brilliant.&lt;/b&gt;

Hedonism must be a word you just were ordered to Stand Down and ignore then, zombie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Yes, and those are exactly the moral equivalents of open marriage! Brilliant.</b></p>
<p>Hedonism must be a word you just were ordered to Stand Down and ignore then, zombie.</p>
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		By: Bilwick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/22/trying-to-talk-oneself-into-an-open-marriage/#comment-916080</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bilwick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Nothing modern about this, the medievals and Romans had rape, sex slavery . . . &quot; Yes, and those are exactly the moral equivalents of open marriage! Brilliant.

In my experience, most people, even fairly sophisticated, open-minded people, cannot handle open marriage; but a few do. To each his own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nothing modern about this, the medievals and Romans had rape, sex slavery . . . &#8221; Yes, and those are exactly the moral equivalents of open marriage! Brilliant.</p>
<p>In my experience, most people, even fairly sophisticated, open-minded people, cannot handle open marriage; but a few do. To each his own.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/22/trying-to-talk-oneself-into-an-open-marriage/#comment-916014</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nothing modern about this, the medievals and Romans had rape, sex slavery, and hedonism as well. They just had social systems surrounding it, that either hid it or encouraged it.

The only thing modern I can see is that people don&#039;t see a need to hide it now nor do they even understand what kind of power structure it creates, this hedonism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing modern about this, the medievals and Romans had rape, sex slavery, and hedonism as well. They just had social systems surrounding it, that either hid it or encouraged it.</p>
<p>The only thing modern I can see is that people don&#8217;t see a need to hide it now nor do they even understand what kind of power structure it creates, this hedonism.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/22/trying-to-talk-oneself-into-an-open-marriage/#comment-916013</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A man that doesn&#039;t even command the loyalty, obedience, or respect of his children or partner, isn&#039;t worth much.

Just another breeding factory for Planned Profit&#039;s profit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man that doesn&#8217;t even command the loyalty, obedience, or respect of his children or partner, isn&#8217;t worth much.</p>
<p>Just another breeding factory for Planned Profit&#8217;s profit.</p>
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		By: Elliott		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/22/trying-to-talk-oneself-into-an-open-marriage/#comment-915997</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elliott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This guy is being emotionally abused. And so are his children. Get the hell out and don&#039;t look back. This narcissistic woman loves nothing and no one but herself. She will hand over the kids with the least resistance from him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is being emotionally abused. And so are his children. Get the hell out and don&#8217;t look back. This narcissistic woman loves nothing and no one but herself. She will hand over the kids with the least resistance from him.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/22/trying-to-talk-oneself-into-an-open-marriage/#comment-915995</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, why does he &quot;love&quot; his &quot;wife&quot;?

Poor sap. I wonder how long he makes her wait after returning before she can kiss him.

By the way, although I called him a &quot;poor&quot; sap, no sense of pity or compassion should be read into that remark whatsoever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, why does he &#8220;love&#8221; his &#8220;wife&#8221;?</p>
<p>Poor sap. I wonder how long he makes her wait after returning before she can kiss him.</p>
<p>By the way, although I called him a &#8220;poor&#8221; sap, no sense of pity or compassion should be read into that remark whatsoever.</p>
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		By: I Callahan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/22/trying-to-talk-oneself-into-an-open-marriage/#comment-915905</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Callahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 02:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As some wag on another page said, and it bears repeating here:

&quot;Caitlyn Jenner called.  She said to grow some balls.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some wag on another page said, and it bears repeating here:</p>
<p>&#8220;Caitlyn Jenner called.  She said to grow some balls.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Anna		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/22/trying-to-talk-oneself-into-an-open-marriage/#comment-915891</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where do journalists find these degenerates? Look at this:

&quot;The point is that it should be women who choose, not men – even the men they’re married to. For my wife, the choice between honoring our vows and fulfilling her desires was a false choice, another trap.&quot;

I thought that you *already chose* the moment you got married, and that it was perfectly reasonable for your spouse to be able to count with you not changing your mind on a whim. Especially once children have entered the picture. What else is the purpose of those vows?

I cannot make up my mind whether it would be better for them to use whatever modicum of honesty they have left to divorce and go their separate ways, or they should stay in this... situation, not to disrupt their children&#039;s tranquility. Although with these two I imagine that children have already picked up all sorts of cues that their parents are not quite normal: mother regressing to moral toddlerhood, father incapable of insisting on boundaries and actually agreeing that she should do that, both of them rationalizing this away as some sort of &quot;progressive&quot; wonder. Sounds like a great environment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do journalists find these degenerates? Look at this:</p>
<p>&#8220;The point is that it should be women who choose, not men – even the men they’re married to. For my wife, the choice between honoring our vows and fulfilling her desires was a false choice, another trap.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought that you *already chose* the moment you got married, and that it was perfectly reasonable for your spouse to be able to count with you not changing your mind on a whim. Especially once children have entered the picture. What else is the purpose of those vows?</p>
<p>I cannot make up my mind whether it would be better for them to use whatever modicum of honesty they have left to divorce and go their separate ways, or they should stay in this&#8230; situation, not to disrupt their children&#8217;s tranquility. Although with these two I imagine that children have already picked up all sorts of cues that their parents are not quite normal: mother regressing to moral toddlerhood, father incapable of insisting on boundaries and actually agreeing that she should do that, both of them rationalizing this away as some sort of &#8220;progressive&#8221; wonder. Sounds like a great environment.</p>
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