Comments on: On the technicalities of the Iran deal and the bigger picture https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/21/on-the-technicalities-of-the-iran-deal-and-the-bigger-picture/ A blog about political change, among other things Sat, 22 Aug 2015 18:16:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: Eric https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/21/on-the-technicalities-of-the-iran-deal-and-the-bigger-picture/#comment-915608 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 18:16:14 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=51848#comment-915608 Frog: “The Josh Marshalls of the world use the gee whiz physics is tough to intimidate the low info folks. That would be the college graduates who majored in “Studies” or entertainment like anthro and sociology. The non-quants, in their tens of millions.”

No. Not to intimidate. To rationalize.

The “low information voter” label misleads for counter-Left understanding and efforts because the obstacle is not low information.

The obstacle is plentiful false information designed to spread a politically correct narrative that is rationalized as operative truth (whether it’s actually true is besides the point) by those who wish to quasi-religiously conform to the tribally approved zeitgeist.

The general will of We The People is a function of activism.

Non-STEM majors generally have enough elementary background in math and sciences through basic schooling and gen-ed requirements. And the science of nuclear weapons is not too complicated. (I say this as a poli-sci BA who took a course on WMD taught by a nuclear physicist for poli sci majors that had no prerequisite but still assumed a basic level of math, chemistry, and physics.)

]]> By: Dirtyjobsguy https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/21/on-the-technicalities-of-the-iran-deal-and-the-bigger-picture/#comment-915565 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 10:46:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=51848#comment-915565 The South African nuclear program was Iran in minature but with a genuine demilitarization. The Wikipedia description is not bad. I can vouch for a lot of it as I met some principals. They had several functional weapons which is what I’m sure Iran has now. They need the sanctions lifted for a few years for economic reasons and to build a more robust delivery and air defense system. The U.S. Should not only tighten the sanctions but rapidly build our own middle and air defenses

]]> By: blert https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/21/on-the-technicalities-of-the-iran-deal-and-the-bigger-picture/#comment-915544 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 05:56:04 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=51848#comment-915544 Parchin = Los Alamos is the equation that must be memorized.

All the gibber jabber about hydro-dynamics is to side slip around the obvious fact that this facility was solely tasked with BOMB design.

Said design work is entirely oriented around getting the plutonium to implode — perfectly.

The best bombs require optical precision.

They look like Swiss watches// astronomical lenses.

That includes the nuclear explosive and the chemical explosive.

Getting it perfect is a HUGE chore. Theory will only take you so far. Then it’s test, test, test, test, test, test,…

Using non-exploding target metals.

This means that radiation garb, and all the rest, are MISSING from such sites. You can wander around with detectors to your hearts content and get no readings.

What Iran does not want discovered is the blast fragments that are residual to the implosion tests. These were driven into the nearby structures and soils.

Ultra high pressures CHANGE the micro-crystalline nature of metals and rocks. Iran does not want the IAEA discovering such stressed // shocked fragments. They would evidence that Iran has discovered ALL of the process steps that compress plutonium to densities that trigger nuclear detonation.

The fragments that would give the game away could be as small as a microscopic slide’s sample. Hence, Iran can’t ever be sure to cleanse Parchin.

So NOW you know why Parchin is perpetually ‘off limits’ as far al the Iranian team is concerned.

%%%

Stealthy conversion of enriched uranium to plutonium — weapons grade — is a peace of cake.

Iran could do so — the old fashioned way — that America used in the Manhattan project: swimming pool reactors.

These can be slipped under any substantial building — and no outsider would ever be the wiser.

]]> By: Frog https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/21/on-the-technicalities-of-the-iran-deal-and-the-bigger-picture/#comment-915514 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 03:30:31 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=51848#comment-915514 stan is correct.
There is zero need to understand nuclear physics in evaluating this “deal” and I say this as someone educated in radiation physics.
The Josh Marshalls of the world use the gee whiz physics is tough to intimidate the low info folks. That would be the college graduates who majored in “Studies” or entertainment like anthro and sociology. The non-quants, in their tens of millions.
Obama and Kerry are totally venal; this deal is driven, IMO, by desires for personal enrichment. Baraq Hussein would like to be worth $100 million tomorrow; we owe him that for his greatness. And that sum is less than 0.01% of the monies Hussein is freeing up for Iran. What a deal for the ayatollahs!

]]> By: stan https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/21/on-the-technicalities-of-the-iran-deal-and-the-bigger-picture/#comment-915503 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 02:18:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=51848#comment-915503 All one needs to know in assessing the deal is the following:

1) secret side deals

2) Obama. The president is one of the biggest liars in American history, a man of questionable loyalty to the US, and someone with utter disdain for the Constitution and the American people.

]]> By: Eric https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/21/on-the-technicalities-of-the-iran-deal-and-the-bigger-picture/#comment-915487 Sat, 22 Aug 2015 00:41:59 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=51848#comment-915487 Marshall with the typical ‘your facts are opinions, my assertions are facts.’

]]> By: Eric https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/21/on-the-technicalities-of-the-iran-deal-and-the-bigger-picture/#comment-915478 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 23:49:06 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=51848#comment-915478 Josh Marshall:
“But they’ve had an extremely difficult time making substantive arguments against the deal because according to almost all technical experts it is about as tight and comprehensive and total a surveillance regime as we’ve ever seen. Ever.”

Charles Duelfer:
http://www.charlesduelfer.com/blog/
“Verification is wobbly. Yes the provisions are better than other IAEA systems, but this is nothing compared to the access and techniques used in Iraq.”

Marshall:
“Iran will not have a nuclear weapon under any circumstances for 10 to 20 years.”

Duelfer:
“The verification mechanism will probably achieve the limited goal of slowing the progress of Iran having a nuclear weapon. It cannot categorically inhibit Iran. … This slows Iran’s nuclear program, but when Iran wants a weapon, they can build it.”

Marshall:
“But here’s the problem – that’s only the opinion of people who actually know what they’re talking about”

http://www.charlesduelfer.com/index.php
“Charles Duelfer … was the top CIA officer directing the investigation of Saddam’s regime and its WMD programs.
… As Special Advisor to the Director of Central Intelligence for Iraq WMD, Duelfer led the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) that conducted the investigation of the scope of Iraq’s WMD.
… In the 1990’s Duelfer was at the United Nations serving as the Deputy Executive Chairman and subsequently, acting Chairman, of the UN Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM) from 1993 until its termination in 2000.”

]]> By: Ymarsakar https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/21/on-the-technicalities-of-the-iran-deal-and-the-bigger-picture/#comment-915462 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 22:43:02 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=51848#comment-915462 Nuclear thorium reactors which do not create fissionable materials for orthodox bombs or backpack nuclear power plants, are not old technology though. It’s been either suppressed or has been crowded out due to government funding.

The many nuclear reactors created expressly to create plutonium or other similar bombs, were controlled and funded from the top. Which means that private investment was kicked out to the curb. Government power made sure of that, just like with NASA.

]]> By: Paul in Boston https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/21/on-the-technicalities-of-the-iran-deal-and-the-bigger-picture/#comment-915439 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:51:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=51848#comment-915439 “Let me share with you a deep truth: The nuclear stuff is complicated.” True for Josh Marshall, but by the time I was getting my PhD in High Energy Physics forty years ago nuclear physics was considered a back water for second raters. Face it, a bomb is seventy year old technology and virtually everything is known about how to build one.

There is no new science or engineering involved and the only difficult part is accumulating enough of the right isotopes of either Uranium or Plutonium. It was about half the cost of the entire war effort during WWII. With today’s modern technolgy it is probably the equivalent of a huge automobile factory and much less costly.

]]> By: parker https://thenewneo.com/2015/08/21/on-the-technicalities-of-the-iran-deal-and-the-bigger-picture/#comment-915438 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:51:40 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=51848#comment-915438 Many experts are solely experts in their own mind. I have read everything I could find on the inspection regime. Expertly in my own mind I think of this ‘deal’ as the nuclear jihad protocol. Plus, there must be other bad bargains in this disaster that we still don’t know about as is typical of all things obama.

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