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		By: PatD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PatD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2015 05:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A successful business person, such as Trump or Fiorina, knows how to recruit good people and delegate responsibility. Obama only hires like-minded apparatchiks, listens only to them, and acts accordingly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A successful business person, such as Trump or Fiorina, knows how to recruit good people and delegate responsibility. Obama only hires like-minded apparatchiks, listens only to them, and acts accordingly.</p>
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		By: Jim Kearney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Kearney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 05:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re right, Neo, about his narcissism. But I also think his Nrcissism leads him to think he CAN save this nation....not for the sake of our nation though, but to give him one more narcissistic triumph to brag about.  

Having said that though, I DO think his entering the race is just the hand grenade in the room we needed.  It will be just the reinforcement that Ted Cruz, Walker and Firoina need as well as teaching Conservatives to chop the legs from under the Liberal Press, speak BOLDLY and without fear of hurting somebody&#039;s feelings......like weak tea Mitt, chastising Ted Cruz for telling the TRUTH about Obama.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right, Neo, about his narcissism. But I also think his Nrcissism leads him to think he CAN save this nation&#8230;.not for the sake of our nation though, but to give him one more narcissistic triumph to brag about.  </p>
<p>Having said that though, I DO think his entering the race is just the hand grenade in the room we needed.  It will be just the reinforcement that Ted Cruz, Walker and Firoina need as well as teaching Conservatives to chop the legs from under the Liberal Press, speak BOLDLY and without fear of hurting somebody&#8217;s feelings&#8230;&#8230;like weak tea Mitt, chastising Ted Cruz for telling the TRUTH about Obama.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hong:

Trump &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump#Business_career&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;came from great wealth&lt;/a&gt;, Carly did not, although her family was comfortable.  Fiorina is more &quot;self-made&quot; than Trump (at least at the start), if you care about that sort of thing, because she didn&#039;t have great family wealth and she worked her way up from the bottom.

Trump had his ups and downs financially, coming near bankruptcy in the 80s but a multi-billionaire now.  Fiorina and her husband &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wsj.com/articles/carly-fiorina-and-her-husband-have-59-million-net-worth-1433388117&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;have&lt;/a&gt; a net worth of 59 million dollars. 

In other words, both are mega-wealthy, but Trump is MEGA mega wealthy.

So what?  The advantage this converges on Trump is that in the campaign he can spend his own money and not have to worry about a thing in terms of pleasing his donors.  But Fiorina doesn&#039;t seem to be pulling her punches in the least, either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hong:</p>
<p>Trump <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump#Business_career" rel="nofollow">came from great wealth</a>, Carly did not, although her family was comfortable.  Fiorina is more &#8220;self-made&#8221; than Trump (at least at the start), if you care about that sort of thing, because she didn&#8217;t have great family wealth and she worked her way up from the bottom.</p>
<p>Trump had his ups and downs financially, coming near bankruptcy in the 80s but a multi-billionaire now.  Fiorina and her husband <a href="http://www.wsj.com/articles/carly-fiorina-and-her-husband-have-59-million-net-worth-1433388117" rel="nofollow">have</a> a net worth of 59 million dollars. </p>
<p>In other words, both are mega-wealthy, but Trump is MEGA mega wealthy.</p>
<p>So what?  The advantage this converges on Trump is that in the campaign he can spend his own money and not have to worry about a thing in terms of pleasing his donors.  But Fiorina doesn&#8217;t seem to be pulling her punches in the least, either.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;a self-made billionaire doing what should’ve been done years before&lt;/b&gt;

Are you talking about Trump that inherited his capital being self made now?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>a self-made billionaire doing what should’ve been done years before</b></p>
<p>Are you talking about Trump that inherited his capital being self made now?</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hong:

Carly&#039;s resume after leaving Hewlett-Packard in 2005 includes &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#Other_organizational_involvement&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#The_One_Woman_Initiative_and_Opportunity_International&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#Carly_Fiorina_Enterprises_and_Fiorina_Foundation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#Unlocking_Potential_Project&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.  She also, during this same time, wrote a book (not sure if it was ghostwritten or not, however), had breast cancer and went through chemo in 2009, and ran for the Senate in 2010.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hong:</p>
<p>Carly&#8217;s resume after leaving Hewlett-Packard in 2005 includes <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#Other_organizational_involvement" rel="nofollow">this</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#The_One_Woman_Initiative_and_Opportunity_International" rel="nofollow">this</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#Carly_Fiorina_Enterprises_and_Fiorina_Foundation" rel="nofollow">this</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#Unlocking_Potential_Project" rel="nofollow">this</a>.  She also, during this same time, wrote a book (not sure if it was ghostwritten or not, however), had breast cancer and went through chemo in 2009, and ran for the Senate in 2010.</p>
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		By: Hong		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The country and people in general favor the bolder, alpha approach to politics. While both Fiorina and Trump show a willingness to confront and back up their beliefs, Trump demonstrates the sort of aggressive and tough push-back-with-a-sneer that social con Republicans thirst for. Fiorina has seemingly done nothing since her time at HP. What accomplishments can she present that equal the TV wattage of Trump? I believe there is only one self-made female billionaire in the world (the rest inherited their money from their spouses or fathers); and so Trump is the best there is. 


No one is impressed with a candidate with a lifetime of service in the political bureaucracy or working for someone else&#039;s company. It&#039;s why Obama&#039;s and Kerry&#039;s resumes were so  unimpressive and why the critics were vindicated in critiquing their qualifications.


The mealy mouthed McConnells and tear-eyed Boehners are reflected in Jeb Bush with his troll wife 


Santorum and Cruz are equally confrontational but they appear as creatures of the toxic machine, not self made men.


The dual defeats of Obamacare to an apparently flipflopping Republican Chief Justice; and the collapse of any resistance to the Gay lobby is breeding a new term for these people as sell outs - or &#039;Cuckservatives&#039;. An anti-Cuckservative is serving as a purgative and a self-made billionaire doing what should&#039;ve been done years before: refusing the narrative of the Establishment is necessary and inevitable. 


I&#039;ve encountered the RINOs personally and they are a repellent, disgusting sub-species who are as impossible to reason with as any liberal. They seek power, not understanding like any liberal. They are what controls the Republican party today and so what hope does a person who holds faith to the old religion have anymore? 

Trump is the latest lightning rod for this anti-Cuck drive and perhaps his presence will inspire greater militancy from GOP Cucks. Such a spine stiffening purge is long past due and scheduled.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The country and people in general favor the bolder, alpha approach to politics. While both Fiorina and Trump show a willingness to confront and back up their beliefs, Trump demonstrates the sort of aggressive and tough push-back-with-a-sneer that social con Republicans thirst for. Fiorina has seemingly done nothing since her time at HP. What accomplishments can she present that equal the TV wattage of Trump? I believe there is only one self-made female billionaire in the world (the rest inherited their money from their spouses or fathers); and so Trump is the best there is. </p>
<p>No one is impressed with a candidate with a lifetime of service in the political bureaucracy or working for someone else&#8217;s company. It&#8217;s why Obama&#8217;s and Kerry&#8217;s resumes were so  unimpressive and why the critics were vindicated in critiquing their qualifications.</p>
<p>The mealy mouthed McConnells and tear-eyed Boehners are reflected in Jeb Bush with his troll wife </p>
<p>Santorum and Cruz are equally confrontational but they appear as creatures of the toxic machine, not self made men.</p>
<p>The dual defeats of Obamacare to an apparently flipflopping Republican Chief Justice; and the collapse of any resistance to the Gay lobby is breeding a new term for these people as sell outs &#8211; or &#8216;Cuckservatives&#8217;. An anti-Cuckservative is serving as a purgative and a self-made billionaire doing what should&#8217;ve been done years before: refusing the narrative of the Establishment is necessary and inevitable. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve encountered the RINOs personally and they are a repellent, disgusting sub-species who are as impossible to reason with as any liberal. They seek power, not understanding like any liberal. They are what controls the Republican party today and so what hope does a person who holds faith to the old religion have anymore? </p>
<p>Trump is the latest lightning rod for this anti-Cuck drive and perhaps his presence will inspire greater militancy from GOP Cucks. Such a spine stiffening purge is long past due and scheduled.</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cornhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find it very interesting that many here like Carly, Cruz and Walker. All solid onservatives ready to challenge the status quo and get things done in DC.

Bush and Trump have no voting appeal to me at all. If either one of those two get the nomination, we lose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very interesting that many here like Carly, Cruz and Walker. All solid onservatives ready to challenge the status quo and get things done in DC.</p>
<p>Bush and Trump have no voting appeal to me at all. If either one of those two get the nomination, we lose.</p>
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		By: ConceptJunkie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Name recognition, period.

Trump has been a celebrity for decades.

No one outside of people who really pay attention to the tech field or politics knows who Fiorina is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name recognition, period.</p>
<p>Trump has been a celebrity for decades.</p>
<p>No one outside of people who really pay attention to the tech field or politics knows who Fiorina is.</p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Assistant Village Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Trump is manipulating the masses, I think they have manipulated him.  Those ideas were out there, waiting for a champion.  He has volunteered for that job because he wants the stage. I therefore don&#039;t trust his ideological instincts.

His political instincts look pretty good, though.

Side note: liberals seem unable to not mention his hair. To me, that is further evidence that liberalism is a social-acceptability doctrine spread by social, not intellectual means. The other criticisms are post hoc rationalisations (see Jonathan Haidt). What really bothers them is that he gives off all the wrong cultural signals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Trump is manipulating the masses, I think they have manipulated him.  Those ideas were out there, waiting for a champion.  He has volunteered for that job because he wants the stage. I therefore don&#8217;t trust his ideological instincts.</p>
<p>His political instincts look pretty good, though.</p>
<p>Side note: liberals seem unable to not mention his hair. To me, that is further evidence that liberalism is a social-acceptability doctrine spread by social, not intellectual means. The other criticisms are post hoc rationalisations (see Jonathan Haidt). What really bothers them is that he gives off all the wrong cultural signals.</p>
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		By: Randy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have not paid much attention to Fiorina, largely because I would not expect that a personality which is able to rise through the ranks of the corporate world is the right personality to tackle the problems we face.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not paid much attention to Fiorina, largely because I would not expect that a personality which is able to rise through the ranks of the corporate world is the right personality to tackle the problems we face.</p>
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