Besides, if Art wants to fight, he can take on the lower Leftist feminist challengers on the internet. The sky is the limit on those. There’s no point in me going along with Art Ful Dodger just because he wants to aggravate and pick an argument. Unless of course, there’s a reason Art Ful Dodger avoids such people.

good catch…

i should have ALSO been more careful in following my reference from trotskys work… which predates the etymology listing from nazi germany.

though the word as the WEST knows it is from Nazi Germany… the terms racialist, and others did exist, but not the term RACIST…

the later stuff in the post was also valid in that the ideas that came forth are credited often to south america, but seldom to the franfurt school.

thanks!

Actually, I was referring to this comment of yours, and to the following statements within it, which say that Trotsky coined the term “race” in 1930:

Ymarsakar Says: Critical race theories are consistent with the Democrat platform. In 1850, the Demoncrats developed a theory of the superiority of the white race and used it to harness political control over Republicans, other Southerners, and various other competitors. It was considered a legitimate cultural truth that the black “race”…..

Really? why do you piss into the well instead of getting your facts straight?

please let me know how you can have “race” theory when the term race was not in use until trotsky coined it? trotsky was born in 1879… and he invented the term in 1930

That was the statement to which I was responding, plus this one in that same comment of yours:

very hard to work on a concept of race before race was invented, wouldnt you say so?

You go on in your comment to discuss the origin of the word “race” and of the term “critical race theory.” My comment occurs right under that comment of yours, and that was the one to which I was referring.

I see, however, that after the Russian quote that you offered in the same comment (I assume it’s from Trotsky), there is an English translation that does mention the word “racist.” But I was referring to your remarks in that same comment.

and for neo. that quote came after in books about the period
Du Bois wrote a series of articles in The Crisis between 1922 and 1924, attacking Garvey’s movement, calling him the “most dangerous enemy of the Negro race in America and the world.”

The Marcus Garvey and Universal Negro Improvement Association Papers, Vol. X …
By Marcus Garvey whnich covers the time between 1920s and 1940s almost up to the 50s.

the book they were taking the quote from was “A Lunatic or a Traitor, ” The Crisis 28 (May 1924] – that same edition also had articles in abortion/eugenics “Intelligence Tests and Propaganda,” The Crisis, 28

The CRISIS is the official publication of the NAACP. It is a quarterly journal of civil rights, history, politics, and culture and seeks to educate and challenge its readers about issues that continue to plague African Americans and other communities of color. For over 100 years, The CRISIS has been the magazine of opinion and thought leaders, decision makers, peacemakers and justice seekers. It has chronicled, informed, educated, entertained and, in many instances, set the economic, political and social agenda for our nation and its multiethnic citizens.

a better example might be
The First Universal Races Congress met in 1911

however, i said the term RACIST was not coined till later, not the term RACE

in fact you can find the etymology of the word RACE, from the 16th century

“people of common descent,” a word from the 16th century, from Middle French race, earlier razza “race, breed, lineage, family” (16c.), possibly from Italian razza, of unknown origin (cognate with Spanish and Portuguese raza). Etymologists say no connection with Latin radix “root,” though they admit this might have influenced the “tribe, nation” sense.

now… is that ok?
🙂

See this. Also this.

And if Trotsky invented the term in 1930, what’s D.E.B. Du Bois doing using it in the 1920’s to refer to Marcus Garvery’s work?:

Du Bois wrote a series of articles in The Crisis between 1922 and 1924, attacking Garvey’s movement, calling him the “most dangerous enemy of the Negro race in America and the world.”

Now, perhaps he was meaning something different than the word “race” later came to mean in the political sense. Certainly the word has become freighted with so many layers of meaning by now that I doubt he used it in the exact same sense we do. And the left has certainly exploited issues of race and redefined them politically over the years.

Really? why do you piss into the well instead of getting your facts straight?

please let me know how you can have “race” theory when the term race was not in use until trotsky coined it? trotsky was born in 1879… and he invented the term in 1930

Славянофильство, мессианизм отсталости, строило свою философию на том, что русский народ и его церковь насквозь демократичны, а официальная Россия — это немецкая бюрократия, насажденная Петром. Маркс заметил по этому поводу: “Ведь точно так же и тевтонские ослы сваливают деспотизм Фридриха II и Ñ‚. д. на французов, как будто отсталые рабы не нуждаются всегда в цивилизованных рабах, чтобы пройти нужную выучку”. Это краткое замечание исчерпывает до дна не только старую философию славянофилов, но и новейшие откровения “расистов”.

“Slavophilism, the messianism of backwardness, has based its philosophy upon the assumption that the Russian people and their church are democratic through and through, whereas official Russia is a German bureaucracy imposed upon them by Peter the Great. Mark remarked upon this theme: “In the same way the Teutonic jackasses blamed the despotism of Frederick the Second upon the French, as though backward slaves were not always in need of civilised slaves to train them.” This brief comment completely finishes off not only the old philosophy of the Slavophiles, but also the latest revelations of the ‘racists.'”

very hard to work on a concept of race before race was invented, wouldnt you say so?

prior to that it meant
late Old English, from Old Norse ré¡s ‘current.’ It was originally a northern English word with the sense ‘rapid forward movement,’ which gave rise to the senses ‘contest of speed’ (early 16th century) and ‘channel, path’ (i.e., the space traversed). The verb dates from the late 15th century.

the online etymology dictionary guesses its from italian, but they dont get the first use was not in italy

“people of common descent,” a word from the 16th century, from Middle French race, earlier razza “race, breed, lineage, family” (16c.), possibly from Italian razza, of unknown origin (cognate with Spanish and Portuguese raza). Etymologists say no connection with Latin radix “root,” though they admit this might have influenced the “tribe, nation” sense.

Original senses in English included “wines with characteristic flavor” (1520), “group of people with common occupation” (c. 1500), and “generation” (1540s). Meaning “tribe, nation, or people regarded as of common stock” is by 1560s. Modern meaning of “one of the great divisions of mankind based on physical peculiarities” is from 1774 (though as OED points out, even among anthropologists there never has been an accepted classification of these).

so prior to the communists it was not used in terms of color of skin or culture.

as for critical race theory, you cant drum that up until AFTER hitler kicks out the Frankfurt school, and they come up with critical theory… or rather, the social versio of economic marxism…

Critical race theory (CRT) is an academic discipline focused upon the application of critical theory, a critical examination of society and culture, to the intersection of race, law, and power Critical race theory is often associated with many of the controversial issues involved in the pursuit of equality issues related to race and ethnicity.

and

Critical theory is a school of thought that stresses the reflective assessment and critique of society and culture by applying knowledge from the social sciences and the humanities. As a term, critical theory has two meanings with different origins and histories: the first originated in sociology and the second originated in literary criticism, whereby it is used and applied as an umbrella term that can describe a theory founded upon critique; thus, the theorist Max Horkheimer described a theory as critical insofar as it seeks “to liberate human beings from the circumstances that enslave them.”

and Max Horkheimer, and theodore adorno, and all those ilk, uncluding herbert marcuse, were the founders of the frankfurt school, which hitler ejected and who then came to the US to columbia college in manhattan… where their ideas spread communism (Which is why hitler kicked them out)

so your so off point your not even wrong

The phrase is generally attributed to theoretical physicist Wolfgang Pauli, who was known for his colorful objections to incorrect or sloppy thinking Rudolf Peierls documents an instance in which “a friend showed Pauli the paper of a young physicist which he suspected was not of great value but on which he wanted Pauli’s views. Pauli remarked sadly, ‘It is not even wrong’.”

This is also often quoted as “That is not only not right, it is not even wrong,” or “Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!” in Pauli’s native German. Peierls remarks that quite a few apocryphal stories of this kind have been circulated and mentions that he listed only the ones personally vouched by him. He also quotes another example when Pauli replied to Lev Landau, “What you said was so confused that one could not tell whether it was nonsense or not.”

Athenians created democracy
the private property thing came from judaism and christianity in their reverence of the individual
the law didnt back that for ages

and there is no separation of church and state, that is communist… there was only the mandate that the state would not pick religions and put one up like the church of england. this is why there are prayers in congress and all taht and that only the communist left is trying to impose a rule that does not exist.

they have done so well, you think that what they practice is backed. but it isnt.

So yann, if i tried to call myself chinese to the chinese and i did not have epicantic folds right, would they believe me? how about the inability to process alcohol in half the population? here is one, would the japanese be even MORE unacepting?

basically leftist rags say it doesnt exist…
but then contradict taling about whiteness

medical information lays out that not only does it exist, but you can track it as people married and had children and they married… because of somthing called Single nucleotide polymorphisms… not all groups have them, and many groups have combinations in the areas that are not protein active that show details.

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Most American Indians (91 per cent) have blood type O. The front teeth (incisors) of American Indians often display a characteristic shovel shape.

Pacific Islanders have skin of various shades of brown. The eyes are dark brown or black, with some obliquity and incidence of epicanthal fold. The nose is usually short and the hair is black, lank, and long. Pacific Islanders are mostly dolichocephalic, but some have mesocephalic (medium) or brachycephalic (wide) skull proportions. The most common blood types in Pacific Islanders are A (50 per cent) and O (42 per cent).

Steatopygia, a high degree of fat accumulation on the buttocks, is most common in native southern African populations. This distinctive characteristic, most noted in females, appears to be an adaptation to varying cyclic nutritional opportunities for hunter-gatherers. The front teeth (incisors) of Blacks often display a characteristic flat, spatulate shape.

The breakdown and absorption of lactose, the major sugar in milk, requires the enzyme lactase. Although babies are normally capable of producing lactase in sufficient amounts, more than 80 per cent of non-White humans lose this ability after about age two. Lactose-intolerant adults can suffer from abdominal cramps and diarrhea when they drink more than a little milk. Lactose tolerance apparently evolved in Whites as an adaptation permitting adult consumption of milk following the domestication of cattle about 6,000 B.C.

[artfldgr: this comes from their having cows in the north, as you could store hay, feed cows, and live on milk… this was a way to live through the harsh food poor winters… its also why the caucasian race dominates cheese making]

Dravidians tend to be of relatively tall stature. Their skin ranges from brown to almost black. Eyes are dark brown or black. Dravidians generally possess a dolichocephalic head with a long, narrow face and well-developed forehead. Hair is black or dark brown, straight or wavy, long. The nose is straight, long and narrow. The most prevalent blood types among Dravidians are O (37 per cent) and B (33 per cent).

Asians have black, straight, hair, scanty on the body and face, but long on the scalp. In cross section, Asian hair is circular. Male pattern baldness is relatively rare. The head is brachycephalic or mesocephalic, the skull usually devoid of prominent brow ridges. The most prevalent Asian blood types are O (38 per cent) and B (30 per cent). The front teeth (incisors) of Asians often display a characteristic shovel shape.

actually race is NOT about color, the original word, coined by trotsky in the history of the soviet revolution, revered to slavics and their love of their culture…

ie. the slavics did not want to give up their culture and have it rewritten by the soviets, and so they were racists, a new term coined by trotsky

so the whole point of this is to make whites so ashamed of their culture they become ruderless and moldable as US black population is.. and women population…

if you havent noticed the one group that is not as influenced by advertising, and fads is white males… women will wear their underwear out of their own clothes, blacks will dress as thugs so they cant get a job, etc.

all of those are things that show how easily socially manipulated they can be… with women leading the pack, or do you think convincing them to murder their babies and fight to protect that a proposition that women 100 years ago would find acceptable?

throuhg women, the modern nazis didnt have to make ovens and camps, they just had to send the women to school where whateer they are told they become, withotu muich protest. then they exterminate their family, destroy the economy that they want to work in, and hate their historical mates to the point of what? self extermination? oh, while at the same time, thinking that without children families and so on, they are the future of it all.

you let me know which group in our society can be convinced to do all that and be happy while also answering that they are extremely miserable.