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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/07/03/obergefell-was-a-close-decision-replete-with-warnings/#comment-905950</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2015 17:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[blert:

I don&#039;t think that judge actually has gotten married.  At least, I can&#039;t find any evidence of it.  He did come out, and he has been with his partner in a same-sex relationship for at least ten years, but I see no sign of marriage. Do you have a link to a report on that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that judge actually has gotten married.  At least, I can&#8217;t find any evidence of it.  He did come out, and he has been with his partner in a same-sex relationship for at least ten years, but I see no sign of marriage. Do you have a link to a report on that?</p>
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		By: Mr "Hate Crime"		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/07/03/obergefell-was-a-close-decision-replete-with-warnings/#comment-905929</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr "Hate Crime"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2015 11:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was/is the whole point of gay &quot;marriage&quot;: get sanction from the state and then use that sanction to to beat up on people who criticize homosexual deviancy in general, including churches. 

Anything they might say about &quot;religion is safe&quot; is false. Going after churches has been the goal from the beginning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was/is the whole point of gay &#8220;marriage&#8221;: get sanction from the state and then use that sanction to to beat up on people who criticize homosexual deviancy in general, including churches. </p>
<p>Anything they might say about &#8220;religion is safe&#8221; is false. Going after churches has been the goal from the beginning.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/07/03/obergefell-was-a-close-decision-replete-with-warnings/#comment-905909</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2015 07:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After California passed Prop 8 a federal judge held a bench trial which found the law unconstitutional. Then he came out and married his buddy.

The judge was on the CALIFORNIA Supreme Court.

He deemed it against the California State Constitution, as amended.

Then Attorney General for California, Jerry Brown, refused to represent the people&#039;s interest in sustaining the Proposition.

This polity was so upset with Jerry that they made him Governor at the next opportunity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After California passed Prop 8 a federal judge held a bench trial which found the law unconstitutional. Then he came out and married his buddy.</p>
<p>The judge was on the CALIFORNIA Supreme Court.</p>
<p>He deemed it against the California State Constitution, as amended.</p>
<p>Then Attorney General for California, Jerry Brown, refused to represent the people&#8217;s interest in sustaining the Proposition.</p>
<p>This polity was so upset with Jerry that they made him Governor at the next opportunity.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/07/03/obergefell-was-a-close-decision-replete-with-warnings/#comment-905895</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2015 04:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David:

Are you joking?  Such proprietors would be the target of demonstrations, boycotts, and probably violence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:</p>
<p>Are you joking?  Such proprietors would be the target of demonstrations, boycotts, and probably violence.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/07/03/obergefell-was-a-close-decision-replete-with-warnings/#comment-905888</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2015 03:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s how opponents in businesses should handle it. They should keep a sign stating that they oppose homosexual marriage, and consider it a perversion. (Be creative--whatever your grounds are, tell it.) When a gay couple comes in for their slave service (since it is no longer voluntary), bring out the sign and keep it present as the orders are taken, and at every meeting and presentation. 

Apparently gays think that the goods they demand are tainted by the providers&#039; opposition to gay marriage. Then vendors who oppose gay marriage should make sure the taint of words is front and center.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how opponents in businesses should handle it. They should keep a sign stating that they oppose homosexual marriage, and consider it a perversion. (Be creative&#8211;whatever your grounds are, tell it.) When a gay couple comes in for their slave service (since it is no longer voluntary), bring out the sign and keep it present as the orders are taken, and at every meeting and presentation. </p>
<p>Apparently gays think that the goods they demand are tainted by the providers&#8217; opposition to gay marriage. Then vendors who oppose gay marriage should make sure the taint of words is front and center.</p>
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		By: The Other Chuck		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/07/03/obergefell-was-a-close-decision-replete-with-warnings/#comment-905872</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Other Chuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2015 01:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Should have said: &lt;i&gt;...there is NO such thing as collective innocence.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should have said: <i>&#8230;there is NO such thing as collective innocence.</i></p>
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		By: The Other Chuck		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/07/03/obergefell-was-a-close-decision-replete-with-warnings/#comment-905870</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Other Chuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2015 01:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar, as a libertarian leaning conservative I support the expansion of liberty wherever and however it happens. 

I agree that the left is on a campaign of social warfare along with its longstanding economic warfare. Where I strongly disagree with you is lumping several million homosexuals under the banner of &lt;i&gt;The Gaystapo.&lt;/i&gt; There is a very noisy, belligerent cadre of them that grabs all the attention. But according to some figures, approximately 30% of them vote Republican. 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/05/gay-voters-republicans-doubled-2008_n_779111.html

Let me ask you a civil question. Because a small percentage of black people pillage and burn cities, does it follow that ALL, or even a majority of blacks are looters? You are assigning collective guilt. It is the same thing in reverse that &lt;i&gt;The Gaystapo&lt;/i&gt; does to Christians. 

And by the way, there is such a thing as collective innocence. Not all Christians are deserving of a free pass.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar, as a libertarian leaning conservative I support the expansion of liberty wherever and however it happens. </p>
<p>I agree that the left is on a campaign of social warfare along with its longstanding economic warfare. Where I strongly disagree with you is lumping several million homosexuals under the banner of <i>The Gaystapo.</i> There is a very noisy, belligerent cadre of them that grabs all the attention. But according to some figures, approximately 30% of them vote Republican.<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/05/gay-voters-republicans-doubled-2008_n_779111.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/05/gay-voters-republicans-doubled-2008_n_779111.html</a></p>
<p>Let me ask you a civil question. Because a small percentage of black people pillage and burn cities, does it follow that ALL, or even a majority of blacks are looters? You are assigning collective guilt. It is the same thing in reverse that <i>The Gaystapo</i> does to Christians. </p>
<p>And by the way, there is such a thing as collective innocence. Not all Christians are deserving of a free pass.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2015 15:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://neoneocon.com/2015/06/27/thoughts-on-the-rapidity-of-the-same-sex-marriage-sea-change/#comment-904653

&lt;b&gt;The Gaystapo controls the homo communities much as the Hitler Youth and SS controlled their neighborhoods, or the Stazis used informants and secret police.

It’s not about being a majority, being a majority just means you obey the Authority that the rest of the majority normals obey.

Independent humans are rare, less than 1%. And homos being less than 1% of the pop, has even fewer independent humans in that sample. And those few independent humans, are not the majority, not even of the 1%.&lt;/b&gt;-Ymar

The proof was pretty obvious right now and later on in the thread, but for some reason Leftist hating Chuck over there refused to deal with it. For someone that claims to be disgusted by the Left, Chuck really likes supporting a lot of Leftist social warfare. Coincidence?

Chuck&#039;s feelings are not as genuine or as strong, as he likes to think it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://neoneocon.com/2015/06/27/thoughts-on-the-rapidity-of-the-same-sex-marriage-sea-change/#comment-904653" rel="nofollow ugc">http://neoneocon.com/2015/06/27/thoughts-on-the-rapidity-of-the-same-sex-marriage-sea-change/#comment-904653</a></p>
<p><b>The Gaystapo controls the homo communities much as the Hitler Youth and SS controlled their neighborhoods, or the Stazis used informants and secret police.</p>
<p>It’s not about being a majority, being a majority just means you obey the Authority that the rest of the majority normals obey.</p>
<p>Independent humans are rare, less than 1%. And homos being less than 1% of the pop, has even fewer independent humans in that sample. And those few independent humans, are not the majority, not even of the 1%.</b>-Ymar</p>
<p>The proof was pretty obvious right now and later on in the thread, but for some reason Leftist hating Chuck over there refused to deal with it. For someone that claims to be disgusted by the Left, Chuck really likes supporting a lot of Leftist social warfare. Coincidence?</p>
<p>Chuck&#8217;s feelings are not as genuine or as strong, as he likes to think it is.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/07/03/obergefell-was-a-close-decision-replete-with-warnings/#comment-905804</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2015 14:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Other Chuck has lectured us that there is no Stazi, Gaystapo, or Gestapo organization in American suppressing dissent, just so you know where Chuck is coming from.

Informant or informant in training, if you ask me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Other Chuck has lectured us that there is no Stazi, Gaystapo, or Gestapo organization in American suppressing dissent, just so you know where Chuck is coming from.</p>
<p>Informant or informant in training, if you ask me.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2015 22:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Such fines, at such levels, are un-Constitutional on their face.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such fines, at such levels, are un-Constitutional on their face.</p>
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