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		By: davisbr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/26/gay-marriage-the-law-of-the-land/#comment-904709</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davisbr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Correction:

In my current analysis &lt;em&gt;from within my current worldview/gestalt&lt;/em&gt; of what is going on, the fallen doesn’t plan for its triumphs on what does or doesn’t happen during mere decades...etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction:</p>
<p>In my current analysis <em>from within my current worldview/gestalt</em> of what is going on, the fallen doesn’t plan for its triumphs on what does or doesn’t happen during mere decades&#8230;etc.</p>
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		By: davisbr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...we think alike, at times, Ymarsakar lol.

The left is a pawn. An artifice. The master behind all this plays a long game, and they are just one of its pieces.

In my current analysis of what is going on, the fallen doesn&#039;t plan for its triumphs on what does or doesn&#039;t happen during mere decades.

The end result, though, will be the same.

...rather my concern is about seeing it as it unfolds. I&#039;m not particularly brave; I&#039;d rather not have to be.

But, too, I&#039;d rather know, than not know, and be unpleasantly surprised.

I think the middle is done. Friday marked the beginning of one part of the end.

In their ignorance, the foolish will celebrate.

Perhaps, after all, ignorance really &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; bliss lol.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;we think alike, at times, Ymarsakar lol.</p>
<p>The left is a pawn. An artifice. The master behind all this plays a long game, and they are just one of its pieces.</p>
<p>In my current analysis of what is going on, the fallen doesn&#8217;t plan for its triumphs on what does or doesn&#8217;t happen during mere decades.</p>
<p>The end result, though, will be the same.</p>
<p>&#8230;rather my concern is about seeing it as it unfolds. I&#8217;m not particularly brave; I&#8217;d rather not have to be.</p>
<p>But, too, I&#8217;d rather know, than not know, and be unpleasantly surprised.</p>
<p>I think the middle is done. Friday marked the beginning of one part of the end.</p>
<p>In their ignorance, the foolish will celebrate.</p>
<p>Perhaps, after all, ignorance really <em>is</em> bliss lol.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Left may not be too far off from implementing their Final Solution. But it may still be a decade away if they are husbanding their death and rape squads, or much else of their military war assets.

Reid already tried taking over the ranchers in Nevada, and got most of them kicked out using federal or his mercenary shoot em up thugs. There was some resistance at the end, but they won&#039;t stop harassing those people.

They&#039;ll keep pushing, sending black and Islamic thugs to do most of the work, in Republican neighborhoods. Some blowback can be expected, especially if they think the rest of us are as meek and pacifist as the city serfs of Democrats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Left may not be too far off from implementing their Final Solution. But it may still be a decade away if they are husbanding their death and rape squads, or much else of their military war assets.</p>
<p>Reid already tried taking over the ranchers in Nevada, and got most of them kicked out using federal or his mercenary shoot em up thugs. There was some resistance at the end, but they won&#8217;t stop harassing those people.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll keep pushing, sending black and Islamic thugs to do most of the work, in Republican neighborhoods. Some blowback can be expected, especially if they think the rest of us are as meek and pacifist as the city serfs of Democrats.</p>
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		By: davisbr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/26/gay-marriage-the-law-of-the-land/#comment-904655</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 04:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOL. I was melodramatically referring to a &quot;final push&quot; kind of thing Ymarsakar. I fully agree that this goes back further than late last week. 

Much, much further back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. I was melodramatically referring to a &#8220;final push&#8221; kind of thing Ymarsakar. I fully agree that this goes back further than late last week. </p>
<p>Much, much further back.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/26/gay-marriage-the-law-of-the-land/#comment-904637</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2015 00:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;set in motion the dissolution of a blessed way of life.&lt;/b&gt;

Wasn&#039;t set in motion by them. If it appears that way now, it&#039;s because people lack accurate eyesight and wisdom to see it coming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>set in motion the dissolution of a blessed way of life.</b></p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t set in motion by them. If it appears that way now, it&#8217;s because people lack accurate eyesight and wisdom to see it coming.</p>
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		By: davisbr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/26/gay-marriage-the-law-of-the-land/#comment-904617</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In this moment of pessimism, my suspicions are that the &lt;em&gt;best&lt;/em&gt; outcome (&quot;best&quot; meaning &quot;least violent&quot;) will be the breakup of the states; so a &quot;Benedict Option&quot; of sorts, if you will.

The effectiveness of specific and overt &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005681&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Nuremberg&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007459&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;type laws&lt;/a&gt; probably will have been blunted enough by the strengthening of the 2nd during the past 15 years to stave off a &lt;em&gt;Kristallnacht&lt;/em&gt; &quot;event&quot; (I dunno if the Left has the fortitude, frankly); but it remains to be seen whether the Christian right will form a united front in time to avoid more outright persecution.

This thrice accursed Court has dealt a death sentence to the concept of &lt;em&gt;e pluribus unum&lt;/em&gt;, and set in motion the dissolution of a blessed way of life.

Idiots.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt; Hosea 7:8&lt;/b&gt; &lt;em&gt;They sow the wind, and so they will reap the whirlwind! The stalk does not have any standing grain; it will not produce any flour. Even if it were to yield grain, foreigners would swallow it all up.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...we&#039;re living in &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;interesting times&lt;/a&gt;. If this proves to be &lt;em&gt;the&lt;/em&gt; &quot;interesting times&quot;, emigrating won&#039;t be an escape.

å®ä¸ºå¤ªå¹³çŠ¬ï¼ŒèŽ«åšä¹±ä¸–äºº

Indeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this moment of pessimism, my suspicions are that the <em>best</em> outcome (&#8220;best&#8221; meaning &#8220;least violent&#8221;) will be the breakup of the states; so a &#8220;Benedict Option&#8221; of sorts, if you will.</p>
<p>The effectiveness of specific and overt <a href="http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005681" rel="nofollow"><em>Nuremberg</em></a> <a href="http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007459" rel="nofollow">type laws</a> probably will have been blunted enough by the strengthening of the 2nd during the past 15 years to stave off a <em>Kristallnacht</em> &#8220;event&#8221; (I dunno if the Left has the fortitude, frankly); but it remains to be seen whether the Christian right will form a united front in time to avoid more outright persecution.</p>
<p>This thrice accursed Court has dealt a death sentence to the concept of <em>e pluribus unum</em>, and set in motion the dissolution of a blessed way of life.</p>
<p>Idiots.</p>
<blockquote><p><b> Hosea 7:8</b> <em>They sow the wind, and so they will reap the whirlwind! The stalk does not have any standing grain; it will not produce any flour. Even if it were to yield grain, foreigners would swallow it all up.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;we&#8217;re living in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times" rel="nofollow">interesting times</a>. If this proves to be <em>the</em> &#8220;interesting times&#8221;, emigrating won&#8217;t be an escape.</p>
<p>å®ä¸ºå¤ªå¹³çŠ¬ï¼ŒèŽ«åšä¹±ä¸–äºº</p>
<p>Indeed.</p>
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		By: G6loq		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Two swords.&lt;/i&gt;

Only one is rhetoric.

The second is cold steel.

Armor up. And, train each and everyday and,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://time.com/3938050/orthodox-christians-must-now-learn-to-live-as-exiles-in-our-own-country/&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Benedict Option.&lt;/a&gt;

It&#039;s happened before. In our times the voters are to blame ....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Two swords.</i></p>
<p>Only one is rhetoric.</p>
<p>The second is cold steel.</p>
<p>Armor up. And, train each and everyday and,<br />
<a href="http://time.com/3938050/orthodox-christians-must-now-learn-to-live-as-exiles-in-our-own-country/" title="" rel="nofollow">The Benedict Option.</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s happened before. In our times the voters are to blame &#8230;.</p>
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		By: davisbr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/26/gay-marriage-the-law-of-the-land/#comment-904596</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davisbr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Luke 22:35-38&lt;/b&gt; - &lt;b&gt;35&lt;/b&gt; &lt;em&gt;Then Jesus said to them, &quot;When I sent you out with no money bag, or traveler&#039;s bag, or sandals, you didn&#039;t lack anything, did you?&quot; They replied, &quot;Nothing.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;b&gt;36&lt;/b&gt; &lt;em&gt;He said to them, &quot;But now, the one who has a money bag must take it, and likewise a traveler&#039;s bag too. And the one who has no sword must sell his cloak and buy one.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;b&gt;37&lt;/b&gt; &lt;em&gt;For I tell you that this scripture must be fulfilled in me, &#039; And he was counted with the transgressors .&#039; For what is written about me is being fulfilled.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;b&gt;38&lt;/b&gt; &lt;em&gt;So they said, &quot;Look, Lord, here are two swords.&quot; Then he told them, &quot;It is enough.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Two&lt;/em&gt; swords. 

Only one is rhetoric.

The second is cold steel.

Armor up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This.</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Luke 22:35-38</b> &#8211; <b>35</b> <em>Then Jesus said to them, &#8220;When I sent you out with no money bag, or traveler&#8217;s bag, or sandals, you didn&#8217;t lack anything, did you?&#8221; They replied, &#8220;Nothing.&#8221;</em> <b>36</b> <em>He said to them, &#8220;But now, the one who has a money bag must take it, and likewise a traveler&#8217;s bag too. And the one who has no sword must sell his cloak and buy one.</em> <b>37</b> <em>For I tell you that this scripture must be fulfilled in me, &#8216; And he was counted with the transgressors .&#8217; For what is written about me is being fulfilled.&#8221;</em> <b>38</b> <em>So they said, &#8220;Look, Lord, here are two swords.&#8221; Then he told them, &#8220;It is enough.&#8221;</em> </p></blockquote>
<p><em>Two</em> swords. </p>
<p>Only one is rhetoric.</p>
<p>The second is cold steel.</p>
<p>Armor up.</p>
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		By: Orson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Teo  - thanks for the correction.

rickl - my like-minded friends decided to go in 2010. If there was a Romney win, there might have been a delay of 5 to 10 years more. If not, then less. 

Our targets of interest range from New Zealand to Chile tothe Caribbean, or Canada and the Czech Republic (for divergent career opps, interests, language needs, etc), naturally. In other words, all over the map - almost no one wanting to go the same place.

You add that &quot;Europe is farther down the rabbit hole than we are....&quot; Of course, but perhaps somewhere in New Europe can hold the line longer? 

Another perspective is that without federalism, and with agreement on American Exceptionalism among the you falling under 50%...who here will keep the flames and ideals of Americanism alive?

We remain Patriots and American partisans. Tom Paine wrote about needing to go where ever there might be liberty - and spreading our visions there to allow others to flourish! That&#039;s the thing. 

There is a complimentary role for this goal by expats vis a vis the too rooted to leave home. And there are also personal advantages to be achieved. I think this explains the diversity of landings among us.

All of us have varying time horizons. One couple had to delay moving last year to manage the losing fight against brain cancer, for instance. The surviving widow left recently.

It is all so sad to go - but we must: at least more and more of us are voting with our feet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teo  &#8211; thanks for the correction.</p>
<p>rickl &#8211; my like-minded friends decided to go in 2010. If there was a Romney win, there might have been a delay of 5 to 10 years more. If not, then less. </p>
<p>Our targets of interest range from New Zealand to Chile tothe Caribbean, or Canada and the Czech Republic (for divergent career opps, interests, language needs, etc), naturally. In other words, all over the map &#8211; almost no one wanting to go the same place.</p>
<p>You add that &#8220;Europe is farther down the rabbit hole than we are&#8230;.&#8221; Of course, but perhaps somewhere in New Europe can hold the line longer? </p>
<p>Another perspective is that without federalism, and with agreement on American Exceptionalism among the you falling under 50%&#8230;who here will keep the flames and ideals of Americanism alive?</p>
<p>We remain Patriots and American partisans. Tom Paine wrote about needing to go where ever there might be liberty &#8211; and spreading our visions there to allow others to flourish! That&#8217;s the thing. </p>
<p>There is a complimentary role for this goal by expats vis a vis the too rooted to leave home. And there are also personal advantages to be achieved. I think this explains the diversity of landings among us.</p>
<p>All of us have varying time horizons. One couple had to delay moving last year to manage the losing fight against brain cancer, for instance. The surviving widow left recently.</p>
<p>It is all so sad to go &#8211; but we must: at least more and more of us are voting with our feet.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2015 06:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Y, I have said on occasion that we need a leader as a prerequisite for any hope of preserving our America, but you may well be right, we are not worthy of a Palin or a Fiorina or a true leader.&lt;/b&gt;

So far it&#039;s only a question, one I wanted people to think on.

The answer probably changes depending on the decade and the environment.

Did the Spartans deserve a leader like Leonidas? Can the Greeks volunteer to become better than their weak corrupt leaders?

&lt;b&gt;I will never bargain or accept. And despite some gloomy feelings, my attitude is one of personal resistance in any way I know how. If I were more clever, I would be actively subversive.&lt;/b&gt;

The words are only a superficial description. Acceptance merely implies accepting the reality of the consequences and or events in question. It doesn&#039;t pre determine what that really means for the moral agents involved.

For example, if I accept that the Left has massed a massive army totaling more power than can be physically seen in 2008, what would that require to defeat? It&#039;s easy to reject and deny that as being fantasy or some tinfoil hattery, that way there&#039;s no reason to be pushed into coming up with a desperate ploy. There&#039;s no reason to utilize the ultimate power, Death, to overcome some rainbow non existent unicorn Army of Utopian Totalitarianism.

Elections are enough to solve this problem, Iraq is recovering, they thought in 2008.1

Elections are enough in 2012.1

Elections have never won a single war in human history, although plenty of wars have been lost because of an election.

Breitbart and O&#039;Keefe were doing a lot of good work. Breitbart died... conveniently. O&#039;Keefe is still out there. But that&#039;s why individual hero units are not enough to win a war. That&#039;s why the IRS was more focused on killing the logistics. No money for Conservative 401s mean no army, since there&#039;s nothing to feed or train them with.

A leader is pretty useless without an army, and an army is pretty useless without hero units.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Y, I have said on occasion that we need a leader as a prerequisite for any hope of preserving our America, but you may well be right, we are not worthy of a Palin or a Fiorina or a true leader.</b></p>
<p>So far it&#8217;s only a question, one I wanted people to think on.</p>
<p>The answer probably changes depending on the decade and the environment.</p>
<p>Did the Spartans deserve a leader like Leonidas? Can the Greeks volunteer to become better than their weak corrupt leaders?</p>
<p><b>I will never bargain or accept. And despite some gloomy feelings, my attitude is one of personal resistance in any way I know how. If I were more clever, I would be actively subversive.</b></p>
<p>The words are only a superficial description. Acceptance merely implies accepting the reality of the consequences and or events in question. It doesn&#8217;t pre determine what that really means for the moral agents involved.</p>
<p>For example, if I accept that the Left has massed a massive army totaling more power than can be physically seen in 2008, what would that require to defeat? It&#8217;s easy to reject and deny that as being fantasy or some tinfoil hattery, that way there&#8217;s no reason to be pushed into coming up with a desperate ploy. There&#8217;s no reason to utilize the ultimate power, Death, to overcome some rainbow non existent unicorn Army of Utopian Totalitarianism.</p>
<p>Elections are enough to solve this problem, Iraq is recovering, they thought in 2008.1</p>
<p>Elections are enough in 2012.1</p>
<p>Elections have never won a single war in human history, although plenty of wars have been lost because of an election.</p>
<p>Breitbart and O&#8217;Keefe were doing a lot of good work. Breitbart died&#8230; conveniently. O&#8217;Keefe is still out there. But that&#8217;s why individual hero units are not enough to win a war. That&#8217;s why the IRS was more focused on killing the logistics. No money for Conservative 401s mean no army, since there&#8217;s nothing to feed or train them with.</p>
<p>A leader is pretty useless without an army, and an army is pretty useless without hero units.</p>
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