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		By: G6loq		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/19/belgium-slides-further-and-further/#comment-904199</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2015 07:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Insanity:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3304418/posts&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Life: It&#039;s not for me,&#039; says healthy 24-year-old Belgium scheduled to die by euthanasia this summer.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insanity:<br />
<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3304418/posts" title="" rel="nofollow">Life: It&#8217;s not for me,&#8217; says healthy 24-year-old Belgium scheduled to die by euthanasia this summer.</a></p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/19/belgium-slides-further-and-further/#comment-902888</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 18:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People underestimate the power of the Leftist alliance, at their own risk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People underestimate the power of the Leftist alliance, at their own risk.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/19/belgium-slides-further-and-further/#comment-902887</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 18:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Libertarian idiots said there would be no slippery slope. Were the idiots the fools or the ones who believed the fools?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Libertarian idiots said there would be no slippery slope. Were the idiots the fools or the ones who believed the fools?</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/19/belgium-slides-further-and-further/#comment-902874</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://althouse.blogspot.com/2015/06/where-doctors-perform-euthanasia-even.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Death Treatment- When should people with a non-terminal illness be helped to die?&lt;/a&gt;
(via althouse.blogspot.com)

This story is also reported from Belgium.  In fact, both stories probably have the same root, but are presented from different perspectives.  The reported story: &quot;The Death Treatment&quot;, covers assisted suicide for people with low quality of life.  I imagine that this perspective underlies the progress of pro-choice doctrine in liberal societies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2015/06/where-doctors-perform-euthanasia-even.html" rel="nofollow">The Death Treatment- When should people with a non-terminal illness be helped to die?</a><br />
(via althouse.blogspot.com)</p>
<p>This story is also reported from Belgium.  In fact, both stories probably have the same root, but are presented from different perspectives.  The reported story: &#8220;The Death Treatment&#8221;, covers assisted suicide for people with low quality of life.  I imagine that this perspective underlies the progress of pro-choice doctrine in liberal societies.</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/19/belgium-slides-further-and-further/#comment-902869</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo-neocon:

You&#039;re right.  I was thinking of another European story where &quot;doctors&quot; would assist killing patients with a low quality of life.  However, this story is comparable to the Schiavo euthanasia and selective-child policy.  

The process is purely progressive from conception to a premeditated death.  Perhaps it is inevitable that quality of life will be prioritized over life.  There seems to be a growing consensus to reject The Hippocratic Oath and similar moral standards (e.g. Judaeo-Christian).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo-neocon:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.  I was thinking of another European story where &#8220;doctors&#8221; would assist killing patients with a low quality of life.  However, this story is comparable to the Schiavo euthanasia and selective-child policy.  </p>
<p>The process is purely progressive from conception to a premeditated death.  Perhaps it is inevitable that quality of life will be prioritized over life.  There seems to be a growing consensus to reject The Hippocratic Oath and similar moral standards (e.g. Judaeo-Christian).</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anna:

I don&#039;t think you&#039;re just paranoid at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re just paranoid at all.</p>
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		By: Anna		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What I fear - and I believe my fears are not entirely irrational - is some sort of a move from explicit towards presumed consent.

It has already happened in many European countries with things such as organ donation, by implementing the opt-out system. If something happens to you and you are declared dead under whatever the current (lowered and not without medical controversy) criteria for being considered dead, they may take your organs - unless you have specifically opted out at an earlier point in your life.

Now, imagine the same logic applied to this problem: unless you have specifically opted out at an earlier point in your life, under certain conditions doctors may *presume* you consent to euthanasia. If it were a law, it would open up a lot of space for potential abuse, especially as euthanasia is more easily approved in a wider array of cases and on lesser grounds than it was originally intended (e.g. for psychological suffering alone).

Maybe I am just paranoid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I fear &#8211; and I believe my fears are not entirely irrational &#8211; is some sort of a move from explicit towards presumed consent.</p>
<p>It has already happened in many European countries with things such as organ donation, by implementing the opt-out system. If something happens to you and you are declared dead under whatever the current (lowered and not without medical controversy) criteria for being considered dead, they may take your organs &#8211; unless you have specifically opted out at an earlier point in your life.</p>
<p>Now, imagine the same logic applied to this problem: unless you have specifically opted out at an earlier point in your life, under certain conditions doctors may *presume* you consent to euthanasia. If it were a law, it would open up a lot of space for potential abuse, especially as euthanasia is more easily approved in a wider array of cases and on lesser grounds than it was originally intended (e.g. for psychological suffering alone).</p>
<p>Maybe I am just paranoid.</p>
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		By: G6loq		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3302242/posts&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From Moral Relativism to Reality Relativism.&lt;/a&gt;

Germane to this thread.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3302242/posts" title="" rel="nofollow">From Moral Relativism to Reality Relativism.</a></p>
<p>Germane to this thread.</p>
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		By: G6loq		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1796&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eugenics, euthanasia have deep American roots.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
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		By: G6loq		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Beverly&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Says: 
June 20th, 2015 at 1:44 am
Next up: Eugenics!

Eugenics,  euthanasia have deep American roots.
It was common parlance in the West in the 20&#039;s and 30&#039;s. In line with the communist concept of a &quot;Rational Society.&quot;

As to MDs and  euthanasia, it happens routinely in a end-of-life context. Lived through it in my family. I didn&#039;t object.

If euthanasia is institutionalized ... we have a big problem. The wackjobs will take over.

The veneer of civilization is thin. That is why one needs be able to defend it. Very personally, very individually, in a very ornery way.

I blame the voters....&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Beverly</i><i></i> Says:<br />
June 20th, 2015 at 1:44 am<br />
Next up: Eugenics!</p>
<p>Eugenics,  euthanasia have deep American roots.<br />
It was common parlance in the West in the 20&#8217;s and 30&#8217;s. In line with the communist concept of a &#8220;Rational Society.&#8221;</p>
<p>As to MDs and  euthanasia, it happens routinely in a end-of-life context. Lived through it in my family. I didn&#8217;t object.</p>
<p>If euthanasia is institutionalized &#8230; we have a big problem. The wackjobs will take over.</p>
<p>The veneer of civilization is thin. That is why one needs be able to defend it. Very personally, very individually, in a very ornery way.</p>
<p>I blame the voters&#8230;.</p>
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