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		By: Edward W Wagner		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[THERE SHOULD BE A LIST
Really, somebody should compile a list of all the conservative critiques of academic groupthink and intolerance. The genre goes back at least sixty years to Buckely in &#039;51 with God and Man at Yale.
I think I can easily come up with a dozen off the top of my head which would include these names: Buckley, Bloom, D&#039;Souza, Hart, Silverglate, Kors, Luckianoff, Wolfe ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THERE SHOULD BE A LIST<br />
Really, somebody should compile a list of all the conservative critiques of academic groupthink and intolerance. The genre goes back at least sixty years to Buckely in &#8217;51 with God and Man at Yale.<br />
I think I can easily come up with a dozen off the top of my head which would include these names: Buckley, Bloom, D&#8217;Souza, Hart, Silverglate, Kors, Luckianoff, Wolfe &#8230;</p>
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		By: Edward W Wagner		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Battle is Lost but the War can be Won.

As a life-long conservative who has observed the great right/left Battle of Academia first as a teenager then as a college student then as a resident of the largest college town in the world, Cambridge/Boston I think I can say, with a sense of relief, that the battle has been lost and we can lay down our arms. Every decade, when the academic regime became intolerably oppressive the right on campus would find some outside allies and fight so as to gain some measure of breathing space; every decade this breathing space got eaten away. 30 years ago a small foundation started offering seed money to conservative students to start campus newspapers and journals. The amount of angst and hysteria that the Dartmouth review, The Harvard Salient, the Tufts Primary Source could stir up was quite impressive. Whole print runs would be trashed with the tacit approval of administrations. Many prominent conservative journalists and thinkers are alumni of these papers. Many a student found the campus conservative paper an oasis of sanity. Did they change the tenor of the college campus at all? I am fairly sure some the commentary and covers they printed back in the 90s would not be tolerated today. They (we) lost.

But how hollow is the victory for the Lefte? With the Long March Through the Institutions complete these institutions are disintegrating and are soon to become as valuable to the left as Moscow in the hands of Napoleon&#039;s army. Conservative&#039;s should do all that is possible to hasten the disintegration. There are a few schools that are in the hands conservatives (or at least serious educators) such as Hillsdale, St John&#039;s, Aquinas, Grove City and others. Being somewhat detached form the Higher Ed ecosystem they will probably survive the deluge. Hell, quite a lot of them are already denied federal funds and have had make up the money privately. But for the most part the College campus should be closed and emptied of students who should be made to rely on the real world and private sources to train and/or educate themselves. Conservative should strive above all to keep these independent resources free from Federal and elite control for this will be the next project of the left--just at they are trying to put the Internet under the yoke of the U.N.

This liberating disintegration is occuring, as everybody knows, in any number of areas of human activity, such as journalism and entertainment. To give an example mentioned here: Yes the SFWoA and the Sci Fi publishing establishment in general is in the grip of political correctness but sales from self-publishing have equaled if not exceeded sales from traditional houses.

For a very long time we have been fighting a rearguard action. Time to change our tactics nay, our whole strategy. This blog, after all, is an example of that.

BTW, as well as the Bloom book, there are many great writings on this topic going back to Bill Buckley&#039;s first book in 1951. I highly reccomend Tom Wolfe&#039;s essay &quot;The Intelligent Coed&#039;s guide ...&quot; from the late 70s.

Edward Wagner]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Battle is Lost but the War can be Won.</p>
<p>As a life-long conservative who has observed the great right/left Battle of Academia first as a teenager then as a college student then as a resident of the largest college town in the world, Cambridge/Boston I think I can say, with a sense of relief, that the battle has been lost and we can lay down our arms. Every decade, when the academic regime became intolerably oppressive the right on campus would find some outside allies and fight so as to gain some measure of breathing space; every decade this breathing space got eaten away. 30 years ago a small foundation started offering seed money to conservative students to start campus newspapers and journals. The amount of angst and hysteria that the Dartmouth review, The Harvard Salient, the Tufts Primary Source could stir up was quite impressive. Whole print runs would be trashed with the tacit approval of administrations. Many prominent conservative journalists and thinkers are alumni of these papers. Many a student found the campus conservative paper an oasis of sanity. Did they change the tenor of the college campus at all? I am fairly sure some the commentary and covers they printed back in the 90s would not be tolerated today. They (we) lost.</p>
<p>But how hollow is the victory for the Lefte? With the Long March Through the Institutions complete these institutions are disintegrating and are soon to become as valuable to the left as Moscow in the hands of Napoleon&#8217;s army. Conservative&#8217;s should do all that is possible to hasten the disintegration. There are a few schools that are in the hands conservatives (or at least serious educators) such as Hillsdale, St John&#8217;s, Aquinas, Grove City and others. Being somewhat detached form the Higher Ed ecosystem they will probably survive the deluge. Hell, quite a lot of them are already denied federal funds and have had make up the money privately. But for the most part the College campus should be closed and emptied of students who should be made to rely on the real world and private sources to train and/or educate themselves. Conservative should strive above all to keep these independent resources free from Federal and elite control for this will be the next project of the left&#8211;just at they are trying to put the Internet under the yoke of the U.N.</p>
<p>This liberating disintegration is occuring, as everybody knows, in any number of areas of human activity, such as journalism and entertainment. To give an example mentioned here: Yes the SFWoA and the Sci Fi publishing establishment in general is in the grip of political correctness but sales from self-publishing have equaled if not exceeded sales from traditional houses.</p>
<p>For a very long time we have been fighting a rearguard action. Time to change our tactics nay, our whole strategy. This blog, after all, is an example of that.</p>
<p>BTW, as well as the Bloom book, there are many great writings on this topic going back to Bill Buckley&#8217;s first book in 1951. I highly reccomend Tom Wolfe&#8217;s essay &#8220;The Intelligent Coed&#8217;s guide &#8230;&#8221; from the late 70s.</p>
<p>Edward Wagner</p>
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		By: SCOTTtheBADGER		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I stand corrected. Still, he is sui generis with them.]]></description>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 21:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Caedmon&#039;s speculation missed the mark.

It&#039;s activists who think in terms of paradigm shift deliberately applying a proven effective method.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Caedmon&#8217;s speculation missed the mark.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s activists who think in terms of paradigm shift deliberately applying a proven effective method.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[His time as a tool was over. It was time for the New Left to take over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His time as a tool was over. It was time for the New Left to take over.</p>
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		By: The original Mr. X		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 18:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;So the demonstrators managed to force him out, too, despite how far he had gone to further the presence of black students at Cornell.&lt;/i&gt;

Ingratitude, thy name is leftism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So the demonstrators managed to force him out, too, despite how far he had gone to further the presence of black students at Cornell.</i></p>
<p>Ingratitude, thy name is leftism.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 14:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ScotttheBadger:

Holder went to Columbia, not Cornell.  From Wiki:
&lt;blockquote&gt;While at Columbia, Holder was a member of the Student Afro-American Society, which staged a non-confrontational occupation of the ROTC lounge and demanded that it be renamed the Malcolm X Lounge.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s quite a different situation, although related.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ScotttheBadger:</p>
<p>Holder went to Columbia, not Cornell.  From Wiki:</p>
<blockquote><p>While at Columbia, Holder was a member of the Student Afro-American Society, which staged a non-confrontational occupation of the ROTC lounge and demanded that it be renamed the Malcolm X Lounge.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s quite a different situation, although related.</p>
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		By: SCOTTtheBADGER		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 11:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric Holder was one of those occupiers at Cornell.  What a surprise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Holder was one of those occupiers at Cornell.  What a surprise.</p>
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		By: G Joubert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 03:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I entered college in 1967, stayed a couple of years, then left and enlisted in the military (I came back in 1973 with the GI Bill).  In some ways the world today --including college campi-- seems as tumultuous as the 60s, except I can&#039;t escape the feeling that today&#039;s commotion was astro-turfed by Obama, his minions, and other leftist activists.  Occupy, Rape Culture, etc., it just all seems fake to me. In the 60s there really was an unpopular war going on where young men were being drafted to go and die, and there really was a Civil Rights movement going on that essentially ended 100 years of Jim Crow. What&#039;s going on today, by comparison, that&#039;s of such great import causing unrest?  Just Marx&#039;s Revolution of the Proletariat, rewritten and updated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I entered college in 1967, stayed a couple of years, then left and enlisted in the military (I came back in 1973 with the GI Bill).  In some ways the world today &#8211;including college campi&#8211; seems as tumultuous as the 60s, except I can&#8217;t escape the feeling that today&#8217;s commotion was astro-turfed by Obama, his minions, and other leftist activists.  Occupy, Rape Culture, etc., it just all seems fake to me. In the 60s there really was an unpopular war going on where young men were being drafted to go and die, and there really was a Civil Rights movement going on that essentially ended 100 years of Jim Crow. What&#8217;s going on today, by comparison, that&#8217;s of such great import causing unrest?  Just Marx&#8217;s Revolution of the Proletariat, rewritten and updated.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2015 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was in the middle of all the protests in the late 60s and was, in fact, the object of many big protests. The issue initially was the Vietnam War. As a Navy recruiter at universities in northern California, my crew was the center of attention when we arrived on campus. I&#039;ve detailed all the vandalism here before - burning literature, painting our vehicles, flattening our tires, surrounding us so no one could come talk to us, threats, epithets, spitting at us, and more. The cowardly administrations would do little to try to control them.  I couldn&#039;t understand why the Deans and administrators thought these young draft dodgers needed to be catered to. But they did and it was cowardice - also, I suppose, their passive aggressive way of protesting against the Vietnam War. 

One of the big issues was so-called &quot;academic freedom.&quot; Just like today, the protestors didn&#039;t want people they disagreed with to be heard.  In many, many ways what we are seeing today reminds me very much of the 60s and 70s. 

We found that the STEM students were our best bet for recruits and that they disagreed with and disliked the protestors as much as we did.  I would wager the same is true today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the middle of all the protests in the late 60s and was, in fact, the object of many big protests. The issue initially was the Vietnam War. As a Navy recruiter at universities in northern California, my crew was the center of attention when we arrived on campus. I&#8217;ve detailed all the vandalism here before &#8211; burning literature, painting our vehicles, flattening our tires, surrounding us so no one could come talk to us, threats, epithets, spitting at us, and more. The cowardly administrations would do little to try to control them.  I couldn&#8217;t understand why the Deans and administrators thought these young draft dodgers needed to be catered to. But they did and it was cowardice &#8211; also, I suppose, their passive aggressive way of protesting against the Vietnam War. </p>
<p>One of the big issues was so-called &#8220;academic freedom.&#8221; Just like today, the protestors didn&#8217;t want people they disagreed with to be heard.  In many, many ways what we are seeing today reminds me very much of the 60s and 70s. </p>
<p>We found that the STEM students were our best bet for recruits and that they disagreed with and disliked the protestors as much as we did.  I would wager the same is true today.</p>
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