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		By: The Bookworm Beat 6-6-15 &#8212; the &#8220;I&#8217;m still standing&#8221; edition and open thread		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Bookworm Beat 6-6-15 &#8212; the &#8220;I&#8217;m still standing&#8221; edition and open thread]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] people are always angry when someone takes away their government money.  Neo-neocon writes about the bind in which Republicans find themselves, as well as the totally unrealistic expectations of the American [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] people are always angry when someone takes away their government money.  Neo-neocon writes about the bind in which Republicans find themselves, as well as the totally unrealistic expectations of the American [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/02/waiting-for-the-scotus-obamacare-subsidy-decision-what-next/#comment-898598</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 20:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isubmit to you the None of the Gubmint&#039;s Damn Business Messin&#039; with Healthcare Act:

1.  Eliminate the subsidies
2.  Eliminate the mandates
3.  Eliminate the penalties
4.  Eliminate the excise tax on medical devices
5.  Eliminate the federal exchange
6.  Increase tax deduction for HSAs
7.  Health insurance may be sold across state     lines.  (Probably the only constitutional thing Congress can actually do, commerce clause-wise.)
8.  Group policies may be written for affinity groups.
9.  Anybody who doesn&#039;t have health insurance can sign up for Medicaid.  It&#039;ll cost you 8% of what you make (or the average cost of health insurance in the US, or whatever number Congress agrees on.)

That&#039;s it.  Done!  Now let&#039;s move on to the Department of Stupification, the Department of Energy?  We don&#039;t got no stinkin&#039; Energy!  We don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; Energy, and the Department of Housing and Urban Corruption.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isubmit to you the None of the Gubmint&#8217;s Damn Business Messin&#8217; with Healthcare Act:</p>
<p>1.  Eliminate the subsidies<br />
2.  Eliminate the mandates<br />
3.  Eliminate the penalties<br />
4.  Eliminate the excise tax on medical devices<br />
5.  Eliminate the federal exchange<br />
6.  Increase tax deduction for HSAs<br />
7.  Health insurance may be sold across state     lines.  (Probably the only constitutional thing Congress can actually do, commerce clause-wise.)<br />
8.  Group policies may be written for affinity groups.<br />
9.  Anybody who doesn&#8217;t have health insurance can sign up for Medicaid.  It&#8217;ll cost you 8% of what you make (or the average cost of health insurance in the US, or whatever number Congress agrees on.)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it.  Done!  Now let&#8217;s move on to the Department of Stupification, the Department of Energy?  We don&#8217;t got no stinkin&#8217; Energy!  We don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; Energy, and the Department of Housing and Urban Corruption.</p>
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		By: Harold		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/02/waiting-for-the-scotus-obamacare-subsidy-decision-what-next/#comment-898546</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 15:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The country is in this fix because the Republicans are weak, feckless, spineless cowards. They let the Democrats run roughshod over the rules of Congress to pass Obamacare. They should have physically stopped the votes on this monstrosity.

And as feckless cowards they will do nothing sensible now, even given the opportunity a court decision may present.

And the assumption that a Roberts court would wreck Obamacare now is a great leap.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The country is in this fix because the Republicans are weak, feckless, spineless cowards. They let the Democrats run roughshod over the rules of Congress to pass Obamacare. They should have physically stopped the votes on this monstrosity.</p>
<p>And as feckless cowards they will do nothing sensible now, even given the opportunity a court decision may present.</p>
<p>And the assumption that a Roberts court would wreck Obamacare now is a great leap.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/02/waiting-for-the-scotus-obamacare-subsidy-decision-what-next/#comment-898518</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And in all of this wailing and punditry...

NO-ONE is apprehending that 0-care destroys the growth of the modern money supply -- and that this pressure will grow exponentially as the months go by.

Shutting down First Time Homeownership has STAGGERING implications for the GLOBAL economy.

&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;

One is reminded of Captain Smith, wandering the decks of the Titanic, unable to function.

He did so for the CRITICAL first half an hour.

The lost 30-minutes triggered all of the panic action to come.

&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;

The punditry is pacing the deck of the nation of state -- not apprehending that the ENTIRE flow of financial events has been inverted by 0-care.

We&#039;re not talking about 1/6th of the American economy; 

nor 6/6ths of the American economy; 

we&#039;re talking the ENTIRE planet.

For the modern world is (financially) hyper-power centric.

Until 0-care is functionally destroyed -- and its taxation of young marrieds is stopped -- the FDR engine of money creation is OUT OF GAS.

Only for a brief, transitory, time will foreign buying paper over the epic withdrawal of the FOUNDATION of the ENTIRE American real estate market: young families in formation.

The impact on (White) demographics will also be staggering.

&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;&#038;

AFTER the damage has reached a sea state of &quot;5&quot; on the Beafort scale will we see a horrific, violent, counter-rebellion.

The nihilist in chief will be remembered -- as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, ... all are remembered.

It&#039;s what happens when you breathe your own agitprop.

Genocide without angst.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in all of this wailing and punditry&#8230;</p>
<p>NO-ONE is apprehending that 0-care destroys the growth of the modern money supply &#8212; and that this pressure will grow exponentially as the months go by.</p>
<p>Shutting down First Time Homeownership has STAGGERING implications for the GLOBAL economy.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>One is reminded of Captain Smith, wandering the decks of the Titanic, unable to function.</p>
<p>He did so for the CRITICAL first half an hour.</p>
<p>The lost 30-minutes triggered all of the panic action to come.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>The punditry is pacing the deck of the nation of state &#8212; not apprehending that the ENTIRE flow of financial events has been inverted by 0-care.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not talking about 1/6th of the American economy; </p>
<p>nor 6/6ths of the American economy; </p>
<p>we&#8217;re talking the ENTIRE planet.</p>
<p>For the modern world is (financially) hyper-power centric.</p>
<p>Until 0-care is functionally destroyed &#8212; and its taxation of young marrieds is stopped &#8212; the FDR engine of money creation is OUT OF GAS.</p>
<p>Only for a brief, transitory, time will foreign buying paper over the epic withdrawal of the FOUNDATION of the ENTIRE American real estate market: young families in formation.</p>
<p>The impact on (White) demographics will also be staggering.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>AFTER the damage has reached a sea state of &#8220;5&#8221; on the Beafort scale will we see a horrific, violent, counter-rebellion.</p>
<p>The nihilist in chief will be remembered &#8212; as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, &#8230; all are remembered.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s what happens when you breathe your own agitprop.</p>
<p>Genocide without angst.</p>
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		By: Nolanimrod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nolanimrod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To give health insurance to 15 million people the Stalincrats imposed an unseen system on 300 million people under cover of night by lying about its coverage and effects. Since then every time a major feature of the law was set to become active Obama has deferred it until after the next election. Some rate increases and policy cancellations are being re-deferred.

It began with the betrayal of the &lt;em&gt;Stupak 13&lt;/em&gt; and since then the rain of high-handed, dismissive &lt;em&gt;Gruberizations&lt;/em&gt; proceed unabated.

These Klutzocrats remind me of something a friend, an organic chemist, once said to me:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you want to change the sink in your kitchen you buy a new sink, remove the old one, and install the new one. In organic chemistry, using the sink analogy, to install a new sink I have to completely disassemble the house and rebuild it from the ground up around the new sink.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To give free health care to 15 million people the Clownocrats have done something similar to the entire American insurance business and rewrote the rules about who works and how long for everybody.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To give health insurance to 15 million people the Stalincrats imposed an unseen system on 300 million people under cover of night by lying about its coverage and effects. Since then every time a major feature of the law was set to become active Obama has deferred it until after the next election. Some rate increases and policy cancellations are being re-deferred.</p>
<p>It began with the betrayal of the <em>Stupak 13</em> and since then the rain of high-handed, dismissive <em>Gruberizations</em> proceed unabated.</p>
<p>These Klutzocrats remind me of something a friend, an organic chemist, once said to me:</p>
<blockquote><p>If you want to change the sink in your kitchen you buy a new sink, remove the old one, and install the new one. In organic chemistry, using the sink analogy, to install a new sink I have to completely disassemble the house and rebuild it from the ground up around the new sink.</p></blockquote>
<p>To give free health care to 15 million people the Clownocrats have done something similar to the entire American insurance business and rewrote the rules about who works and how long for everybody.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/02/waiting-for-the-scotus-obamacare-subsidy-decision-what-next/#comment-898455</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt_SE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 05:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The GOP would be fools to intervene if the subsidies collapse. Obamacare is a wholly-owned Democrat disaster, and nobody who yearns for it will vote Republican anyway.

The GOP should ignore the caterwauling, and restore the previous system. We do not reward bad behavior, or we will get more of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP would be fools to intervene if the subsidies collapse. Obamacare is a wholly-owned Democrat disaster, and nobody who yearns for it will vote Republican anyway.</p>
<p>The GOP should ignore the caterwauling, and restore the previous system. We do not reward bad behavior, or we will get more of it.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 04:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When the takers out number the givers, it will not take too long before what can not be sustained will not be sustained. The kicking of the can will one day meet the abyss. Prepare wisely for that day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the takers out number the givers, it will not take too long before what can not be sustained will not be sustained. The kicking of the can will one day meet the abyss. Prepare wisely for that day.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/02/waiting-for-the-scotus-obamacare-subsidy-decision-what-next/#comment-898422</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 02:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Given that the death spiral in premiums is getting started, it might be well better if the plaintiffs lose the Burwell case.

Yes, the media will try mightily to blame Republicans for this, but the law is quite unpopular still, so I don&#039;t think it will work this time.  Democrats own this law with all its defects.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that the death spiral in premiums is getting started, it might be well better if the plaintiffs lose the Burwell case.</p>
<p>Yes, the media will try mightily to blame Republicans for this, but the law is quite unpopular still, so I don&#8217;t think it will work this time.  Democrats own this law with all its defects.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/02/waiting-for-the-scotus-obamacare-subsidy-decision-what-next/#comment-898419</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rickl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 02:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;You can ridicule Republicans all you want, and rail at them for cowardice if they want to do something to replace subsidies in the event that a King ruling takes them away from many people. But Republicans run the danger of being blamed, as they always do, for any ensuing debacle as a result of the ruling.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As long as people who are dependent on government subsidies have the same vote as people who are paying for the subsidies, there is no way out of this.  

The universal franchise will doom us.  The Founders were perfectly aware of that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>You can ridicule Republicans all you want, and rail at them for cowardice if they want to do something to replace subsidies in the event that a King ruling takes them away from many people. But Republicans run the danger of being blamed, as they always do, for any ensuing debacle as a result of the ruling.</p></blockquote>
<p>As long as people who are dependent on government subsidies have the same vote as people who are paying for the subsidies, there is no way out of this.  </p>
<p>The universal franchise will doom us.  The Founders were perfectly aware of that.</p>
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		By: Matthew M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 23:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile, competent doctors retire earlier than they otherwise would have, and fewer of the best and brightest students go into medicine to begin with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, competent doctors retire earlier than they otherwise would have, and fewer of the best and brightest students go into medicine to begin with.</p>
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