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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/01/our-changing-moral-judgments/#comment-898481</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Janetoo They&#039;re working on pedophilia, the Left with their Hollywood subversion and the open borders with Cuba and other 3rd world traffickers in human resources.

Originally, a woman devoted her life, body, and mind to the clan or family. The respect she had for the leader was such that nothing else could get leverage on her, where even death was to be preferred over betraying her clan&#039;s orders. The men would have a similar loyalty to their women, in the form of risking their life to protect them. So the women were said to bite their tongues out and drown in the blood if captured for nefarious purposes by enemies (sort of like the Romans did when captured) and the men would risk their lives to protect them from external enemies. Blood, honor, and authority.

This kind of society is very difficult to subvert by strangers or foreigners. Which is why the Left had to change some things.

Instead of a woman having most of her loyalty and authority taken up by her partner, the man, they fragment the loyalty so that women can feel just as much obedience to a male Democrat as they can to their fathers, brothers, lovers, etc. It distributes the emotions by fragmenting the relationship.

This makes men and women easier to mentally dominate using lower order techniques.

Most people think the issue is about some kind of consent or relationship quality. That is not the point of the Left&#039;s black ops and propaganda.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janetoo They&#8217;re working on pedophilia, the Left with their Hollywood subversion and the open borders with Cuba and other 3rd world traffickers in human resources.</p>
<p>Originally, a woman devoted her life, body, and mind to the clan or family. The respect she had for the leader was such that nothing else could get leverage on her, where even death was to be preferred over betraying her clan&#8217;s orders. The men would have a similar loyalty to their women, in the form of risking their life to protect them. So the women were said to bite their tongues out and drown in the blood if captured for nefarious purposes by enemies (sort of like the Romans did when captured) and the men would risk their lives to protect them from external enemies. Blood, honor, and authority.</p>
<p>This kind of society is very difficult to subvert by strangers or foreigners. Which is why the Left had to change some things.</p>
<p>Instead of a woman having most of her loyalty and authority taken up by her partner, the man, they fragment the loyalty so that women can feel just as much obedience to a male Democrat as they can to their fathers, brothers, lovers, etc. It distributes the emotions by fragmenting the relationship.</p>
<p>This makes men and women easier to mentally dominate using lower order techniques.</p>
<p>Most people think the issue is about some kind of consent or relationship quality. That is not the point of the Left&#8217;s black ops and propaganda.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/01/our-changing-moral-judgments/#comment-898466</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 06:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Over the years I’ve become even more convinced about the influence of the arts upon society.&lt;/b&gt;

It&#039;s difficult to separate the art from one&#039;s culture, and it is the culture that dominates civic awareness, not so much the laws. For example, if an invading force destroyed the rule of law, the culture would still exist to resist the invaders and their laws. It&#039;s not about the rule of law but the rule of the culture.

Western culture has been destroyed from the inside out.

Art is the heart of one&#039;s culture and the education centers for children are the mind. With both destroyed, a weak non existent spine cannot hold up the roof.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Over the years I’ve become even more convinced about the influence of the arts upon society.</b></p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult to separate the art from one&#8217;s culture, and it is the culture that dominates civic awareness, not so much the laws. For example, if an invading force destroyed the rule of law, the culture would still exist to resist the invaders and their laws. It&#8217;s not about the rule of law but the rule of the culture.</p>
<p>Western culture has been destroyed from the inside out.</p>
<p>Art is the heart of one&#8217;s culture and the education centers for children are the mind. With both destroyed, a weak non existent spine cannot hold up the roof.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/01/our-changing-moral-judgments/#comment-898457</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 05:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anna&#039;s take would be a rehash of the old &quot;if it feels good, do it&quot; (as long as it doesn&#039;t hurt anyone else). That sounds plausible for the younger generation, and I remember this sentiment from years ago.
IMO, this is incredibly short-sighted and why I&#039;m not a libertarian.
Libertarians seem to be interested only in rights, and not at all in responsibilities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna&#8217;s take would be a rehash of the old &#8220;if it feels good, do it&#8221; (as long as it doesn&#8217;t hurt anyone else). That sounds plausible for the younger generation, and I remember this sentiment from years ago.<br />
IMO, this is incredibly short-sighted and why I&#8217;m not a libertarian.<br />
Libertarians seem to be interested only in rights, and not at all in responsibilities.</p>
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		By: G6loq		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/06/01/our-changing-moral-judgments/#comment-898373</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 21:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;They have been indoctrinated into feeling what they think they should feel and not feeling what they think they should not feel about it.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;d say deconstructed:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theanchoress/2015/06/01/the-art-of-the-painless-coup-3/&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Art of the Painless Coup.&lt;/a&gt;

There&#039;ll be a reaction. Hopefully it won&#039;t go the way of the White Russians ....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>They have been indoctrinated into feeling what they think they should feel and not feeling what they think they should not feel about it.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d say deconstructed:<a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theanchoress/2015/06/01/the-art-of-the-painless-coup-3/" title="" rel="nofollow"> Art of the Painless Coup.</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;ll be a reaction. Hopefully it won&#8217;t go the way of the White Russians &#8230;.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 20:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Janetoo:

They have been indoctrinated into feeling what they think they should feel and not feeling what they think they should not feel about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janetoo:</p>
<p>They have been indoctrinated into feeling what they think they should feel and not feeling what they think they should not feel about it.</p>
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		By: Janetoo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 19:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do think the younger set are already agreeing to this &quot;open&quot; relationship arrangement in their &quot;dating&quot; lives. My daughter tells me about how long distance relationships are handled in her peer group (she is 28) and it involves &quot;love the one your with.&quot; I can&#039;t fathom why this does not destroy the original relationship (thinking back to my own youth - it would not have worked) but she swears by it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think the younger set are already agreeing to this &#8220;open&#8221; relationship arrangement in their &#8220;dating&#8221; lives. My daughter tells me about how long distance relationships are handled in her peer group (she is 28) and it involves &#8220;love the one your with.&#8221; I can&#8217;t fathom why this does not destroy the original relationship (thinking back to my own youth &#8211; it would not have worked) but she swears by it.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 19:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Janetoo:

There is a very popular sex-advice columnist, Dan Savage (who himself is gay), who advocates the idea that infidelity should be an agreed-on part of heterosexual marriage more often.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/06/30/dan-savage-on-infidelity-and-how-it-can-save-a-marriage/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and especially &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/03/magazine/infidelity-will-keep-us-together.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.  As I said, he is very popular (especially with young adults) and I think his writings may have some influence.  I also think it&#039;s an example of trying to bring an attitude more common in the male gay community into the mainstream.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janetoo:</p>
<p>There is a very popular sex-advice columnist, Dan Savage (who himself is gay), who advocates the idea that infidelity should be an agreed-on part of heterosexual marriage more often.  See <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/06/30/dan-savage-on-infidelity-and-how-it-can-save-a-marriage/" rel="nofollow">this</a> and especially <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/03/magazine/infidelity-will-keep-us-together.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>.  As I said, he is very popular (especially with young adults) and I think his writings may have some influence.  I also think it&#8217;s an example of trying to bring an attitude more common in the male gay community into the mainstream.</p>
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		By: Janetoo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 19:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Adultery and pedophilia will probably remain the last taboos. I find the fact that adultery remains on the list fascinating since the left has proclaimed sex to be something no one has the right to judge in any way, shape or form. It&#039;s personal - so - why should a partner be offended by their partner having external relationship sex urges? If the cheater still has feelings for the original partner or wife/husband, who is to judge them if they engage with another? So, clinging to adultery seems somehow narcissistic if you think about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adultery and pedophilia will probably remain the last taboos. I find the fact that adultery remains on the list fascinating since the left has proclaimed sex to be something no one has the right to judge in any way, shape or form. It&#8217;s personal &#8211; so &#8211; why should a partner be offended by their partner having external relationship sex urges? If the cheater still has feelings for the original partner or wife/husband, who is to judge them if they engage with another? So, clinging to adultery seems somehow narcissistic if you think about it.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 19:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with many here that Anna has pinpointed what is really going on, and, relative to your question, neo-neocon, I think you are right that people would find the consent aspect of an open marriage the key delimiter.  Hopefully people still find deceit morally wrong, and adultery is deceit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with many here that Anna has pinpointed what is really going on, and, relative to your question, neo-neocon, I think you are right that people would find the consent aspect of an open marriage the key delimiter.  Hopefully people still find deceit morally wrong, and adultery is deceit.</p>
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		By: Phil U.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back in the fifties, I wrote a college paper about how people establish their values or morality. I coined the term cultural osmosis, since most don’t actually think them through, they absorb them. We went from cowboys, detective stories and twin beds to the artistic content we have today. We also saw the influence of religion become less and less, with little to replace it. Over the years I’ve become even more convinced about the influence of the arts upon society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the fifties, I wrote a college paper about how people establish their values or morality. I coined the term cultural osmosis, since most don’t actually think them through, they absorb them. We went from cowboys, detective stories and twin beds to the artistic content we have today. We also saw the influence of religion become less and less, with little to replace it. Over the years I’ve become even more convinced about the influence of the arts upon society.</p>
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