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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/05/30/silk-road-head-ulbricht-sentenced-to-life/#comment-898201</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2015 03:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Humanity&#039;s greatest enemy is itself. Thus a person&#039;s greatest enemy is them self or something very very close to them.

Statesmen talk about geo politics because they are responsible for changing geo politics. The people at the bottom obeying orders, what will they gain by prioritizing geo politics over their own domestic situation?

The enemy is a lot closer than people would like to think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humanity&#8217;s greatest enemy is itself. Thus a person&#8217;s greatest enemy is them self or something very very close to them.</p>
<p>Statesmen talk about geo politics because they are responsible for changing geo politics. The people at the bottom obeying orders, what will they gain by prioritizing geo politics over their own domestic situation?</p>
<p>The enemy is a lot closer than people would like to think.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/05/30/silk-road-head-ulbricht-sentenced-to-life/#comment-898046</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2015 15:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lets hope Neo is not in the first strike area, that way we can here her comments after things start, otherwise we will have to just remember her fondly... 

after all, ignore the conflict, and what happens?

if such happens, guess who has total control over the US And can negate the constitition and even give up and sign a treaty putting russia in control... 

anyone want to discuss this stuff, the new equipment, our failed development, the stolen stuff, the amassing troops and equipment, the lack of ability of the citizens to fight, the ignoranve of immigrants who dont know us law requires them to fight in a war, and on and on

i will come back later to find out if i am wasting my time putting lights in the old north church and running around screaming the war is coming the war is coming...  be prepared... 

if not interested and i am wasting my time, i will just give up...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets hope Neo is not in the first strike area, that way we can here her comments after things start, otherwise we will have to just remember her fondly&#8230; </p>
<p>after all, ignore the conflict, and what happens?</p>
<p>if such happens, guess who has total control over the US And can negate the constitition and even give up and sign a treaty putting russia in control&#8230; </p>
<p>anyone want to discuss this stuff, the new equipment, our failed development, the stolen stuff, the amassing troops and equipment, the lack of ability of the citizens to fight, the ignoranve of immigrants who dont know us law requires them to fight in a war, and on and on</p>
<p>i will come back later to find out if i am wasting my time putting lights in the old north church and running around screaming the war is coming the war is coming&#8230;  be prepared&#8230; </p>
<p>if not interested and i am wasting my time, i will just give up&#8230;</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/05/30/silk-road-head-ulbricht-sentenced-to-life/#comment-898044</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2015 15:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Russian military jets and US destroyer clash in Black Sea &#039;posing danger to stability&#039;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-military-jets-and-us-destroyer-clash-in-black-sea-posing-danger-to-stability-10287303.html

Russia’s state service for international news, quoted a military source as suggesting the US ship had turned away following the incident, and boasting: &lt;b&gt;“It seems that the Americans did not forget the April 2014 incident when one Su-24 actually shut down all equipment on the new USS Donald Cook American destroyer with anti-missile system elements.”&lt;/b&gt;

yeah... being able to shut down american military equipment during conflict is not bad, its helpful. if they forget to save green power, the russians can help make sure things are turned off and save energy...

&lt;b&gt;What frightened the USS Donald Cook so much in the Black Sea? 

The State Department acknowledged that the crew of the destroyer USS Donald Cook has been gravely demoralized ever since their vessel was flown over in the Black Sea by a Russian Sukhoi-24 (Su-24) fighter jet which carried neither bombs nor missiles but only an electronic warfare device. 

On 10 April 2014, the USS Donald Cook entered the waters of the Black Sea and on 12 April a Russian Su-24 tactical bomber flew over the vessel triggering an incident that, according to several media reports, completely demoralized its crew, so much so that the Pentagon issued a protest&lt;/b&gt;

The USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) is a 4th generation guided missile destroyer

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer. In other words, the all-powerful Aegis system, now hooked up - or about to be - with the defense systems installed on NATO’s most modern ships was shut down, as turning off the TV set with the remote control.

The Russian Su-24 then simulated a missile attack against the USS Donald Cook, which was left literally deaf and blind. As if carrying out a training exercise, the Russian aircraft - unarmed - repeated the same maneuver 12 times before flying away.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

thats ok.. russian stuff is very old, doesnt work, and so on

but how hard is it to take out a blind dead destroyer once you negate its electronics? 

how long would a naval battle last if all the ships in it were turned into dead targets taht could not fight back? 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
&lt;b&gt;Salutin&#039; Putin: inside a Russian troll house &lt;/b&gt;

Former workers tell how hundreds of bloggers are paid to flood forums and social networks at home and abroad with anti-western and pro-Kremlin comments

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

 Paid as a Pro-Kremlin Troll: &#039;The Hatred Spills over into the Real World&#039;
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-ex-russian-internet-troll-lyudmila-savchuk-a-1036539.html
&lt;b&gt;Lyudmila Savchuk recently went public about her experiences working for a Russian Internet propaganda factory in St. Petersburg. In an interview, she describes how clandestine workers are promoting the Kremlin&#039;s message.&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russian military jets and US destroyer clash in Black Sea &#8216;posing danger to stability&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-military-jets-and-us-destroyer-clash-in-black-sea-posing-danger-to-stability-10287303.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-military-jets-and-us-destroyer-clash-in-black-sea-posing-danger-to-stability-10287303.html</a></p>
<p>Russia’s state service for international news, quoted a military source as suggesting the US ship had turned away following the incident, and boasting: <b>“It seems that the Americans did not forget the April 2014 incident when one Su-24 actually shut down all equipment on the new USS Donald Cook American destroyer with anti-missile system elements.”</b></p>
<p>yeah&#8230; being able to shut down american military equipment during conflict is not bad, its helpful. if they forget to save green power, the russians can help make sure things are turned off and save energy&#8230;</p>
<p><b>What frightened the USS Donald Cook so much in the Black Sea? </p>
<p>The State Department acknowledged that the crew of the destroyer USS Donald Cook has been gravely demoralized ever since their vessel was flown over in the Black Sea by a Russian Sukhoi-24 (Su-24) fighter jet which carried neither bombs nor missiles but only an electronic warfare device. </p>
<p>On 10 April 2014, the USS Donald Cook entered the waters of the Black Sea and on 12 April a Russian Su-24 tactical bomber flew over the vessel triggering an incident that, according to several media reports, completely demoralized its crew, so much so that the Pentagon issued a protest</b></p>
<p>The USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) is a 4th generation guided missile destroyer</p>
<p><b><i>As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer. In other words, the all-powerful Aegis system, now hooked up &#8211; or about to be &#8211; with the defense systems installed on NATO’s most modern ships was shut down, as turning off the TV set with the remote control.</p>
<p>The Russian Su-24 then simulated a missile attack against the USS Donald Cook, which was left literally deaf and blind. As if carrying out a training exercise, the Russian aircraft &#8211; unarmed &#8211; repeated the same maneuver 12 times before flying away.</i></b></p>
<p>thats ok.. russian stuff is very old, doesnt work, and so on</p>
<p>but how hard is it to take out a blind dead destroyer once you negate its electronics? </p>
<p>how long would a naval battle last if all the ships in it were turned into dead targets taht could not fight back? </p>
<p>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-<br />
<b>Salutin&#8217; Putin: inside a Russian troll house </b></p>
<p>Former workers tell how hundreds of bloggers are paid to flood forums and social networks at home and abroad with anti-western and pro-Kremlin comments</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house</a></p>
<p> Paid as a Pro-Kremlin Troll: &#8216;The Hatred Spills over into the Real World&#8217;<br />
<a href="http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-ex-russian-internet-troll-lyudmila-savchuk-a-1036539.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-ex-russian-internet-troll-lyudmila-savchuk-a-1036539.html</a><br />
<b>Lyudmila Savchuk recently went public about her experiences working for a Russian Internet propaganda factory in St. Petersburg. In an interview, she describes how clandestine workers are promoting the Kremlin&#8217;s message.</b></p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/05/30/silk-road-head-ulbricht-sentenced-to-life/#comment-898038</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Satellite images reveal Russian military buildup on Ukraine&#039;s border

Nato images show fighter planes, helicopters and troops which officials say could be ready to move in 12 hours

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/10/satellite-images-russian-military-ukraine-border 


neo has the opportunity to discuss the war before it starts rather than after and through all the propaganda that will change how and what happened in the history books... 

&lt;b&gt;Newsweek-May 28, 2015&lt;/b&gt;
Russian troops amassing heavy weaponry on Ukraine border
http://europe.newsweek.com/russian-troops-amassing-heavy-weaponry-ukraine-border-327904

The news comes as global thinktank the Atlantic Council launched a report, based on publically available information, demonstrating the sudden appearance of Russian soldier camps on the Ukrainian border, the movement of Russian armed kit into Ukraine and personal information of soldiers missing or dead as a result of the conflict


china is also moving to start a conflict, as the japan islands and korea is in play... 

lets go back to a lone drug dealer we cant do a thing about, and ignore the comming world war!!!!!!!!!!!!

&lt;b&gt;&quot;This is quite a simple fact, yet people have, for some reason, not assimilated it. Even if they do not necessarily watch Russian propaganda, many people still believe that in Ukraine, it is Ukrainians fighting Ukrainians, which is not true.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

the minute a conflict starts its Obama and Biden running things... 

imagine replacing eisenhower with obama and then imagine the future...

&lt;b&gt;Swathes of land near the Russian border towns of Kuybyshevo and Pavlovka appear as regular farmland in these satellite shots from 2013. However by summer 2014, after the Maidan protests in Kiev, both sites show a clear and intricate country road system, camp facilities and, in the case of Pavlovka, what appears to be an artillery firing position.&lt;/b&gt;

lets keep ignoring the things that MATTER for the things that are curious... cause thats how the cat got killed... 

&lt;b&gt;&quot;What we are saying is that you can locate this information too if you don&#039;t trust others&#039; methods. You come to the same conclusion if you just follow the evidence in front of your eyes.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

go look yourself.. 

if a war starts are you ready for it? 

or has neo helped distract us (unintentially) from preparing for the conflict people knew would come given hat russia and china may no have such an ideal chance again in 70 more years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is there somethign about women that makes them hide and ignore the unpleasant future in favor of frivolity and distraction?  it fit our old idea of women before feminist bs... it could be why women were negated from government participation historically... 

cause they cant accept sucha reality, they pretend such a reality is not going to happen and wont discuss its eventuality... deeming to prefer believing its not going to happen... 

but the preparation signs can be seen over the past 20 years... from ignored treaties, to making new equipment, to negating our equipment and public abilty, disarming our ability to produce (imagine a war and we have no factories and the furgeson people are in charge of our defense)

Go here to see images of before and after on the buildup... 
http://tinyurl.com/pdekkek

remember blitzkreig without opposition will mean countries will fall in days and hours not weeks, and that the US will not be able to deploy as obama has been removing experience, putting equipment out of play, and disarming unilaterally...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satellite images reveal Russian military buildup on Ukraine&#8217;s border</p>
<p>Nato images show fighter planes, helicopters and troops which officials say could be ready to move in 12 hours</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/10/satellite-images-russian-military-ukraine-border" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/10/satellite-images-russian-military-ukraine-border</a> </p>
<p>neo has the opportunity to discuss the war before it starts rather than after and through all the propaganda that will change how and what happened in the history books&#8230; </p>
<p><b>Newsweek-May 28, 2015</b><br />
Russian troops amassing heavy weaponry on Ukraine border<br />
<a href="http://europe.newsweek.com/russian-troops-amassing-heavy-weaponry-ukraine-border-327904" rel="nofollow ugc">http://europe.newsweek.com/russian-troops-amassing-heavy-weaponry-ukraine-border-327904</a></p>
<p>The news comes as global thinktank the Atlantic Council launched a report, based on publically available information, demonstrating the sudden appearance of Russian soldier camps on the Ukrainian border, the movement of Russian armed kit into Ukraine and personal information of soldiers missing or dead as a result of the conflict</p>
<p>china is also moving to start a conflict, as the japan islands and korea is in play&#8230; </p>
<p>lets go back to a lone drug dealer we cant do a thing about, and ignore the comming world war!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p><b>&#8220;This is quite a simple fact, yet people have, for some reason, not assimilated it. Even if they do not necessarily watch Russian propaganda, many people still believe that in Ukraine, it is Ukrainians fighting Ukrainians, which is not true.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>the minute a conflict starts its Obama and Biden running things&#8230; </p>
<p>imagine replacing eisenhower with obama and then imagine the future&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Swathes of land near the Russian border towns of Kuybyshevo and Pavlovka appear as regular farmland in these satellite shots from 2013. However by summer 2014, after the Maidan protests in Kiev, both sites show a clear and intricate country road system, camp facilities and, in the case of Pavlovka, what appears to be an artillery firing position.</b></p>
<p>lets keep ignoring the things that MATTER for the things that are curious&#8230; cause thats how the cat got killed&#8230; </p>
<p><b>&#8220;What we are saying is that you can locate this information too if you don&#8217;t trust others&#8217; methods. You come to the same conclusion if you just follow the evidence in front of your eyes.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>go look yourself.. </p>
<p>if a war starts are you ready for it? </p>
<p>or has neo helped distract us (unintentially) from preparing for the conflict people knew would come given hat russia and china may no have such an ideal chance again in 70 more years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>is there somethign about women that makes them hide and ignore the unpleasant future in favor of frivolity and distraction?  it fit our old idea of women before feminist bs&#8230; it could be why women were negated from government participation historically&#8230; </p>
<p>cause they cant accept sucha reality, they pretend such a reality is not going to happen and wont discuss its eventuality&#8230; deeming to prefer believing its not going to happen&#8230; </p>
<p>but the preparation signs can be seen over the past 20 years&#8230; from ignored treaties, to making new equipment, to negating our equipment and public abilty, disarming our ability to produce (imagine a war and we have no factories and the furgeson people are in charge of our defense)</p>
<p>Go here to see images of before and after on the buildup&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/pdekkek" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/pdekkek</a></p>
<p>remember blitzkreig without opposition will mean countries will fall in days and hours not weeks, and that the US will not be able to deploy as obama has been removing experience, putting equipment out of play, and disarming unilaterally&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Romanian analyst Anca-Maria Cernea who referred to a conference “by an excellent Polish analyst, Prof. Przemyslaw Zurawski vel Grajewski, who was saying that whatever the Russians were about to do, in terms of advancing to war, it was probably going to happen before Obama’s second term is over. So it’s going to be now, or quite soon, or never….”&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Romanian analyst Anca-Maria Cernea who referred to a conference “by an excellent Polish analyst, Prof. Przemyslaw Zurawski vel Grajewski, who was saying that whatever the Russians were about to do, in terms of advancing to war, it was probably going to happen before Obama’s second term is over. So it’s going to be now, or quite soon, or never….”</b></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[if they put him in jail for facilitating such things, why not the congress in jail for making open borders that facilitate the trade they just put this guy in jail for? 

oh... yeah... cause going after the actual criminals is harder than someone who has a website that facilitates things... and congress is untouchable if doing the same thigns as we no longer have equality before the courts as feminsts won the you have to treat people unequal to have equal outcomes. 

this is all part of the states concept that people who run businesses are responsible for what customers do - not the customers themselves. 

so if you own a bar, and someone deals some cocaine in the room, your responsible... close the bar, and the state saves money investigating the thing. 

you can go far back on this leftist concept to the laws that southern dems made that forced blacks to be at the back of the bus, and then forced bus drivers to be police of that law - which the black blame the bus companies not the dems in state. 

same with the TSA in which over 90% of explosives being smuggled in succeeded in tests, while they are busy trying to search you for drugs... i guess its all part of their buy drugs locally not nationally program of the greenies nad local business. eh? 

the point here is that the citizens, unlike police, have no ability to do anything towards what they are responsible for... the bar owners who throw out a minor dealer who does a transaction can be killed and does not have the freedom to carry a weapon like police doing the same job. they dont have threat of arrest, and they are fully responsible for taking over what is the states job and what the state takes taxes to pay for. 

but then again, when and where does it say that taxes are for the control of peoples behavior, not paying bills? and where does it say that its ok for state officials to see hookers, go to casinos, and horse tracks withthe taxes that they say they dont ever get anough of?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they put him in jail for facilitating such things, why not the congress in jail for making open borders that facilitate the trade they just put this guy in jail for? </p>
<p>oh&#8230; yeah&#8230; cause going after the actual criminals is harder than someone who has a website that facilitates things&#8230; and congress is untouchable if doing the same thigns as we no longer have equality before the courts as feminsts won the you have to treat people unequal to have equal outcomes. </p>
<p>this is all part of the states concept that people who run businesses are responsible for what customers do &#8211; not the customers themselves. </p>
<p>so if you own a bar, and someone deals some cocaine in the room, your responsible&#8230; close the bar, and the state saves money investigating the thing. </p>
<p>you can go far back on this leftist concept to the laws that southern dems made that forced blacks to be at the back of the bus, and then forced bus drivers to be police of that law &#8211; which the black blame the bus companies not the dems in state. </p>
<p>same with the TSA in which over 90% of explosives being smuggled in succeeded in tests, while they are busy trying to search you for drugs&#8230; i guess its all part of their buy drugs locally not nationally program of the greenies nad local business. eh? </p>
<p>the point here is that the citizens, unlike police, have no ability to do anything towards what they are responsible for&#8230; the bar owners who throw out a minor dealer who does a transaction can be killed and does not have the freedom to carry a weapon like police doing the same job. they dont have threat of arrest, and they are fully responsible for taking over what is the states job and what the state takes taxes to pay for. </p>
<p>but then again, when and where does it say that taxes are for the control of peoples behavior, not paying bills? and where does it say that its ok for state officials to see hookers, go to casinos, and horse tracks withthe taxes that they say they dont ever get anough of?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2015 05:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Smock Puppet:

I don&#039;t think you understand what was going on here.  This was not some arbitrary decision on the judge&#039;s part, and that kind of ruling is very basic to our system of jurisprudence and is designed to assure that idle speculation is not part of a trial, but that evidence is &lt;i&gt;evidence&lt;/i&gt;.

Did you go to the source cited there?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/28/recapping-week-two-of-the-silk-road-trial/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; it is [emphasis mine]:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The first order of business was to hear Judge Katherine Forrest’s decision whether or not to allow testimony about Mark Karpeles being an early suspect in the Silk Road investigation.  Judge Katherine Forrest ruled that any &lt;strong&gt;speculative statements or opinions&lt;/strong&gt; about who may or may not have been Dread Pirate Roberts would not be allowed in future testimony and that &lt;strong&gt;previous testimony would be stricken&lt;/strong&gt; from the record.  Judge Forrest expressed that &lt;strong&gt;statements about Karpeles or Ulbricht being Dread Pirate Roberts that are not rooted in presentable fact would be prohibited.&lt;/strong&gt;

This dealt a major setback to the defense as their cross-examination of Special Agent Jared Der-Yeghiayan about his &lt;strong&gt;suspicion&lt;/strong&gt; that Mark Karpeles was Dread Pirate Roberts seemed to have had a major impact on the jury.  While they won’t be able to forget what they heard, it will no longer be presented in the record for review.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The following evidence was then presented:
&lt;blockquote&gt;In week two the jury heard from the Government’s second witness, FBI computer specialist, Tom Kiernan.  Agent Kiernan, who led the October 31st arrest of Ulbricht and was the first investigator to view the defendant’s computer, described to the jury screenshots obtained from the seized laptop.  Among the most hard hitting evidence presented was a detailed journal of Silk Road administrative activities along with what appeared to be a complete log of TOR Chats between Dread Pirate Roberts and his associates.

With the Defense claiming Ulbricht only had control over the site for the first few months of it’s operation, they have a difficult road ahead of them in explaining the presence of Silk Road related documents and chat logs that span the life of the site on Ulbricht’s computer...

Defense Attorney Joshua Dratel’s cross-examination of Agent Kiernan focused on putting the idea in to the jury’s minds that the files found on Ulbricht’s computer related to Silk Road activities, may have been planted there by an external source.  As referenced in the Defense’s opening statements, Ulbricht is an “innocent” and “naive” young man who was setup to be the “fall guy” by the real operators of Silk Road.  To further this narrative, Dratel on numerous occasions referenced BitTorrent, a peer to peer file sharing program, that was running on Ulbricht’s computer at the time of his arrest.  The implication is that BitTorrent may have given hackers access to Ulbricht’s computer.  It isn’t clear yet if this argument will create enough doubt with the jury for them to acquit Ulbricht.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The rules of evidence are not arbitrary; they are in there for a reason.  Some stuff IS allowed, and some is not.  Opinion testimony is allowed by &lt;i&gt;expert&lt;/i&gt; witnesses based on evidence they have examined combined with their knowledge, not just speculation.  Witnesses can&#039;t just say &quot;well, I think it&#039;s so because I think it&#039;s so.&quot;  Would you like a whole bunch of people to be allowed to testify in a trial that they just happened to suspect (not based on anything in particular; just to suspect) that so-and-so is guilty of something?  That would not be justice; that would be a travesty of justice.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://trial.laws.com/objection/speculation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is the rule on speculation:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Speculation as an objection might arise in one of two forms. The first form of the speculation objection would be an objection against a question which calls for the witness to speculate, or to provide an answer to a question which he or she would obviously not know the answer to...

The second form of the speculative objection would be based on the witness providing testimony which was, ultimately, speculative in its form. The question itself might have been appropriately phrased, but if the witness provides evidence which is speculative, which he or she does not have direct knowledge of and is instead guessing at, then the evidence would be disallowed from the trial proceedings, as speculative evidence is not actually considered evidence. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have no idea why you call this &quot;shit&quot; or why it &quot;pisses you off.&quot;  It seems highly reasonable to me.  In fact, the exclusion seems &lt;i&gt;necessary&lt;/i&gt; if you want to aim at fairness and justice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smock Puppet:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you understand what was going on here.  This was not some arbitrary decision on the judge&#8217;s part, and that kind of ruling is very basic to our system of jurisprudence and is designed to assure that idle speculation is not part of a trial, but that evidence is <i>evidence</i>.</p>
<p>Did you go to the source cited there?  <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/28/recapping-week-two-of-the-silk-road-trial/" rel="nofollow">Here</a> it is [emphasis mine]:</p>
<blockquote><p>The first order of business was to hear Judge Katherine Forrest’s decision whether or not to allow testimony about Mark Karpeles being an early suspect in the Silk Road investigation.  Judge Katherine Forrest ruled that any <strong>speculative statements or opinions</strong> about who may or may not have been Dread Pirate Roberts would not be allowed in future testimony and that <strong>previous testimony would be stricken</strong> from the record.  Judge Forrest expressed that <strong>statements about Karpeles or Ulbricht being Dread Pirate Roberts that are not rooted in presentable fact would be prohibited.</strong></p>
<p>This dealt a major setback to the defense as their cross-examination of Special Agent Jared Der-Yeghiayan about his <strong>suspicion</strong> that Mark Karpeles was Dread Pirate Roberts seemed to have had a major impact on the jury.  While they won’t be able to forget what they heard, it will no longer be presented in the record for review.</p></blockquote>
<p>The following evidence was then presented:</p>
<blockquote><p>In week two the jury heard from the Government’s second witness, FBI computer specialist, Tom Kiernan.  Agent Kiernan, who led the October 31st arrest of Ulbricht and was the first investigator to view the defendant’s computer, described to the jury screenshots obtained from the seized laptop.  Among the most hard hitting evidence presented was a detailed journal of Silk Road administrative activities along with what appeared to be a complete log of TOR Chats between Dread Pirate Roberts and his associates.</p>
<p>With the Defense claiming Ulbricht only had control over the site for the first few months of it’s operation, they have a difficult road ahead of them in explaining the presence of Silk Road related documents and chat logs that span the life of the site on Ulbricht’s computer&#8230;</p>
<p>Defense Attorney Joshua Dratel’s cross-examination of Agent Kiernan focused on putting the idea in to the jury’s minds that the files found on Ulbricht’s computer related to Silk Road activities, may have been planted there by an external source.  As referenced in the Defense’s opening statements, Ulbricht is an “innocent” and “naive” young man who was setup to be the “fall guy” by the real operators of Silk Road.  To further this narrative, Dratel on numerous occasions referenced BitTorrent, a peer to peer file sharing program, that was running on Ulbricht’s computer at the time of his arrest.  The implication is that BitTorrent may have given hackers access to Ulbricht’s computer.  It isn’t clear yet if this argument will create enough doubt with the jury for them to acquit Ulbricht.</p></blockquote>
<p>The rules of evidence are not arbitrary; they are in there for a reason.  Some stuff IS allowed, and some is not.  Opinion testimony is allowed by <i>expert</i> witnesses based on evidence they have examined combined with their knowledge, not just speculation.  Witnesses can&#8217;t just say &#8220;well, I think it&#8217;s so because I think it&#8217;s so.&#8221;  Would you like a whole bunch of people to be allowed to testify in a trial that they just happened to suspect (not based on anything in particular; just to suspect) that so-and-so is guilty of something?  That would not be justice; that would be a travesty of justice.</p>
<p><a href="http://trial.laws.com/objection/speculation" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is the rule on speculation:</p>
<blockquote><p>Speculation as an objection might arise in one of two forms. The first form of the speculation objection would be an objection against a question which calls for the witness to speculate, or to provide an answer to a question which he or she would obviously not know the answer to&#8230;</p>
<p>The second form of the speculative objection would be based on the witness providing testimony which was, ultimately, speculative in its form. The question itself might have been appropriately phrased, but if the witness provides evidence which is speculative, which he or she does not have direct knowledge of and is instead guessing at, then the evidence would be disallowed from the trial proceedings, as speculative evidence is not actually considered evidence. </p></blockquote>
<p>I have no idea why you call this &#8220;shit&#8221; or why it &#8220;pisses you off.&#8221;  It seems highly reasonable to me.  In fact, the exclusion seems <i>necessary</i> if you want to aim at fairness and justice.</p>
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		By: Smock Puppet, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses."		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2015 05:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ulbricht&#039;s trial began on 13 January 2015 in Federal Court in Manhattan.[40] At the start of the trial, Ulbricht admitted to founding the Silk Road website, but claimed to have transferred control of the site to other people soon after he founded it.[41] Ulbricht&#039;s lawyers contended that Dread Pirate Roberts was really Mark Karpelé¨s, and that Karpelé¨s set up Ulbricht as a fall guy.[42] However, Judge Katherine Forrest ruled that any speculative statements regarding whether Karpelé¨s or anyone else ran Silk Road would not be allowed, and statements already made would be stricken from the record.[43]&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

This kind of shit pisses me off. If I was on the jury, &lt;b&gt;I would immediately have refused to convict.&lt;/b&gt;

Expose the fucking claims, and let the &lt;i&gt;FUCKING JURY&lt;/i&gt; decide what&#039;s the truth and what&#039;s a lie.

That&#039;s the principle of the freaking damned jury system, and this  &quot;some stuff is allowed, and some stuff is not&quot; notion is absolutely crap. It&#039;s a perversion of the English system of jurisprudence. 

&quot;Come the Revolution&quot;, one change needs to occur is to remove all this bovine excreta hiding Truth and Justice from the legal process, and put in place rules preventing it from being re-enabled.

The courts should be about Truth and Justice, not JUST &quot;The Law&quot;. 
&lt;b&gt;&#062;:-/&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>Ulbricht&#8217;s trial began on 13 January 2015 in Federal Court in Manhattan.[40] At the start of the trial, Ulbricht admitted to founding the Silk Road website, but claimed to have transferred control of the site to other people soon after he founded it.[41] Ulbricht&#8217;s lawyers contended that Dread Pirate Roberts was really Mark Karpelé¨s, and that Karpelé¨s set up Ulbricht as a fall guy.[42] However, Judge Katherine Forrest ruled that any speculative statements regarding whether Karpelé¨s or anyone else ran Silk Road would not be allowed, and statements already made would be stricken from the record.[43]</i></b></p>
<p>This kind of shit pisses me off. If I was on the jury, <b>I would immediately have refused to convict.</b></p>
<p>Expose the fucking claims, and let the <i>FUCKING JURY</i> decide what&#8217;s the truth and what&#8217;s a lie.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the principle of the freaking damned jury system, and this  &#8220;some stuff is allowed, and some stuff is not&#8221; notion is absolutely crap. It&#8217;s a perversion of the English system of jurisprudence. </p>
<p>&#8220;Come the Revolution&#8221;, one change needs to occur is to remove all this bovine excreta hiding Truth and Justice from the legal process, and put in place rules preventing it from being re-enabled.</p>
<p>The courts should be about Truth and Justice, not JUST &#8220;The Law&#8221;.<br />
<b>&gt;:-/</b></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2015 04:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People left unguided and alone make terrible decisions/mistakes, organic and psychological. Solitary confinement is terrible punishment for that reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People left unguided and alone make terrible decisions/mistakes, organic and psychological. Solitary confinement is terrible punishment for that reason.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2015 04:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[snopercod:

No, I&#039;m actually referring to something &lt;i&gt;physiological&lt;/i&gt;, the effects of drugs on the still-maturing adolescent brain.  See &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?q=effect+of+drugs+on+adolescent+brain&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>snopercod:</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m actually referring to something <i>physiological</i>, the effects of drugs on the still-maturing adolescent brain.  See <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=effect+of+drugs+on+adolescent+brain&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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