McCain’s wife chose her, so it wasn’t McCain’s own decisions nor was it the Republican staffers. The staffers are probably much more deeply infiltrated, as they serve as the gateways for the politicians. People like Noonan have a great deal of influence, when people think she is “objective” or “reasonable”.

The police have formed a separate sub culture where it is them against everybody else. Which means the lawyers, the gangs, and the civilians tend to get all grouped together. Since criminals come out of civilians, the police have formed their own little tribal identity, similar to the Muslims or Leftists, with the expected detriments, corruption, and consequences of tribal loyalty overriding national patriotism.

Just to choose one example, I too love Sarah Palin, I think anyone who listens to her and reads her objectively understands she is a highly intelligent person and (far more rare) an actual natural born leader.

Yet even people who like her and who agree with her were successfully propagandized into feeling embarrassed about her. To prove it, just imagine if she were the identical Sarah, but a leftist. She would be president in a heart beat, lionized as the Hillary we have always really wanted, a Strong Woman for the Ages putting Elizabeth (the first, not the Indian) to shame.

And the daily propaganda would be the usual blather about sexism if you disagree with her. But nobody, not even those who disagreed with bizarro Sarah’s leftist views, would find her embarrassing. The non-left in particular would bemoan the lack of a funny, natural, sharp, fascinating self-confident woman on their side.

Lol … to me, McCain did not want to win, and found more glory in losing. He was a narcissistic fraud, he just wanted his footnote in the history books. He is one of those Republicans my intuition and common sense says has been severely compromised by blackmail. He is a puppet.

He has no affinity for Palin and it is remarkable he chose her, regardless of the fact she was a woman. I forget if there was another woman available (Libby Dole?). At any rate, McCain’s sole achievement was to effect the destruction of Sarah Palin during the course of two months. He exposed her, and the left was ready for her, and now “conservatives” are embarrassed of her, never to be undone.

When I was a teenager in the 60’s William Buckley was my hero, which he remained for life. I enrolled as a Conservative the day of my 18th birthday, and remain an enrolled Conservative to this day.

I went to a high school very much influenced by the left and continuous leftist influence (yes, even in the 60’s), I went to a college which was the essence of leftist influence. I have spent my life in three cities overwhelmingly dominated by the Democrat party and heavily leftist. I have seen the left up close and personal.

But unlike many other folks, I saw it from the perspective of someone whose hero was Buckley, who read every issue of National Review, who read Hayek, Bastiat, Friedman, Sumner, and whatever else I could get my hands on.

The left has not changed. They have merely gotten vastly more powerful, and far more sophisticated. Think of the Weatherman Ayers evolving into the Ayers who got a president elected using fraud and subterfuge most people do not and cannot recognize let alone understand.

Although I am an enrolled Conservative I do not call myself conservative anymore. I do not know what conservative means anymore. National Review just published an editorial supporting gay marriage. Whatever the merits, that is not conservative.

What I do know is resistance to the left and their allies, islam.

Resistance seems to me the most effective concept when people otherwise disagree so much on so much, whether it has to do with God or government, or personal lifestyle.

I am not a professional writer and I do not write a blog. My “writing” philosophy is that I have reached an age where I say what I want, the way I want to say it. If I don’t achieve perfect understanding so be it. Part of my “style” is to skip past pointless words (as I regard them) such as, “I disagree with you”. A person (for example) can decide for himself whether there is disagreement and how much.

neo is the ideal of blog writers and writers in general when it comes to objectivity, tone, intelligence, fairness, knowledge and insight. In style, Robert Spencer is the only similar writer out there. There are many other wonderful writers (Steyn, Wlliamson, Hanson, many more) but they have a polemical tone (which I love) neo does not have (which I also love).

Posting comments on a blog is not writing for the public in the same way neo writes for the public.

With respect to the police, it is a far more complicated issue than most people of any opinion think. It is hard for people to believe or to see the extent of leftist influence and the corruption it has bred. But just to point to one aspect of concern, demonization has become a chief component of modern law enforcement, and its corrupt attitude has affected individual officers and departments, who are highly conversant with the means and methods of propaganda.

So you have even highly intelligent, perceptive “conservatives” for whom all you need to know is that WACO II is
about “biker gangs”.

Most of the Left’s mind control power is invested in the English language. So the moment someone accepts the Left’s language, and calls them a “biker gang” in their head, they now think of them as criminals that were “brawling” and thus needed the police to terminate them for the public good.

That is, rather than natural human logical conclusions, the logical conclusion intentionally planned out and set forth by Leftist manipulators. One requires a firewall filter before one can begin seeing this entity.

I’ve seen it used before. But the Left’s propaganda methods are far less effective on me, because I don’t agree to their conclusions and I don’t agree to use their Authority’s decision to word and classify things their way. In point of fact, I don’t even think in the English language, I run a second operating system in a foreign language that contains my real thinking. The English is a dummy box designed to trap viruses and root hacks.

What I said about being ambiguous only applies to the past threads, not to the current one; that would be the correction I would make.

To most of your conclusions, I have come to the same ones concerning Waco 1, although Waco 2 was unclear at the time. Later on, I was told interesting things like who shot first, who got shot first, and the placement of the shots as well as the bodies. Much like the “crazy terrorist executed in DC ramming through security check points and barricades”, the official story was 180 in reverse of several stated claims.

If even the smart and good people can jump on board the demonization train, it can go anywhere.

If you disagree with the OP post or an implication from it, state it out right, unless there’s a reason to do it otherwise. Personally, I don’t think anyone is immune to Leftist propaganda. I merely have built up better defenses over the years compared to some other people.

The power of the Left is not to be underestimated. No matter what a person’s politics are, they could easily be deceived and manipulated. After all, people here kept telling me that I was weird or wrong for supporting Sarah Palin after the two “interviews” proved she was a flake. The only thing it proved was how retarded weak the so called Republican voter is, plus the Libertarian Leftist hacks, and the Republican staff bought and paid for by Soros puppets.

You’ve made a lot of those comments like that. Such as for the police. But this wasn’t about current events, Ferguson, Gray, Baltimore, etc.

And since you haven’t clarified your position, this means your textual analysis writing of sarcasm is now morphing into being ambiguous. People are ambiguous when they don’t want to clearly state their position, for some reason.

For example, while you call your position one of sarcasm, you still haven’t clarified what you actually think happened during WACO 1 or Waco 2. Are you worried about the police or your fellow neighbors SWATing you?

39 of the 70 burned to death in the Waco tank assault were minorities, black (27), hispanic (6), and asian (6).

Waco represented the single greatest federally orchestrated one-day slaughter of racial minorities on American soil since Wounded Knee in 1890.

Zieg!

I was being sarcastic about the Branch Davidians. Sarcasm is not pretty and often not effective, as I demonstrated with mine.

One more thing vaguely along these lines.

I think we have to be very careful in falling for group against group propaganda.

In this regard, I fully understand and realize the phony racial animosity used by the left as a weapon to destroy this country. It is important to call it what is and to condemn it.

At the same time, I see people taking the racial bait and hardening their views into racial animosity. This serves the purposes of the left completely, and is one of the intended consequences.

Someone smarter than me and more eloquent can say what needs to be said about this, but it has to be somewhere along the lines that people have to be aware of being drawn into racial fights. Tell the truth, but be careful that YOU (plural) are not serving as a leftist stooge on matters of race.

OK, that was me being a not very clever smart ass.

I think WACO I was a government massacre of innocent Americans. It has been years since I looked at the details but my memory regards it as one of the most brutal episodes of government oppression in our history.

And Clinton got away with his massive distortion of history, just as he got away with the massive distortion of flight 800.

I think in general people are not aware of how successfully they have been and are manipulated by the left.

It is too early to tell, but WACO II might turn out to be on the same level as WACO I. There is an ongoing totalitarian-type injustice going on there. Probably more than 100 totally innocent people are incarcerated STILL as part of the cover-up of wrongdoing.

The “biker gangs,” like the Branch Davidians, are so successfully demonized that nobody cares, even though it is obvious that normal, everyday “conservatives” might very well be next.

(And the “gangs” included Christian bikers, “mom and pop” bikers, and more completely innocent bikers who were there for a completely innocent political meeting).

To my mind, WACO II is by far the most important story going, but there is total silence even on non-left sites despite the huge and hugely disturbing, ongoing violation of our Constitution.

As I have expressed often, I have deep respect for neo and the posters here. There is no place like it.

On the occasion you cite, neo went with the “bikers are mean and scary” approach (if I remember correctly) whereas to me the whole story seemed to be elsewhere. I respectfully disagreed with her assessment of the story.

And it turns out to actually have been elsewhere as each fascinating day reveals. Elsewhere except in the news, or even on non-left sites. Just silence and the triumph yet again of government force and manipulation.

If even the smart and good people can jump on board the demonization train, it can go anywhere. Toot! Toot! Next stop at a station nearby with neo admirers on the platform.

It’s related to crazy conspiracy theories. Except most conspiracy theories are smokescreens by the Left and are made out by incompetents that can’t figure out what happens if their theory was true.

I mentioned Republicans being on the black mail list and under the influence, some odd years ago, albeit not necessarily here. That was partially due to Sarah Palin helping to uncover that extra 5th column in 2008. The details of Ruby Ridge and WACO 1, though, helped in other matters concerning the Left. It’s why I wasn’t surprised at the friendly park rangers getting out the rods on American patriots and veterans when ordered to do so by their God Emperor Hussein. Federal government enforcement agencies have long been under authority, enough to override individual conscience or exile those who refused to obey.

It’s not difficult to supersede other people’s thinking, since I started the race years ago. They have a very very late start. Which is why people, when they begin questioning the Status Quo propaganda, should look back in the past and also question their previous assumptions, which came from the media as well. They just didn’t notice at that time. Now though, they don’t have any excuse, they are beginning to notice, whether they like it or not. That’s why I brought up Waco 1, because of what you said there, Ton.

Can you explain what you mean? I don’t remember what “I said” about “WACO 1” or when. I am not saying I didn’t, and am always happy to stand corrected, but I just don’t recall.

Is this blackmail related, I mean related to my wondering if the occasional seemingly bizarre self-defeating behavior of Republicans could be related to blackmail??