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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 19:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20130330/NEWS02/703309859

This is what the Left will do, not as an end goal, but merely as a means.]]></description>
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<p>This is what the Left will do, not as an end goal, but merely as a means.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 18:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some people hit upon key concepts involved in why humans are born and trained to Obey Authority, no matter the cost, as social animals first and foremost.

A key concept is survival, implied there is the personal resources of an individual. If a person has enough resources to survive, then their ability to be coerced lessens. Blackmail, social pressure, taking family members hostage, all are derivative branches of the same principle, personal and genetic survival. The human system does not really make much of a difference between the survival of the clan vs the survival of the individual, because unless the clan survived, the individual could not survive unless they joined another tribe as their slave. As a human becomes promoted in his or her hierarchy, as they obtain more personal resources, their tendency to Obey Authority also lessens, because their fear of exile also lessens. Just some individuals have had this abundance self confidence or arrogant pride in their early days, they didn&#039;t need age to give it to them. They didn&#039;t need a job or a title or social authorities to give it to them. They already had it, inherent to their birth or soul.

Another key concept is willpower. Even if a person had the resources to survive, if they lack the confidence and the willpower to do things, then it would be easy for an outside force to control them with threats or promises of greater rewards. Willpower can be objectively assessed through pain, hedonistic pleasure, and via direct eye to eye contact without looking away. The strongest humans in existence can overcome their natural instinct to obey pain and pleasure. The strongest humans can maintain eye contact with anyone for more than 60 minutes straight, with no breaks other than eye blinks. Willpower is not merely the ability to master yourself, but it is also the ability to project self mastery over others, including animals, in your immediate vicinity. Some people call it charisma or magnetic personality.

And yet another concept, this one is a bit muddy, is that obedience operates under a chain of command, or a hierarchy, so external authority no longer applies if an internal authority has already conquered the territory and the loyalty of the people. Unless an Authority can claim to supersede the local authority in some fashion, the orders of the Authority will not command obedience very well. This is often seen in cultural or military invasions, as the occupation attempts to coral the locals. The power of any authority decreases the farther away they are, and it decreases even further the less power or ruthlessness they have. So one of the easier ways to lock out all non authorized commands is to set in an administrator exclusive level of access. Have God command you to use your free will in all things, so that no human subordinate or temporal agency can override that command in the human hierarchy. By accepting the omnipotency of God as the Sole Authority, this prevents others from mind controlling you, except through direct physical methods that can access the neural channels which connect to your brain or soul. The exception is when people worship idols or priests, and take the word of a prophet like child molestor Mohammed, as being the direct word of God. In that sense, it&#039;s easy to obtain administrator privileges for a human, which means they can override the free will of any true believer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people hit upon key concepts involved in why humans are born and trained to Obey Authority, no matter the cost, as social animals first and foremost.</p>
<p>A key concept is survival, implied there is the personal resources of an individual. If a person has enough resources to survive, then their ability to be coerced lessens. Blackmail, social pressure, taking family members hostage, all are derivative branches of the same principle, personal and genetic survival. The human system does not really make much of a difference between the survival of the clan vs the survival of the individual, because unless the clan survived, the individual could not survive unless they joined another tribe as their slave. As a human becomes promoted in his or her hierarchy, as they obtain more personal resources, their tendency to Obey Authority also lessens, because their fear of exile also lessens. Just some individuals have had this abundance self confidence or arrogant pride in their early days, they didn&#8217;t need age to give it to them. They didn&#8217;t need a job or a title or social authorities to give it to them. They already had it, inherent to their birth or soul.</p>
<p>Another key concept is willpower. Even if a person had the resources to survive, if they lack the confidence and the willpower to do things, then it would be easy for an outside force to control them with threats or promises of greater rewards. Willpower can be objectively assessed through pain, hedonistic pleasure, and via direct eye to eye contact without looking away. The strongest humans in existence can overcome their natural instinct to obey pain and pleasure. The strongest humans can maintain eye contact with anyone for more than 60 minutes straight, with no breaks other than eye blinks. Willpower is not merely the ability to master yourself, but it is also the ability to project self mastery over others, including animals, in your immediate vicinity. Some people call it charisma or magnetic personality.</p>
<p>And yet another concept, this one is a bit muddy, is that obedience operates under a chain of command, or a hierarchy, so external authority no longer applies if an internal authority has already conquered the territory and the loyalty of the people. Unless an Authority can claim to supersede the local authority in some fashion, the orders of the Authority will not command obedience very well. This is often seen in cultural or military invasions, as the occupation attempts to coral the locals. The power of any authority decreases the farther away they are, and it decreases even further the less power or ruthlessness they have. So one of the easier ways to lock out all non authorized commands is to set in an administrator exclusive level of access. Have God command you to use your free will in all things, so that no human subordinate or temporal agency can override that command in the human hierarchy. By accepting the omnipotency of God as the Sole Authority, this prevents others from mind controlling you, except through direct physical methods that can access the neural channels which connect to your brain or soul. The exception is when people worship idols or priests, and take the word of a prophet like child molestor Mohammed, as being the direct word of God. In that sense, it&#8217;s easy to obtain administrator privileges for a human, which means they can override the free will of any true believer.</p>
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		By: Sarah Rolph		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah Rolph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 18:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was a model for a life drawing class a couple of times in college. I found it fascinating. I had expected to feel a bit vulnerable, but instead I felt very safe. The artists were not looking at *me* in the usual sense. They were, as Lee explains, looking at lines and shapes, and they were working. I had a very strong sense of the effort each artist was making, and a sense of how serious an endeavor it was for them, to try to capture the human form skillfully and perhaps with some beauty. In a certain sense, they were the ones in the vulnerable position (because the work revealed how much skill and talent each one had). To cooperate in this way created an interesting type of intimacy and trust.

Pretty much the complete opposite of your experience.

Thank you for telling us this story. It really goes to the heart of what we need more of today--courage in the public square would be one way of putting it. Thank you for being a role model for that and for articulating the issues so well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a model for a life drawing class a couple of times in college. I found it fascinating. I had expected to feel a bit vulnerable, but instead I felt very safe. The artists were not looking at *me* in the usual sense. They were, as Lee explains, looking at lines and shapes, and they were working. I had a very strong sense of the effort each artist was making, and a sense of how serious an endeavor it was for them, to try to capture the human form skillfully and perhaps with some beauty. In a certain sense, they were the ones in the vulnerable position (because the work revealed how much skill and talent each one had). To cooperate in this way created an interesting type of intimacy and trust.</p>
<p>Pretty much the complete opposite of your experience.</p>
<p>Thank you for telling us this story. It really goes to the heart of what we need more of today&#8211;courage in the public square would be one way of putting it. Thank you for being a role model for that and for articulating the issues so well.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 18:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is merely the prelude to the Left&#039;s true nature, their perfect utopia for humanity, what I might call Slavery 3.0]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is merely the prelude to the Left&#8217;s true nature, their perfect utopia for humanity, what I might call Slavery 3.0</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 17:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The sexual (e.g. gender equivalence) revolution is notorious for causing unprecedented levels of collateral damage.  Not only did it cause the mass murder of tens of millions of wholly innocent human lives (i.e. debasement of human life), but it was the anthropogenic forcing for a broad range of catastrophic outcomes, including failed relationships and marginalized dignity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sexual (e.g. gender equivalence) revolution is notorious for causing unprecedented levels of collateral damage.  Not only did it cause the mass murder of tens of millions of wholly innocent human lives (i.e. debasement of human life), but it was the anthropogenic forcing for a broad range of catastrophic outcomes, including failed relationships and marginalized dignity.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 17:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The whole body language thing can&#039;t be learned by reading your own body. It&#039;s learned by physically trapping a subject and then reading their body language via external stimuli while cross checking results.

Human predators often interview the potential prey, to suss out which among the herd is the weakest, the most isolated, the slowest to run. This skill set is not developed in isolation, but as a kind of play or art in life.

One difference from the past and now is that students were often research subjects and guinea pigs for the Left&#039;s R and D process. The bosses didn&#039;t get naked because they were the researchers and the students the guinea pigs. Now a days, the researchers have gone native and are participating in their own hedonism. Perhaps because they now can or perhaps because the Left&#039;s R and D has reached certain goals.

Hunter kill squads have a similar initiation rite as well as death cults. It&#039;s designed to tear down the personal barriers so that the subject learns to obey the group consensus. Once they can overcome the stress barriers on private matters, ordering them to kill or slaughter &quot;Others&quot; that are outside themselves, becomes much less of a stress test. Small unit teasing and hazing, designed to artificially induce stress in the subject to test if they will break in combat or not, is also similar.

These control techniques are not known to many, because even the ones that use them, don&#039;t necessarily have a supreme intellectual or emotional understanding of them. Much like a cargo cult, if it works, they don&#039;t really care how it works.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole body language thing can&#8217;t be learned by reading your own body. It&#8217;s learned by physically trapping a subject and then reading their body language via external stimuli while cross checking results.</p>
<p>Human predators often interview the potential prey, to suss out which among the herd is the weakest, the most isolated, the slowest to run. This skill set is not developed in isolation, but as a kind of play or art in life.</p>
<p>One difference from the past and now is that students were often research subjects and guinea pigs for the Left&#8217;s R and D process. The bosses didn&#8217;t get naked because they were the researchers and the students the guinea pigs. Now a days, the researchers have gone native and are participating in their own hedonism. Perhaps because they now can or perhaps because the Left&#8217;s R and D has reached certain goals.</p>
<p>Hunter kill squads have a similar initiation rite as well as death cults. It&#8217;s designed to tear down the personal barriers so that the subject learns to obey the group consensus. Once they can overcome the stress barriers on private matters, ordering them to kill or slaughter &#8220;Others&#8221; that are outside themselves, becomes much less of a stress test. Small unit teasing and hazing, designed to artificially induce stress in the subject to test if they will break in combat or not, is also similar.</p>
<p>These control techniques are not known to many, because even the ones that use them, don&#8217;t necessarily have a supreme intellectual or emotional understanding of them. Much like a cargo cult, if it works, they don&#8217;t really care how it works.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/05/28/getting-credit-for-getting-naked-a-trip-back-in-time/#comment-897263</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 17:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Left complains much about Gitmo&#039;s enhanced interrogation of foreign terrorists, the Left&#039;s actual allies, because they don&#039;t like their monopoly on coercion to be dispersed to patriots or organizations set out on hurting Leftists or Leftist allies.

It is not the coercion, the pain, or the effectiveness they dislike. It&#039;s the fact that it works too well and isn&#039;t under the control of Leftists. Leftists love mind control, brain washing, and interrogation protocols. They have made use of several secretive and lesser known techniques over the centuries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Left complains much about Gitmo&#8217;s enhanced interrogation of foreign terrorists, the Left&#8217;s actual allies, because they don&#8217;t like their monopoly on coercion to be dispersed to patriots or organizations set out on hurting Leftists or Leftist allies.</p>
<p>It is not the coercion, the pain, or the effectiveness they dislike. It&#8217;s the fact that it works too well and isn&#8217;t under the control of Leftists. Leftists love mind control, brain washing, and interrogation protocols. They have made use of several secretive and lesser known techniques over the centuries.</p>
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		By: Lee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 09:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[T -- 

True about the life drawing models. Also, you&#039;re concentrating so hard on drawing them, they are not live beings, but shapes, and shadows, and textures. It&#039;s the same process as drawing a still life, in a sense while you are drawing them. But back when I was drawing life models, no one sat on a position where the genitals would feature prominently in the drawing, and no one drew the gavials genitalia in much detail.

Neoneocon -- 
The link didn&#039;t go much of any where where there was a book...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T &#8212; </p>
<p>True about the life drawing models. Also, you&#8217;re concentrating so hard on drawing them, they are not live beings, but shapes, and shadows, and textures. It&#8217;s the same process as drawing a still life, in a sense while you are drawing them. But back when I was drawing life models, no one sat on a position where the genitals would feature prominently in the drawing, and no one drew the gavials genitalia in much detail.</p>
<p>Neoneocon &#8212;<br />
The link didn&#8217;t go much of any where where there was a book&#8230;</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 04:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mrs Whatsit:

I remember her saying something to me after class, but I actually don&#039;t remember what.  By the way, I also pointed out to her (I believe in a private conversation  after class) that I thought it interesting that SHE was exempt from disrobing and standing in front of the class.  

On the paper I turned in, however, there is a little note from the professor that reads, &quot;Jean--I appreciated your taking time to share your negative reactions with me&quot; and then she suggested I read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Body-Reveals-How-Read-Your/dp/0062504886/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1432890841&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=the+body+reveals&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this book&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs Whatsit:</p>
<p>I remember her saying something to me after class, but I actually don&#8217;t remember what.  By the way, I also pointed out to her (I believe in a private conversation  after class) that I thought it interesting that SHE was exempt from disrobing and standing in front of the class.  </p>
<p>On the paper I turned in, however, there is a little note from the professor that reads, &#8220;Jean&#8211;I appreciated your taking time to share your negative reactions with me&#8221; and then she suggested I read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Body-Reveals-How-Read-Your/dp/0062504886/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1432890841&#038;sr=1-1&#038;keywords=the+body+reveals" rel="nofollow">this book</a>.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 04:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also, this is why Neo&#039;s change story doesn&#039;t convince me that a whole lot of others will do the same. Her integrity and strength of will was something inherent to her. It&#039;s not something gained by education or intellectual prowess. Thus people cannot become like her, since she is exceptional, and that means statistically other people won&#039;t change the way she changed.

Humans are weak. They desire leaders to tell them what to do and that is what they will get, one way or another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, this is why Neo&#8217;s change story doesn&#8217;t convince me that a whole lot of others will do the same. Her integrity and strength of will was something inherent to her. It&#8217;s not something gained by education or intellectual prowess. Thus people cannot become like her, since she is exceptional, and that means statistically other people won&#8217;t change the way she changed.</p>
<p>Humans are weak. They desire leaders to tell them what to do and that is what they will get, one way or another.</p>
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