People feared the charge of heresy and excommunication not because they thought they would be swayed. They thought that other people thought that they would be swayed. Social status and opinion mattered more.

The Arabs and Jews back then were pretty crazy and blood vendetta prone.

Even Christ’s acolytes were prone to the blood lust.

Virtue is about moderation or good judgment. Those people back then needed to tone their war stuff down. But the opposite is true for modern Westerners.

Ghandi was pretty flakey, as exemplified in his unreported comments.

And I agree with your point on why she may be “Changing”, that she has found Christ which is resulting in “Moral” thought.

The way I explained it back when Neo and others were talking about hierarchy and authority, was slightly different.

Humans have an internal chain of command. The authority of the orders they receive and obey, is ranked on a priority level. Thus when Hussein becomes the Left’s messiah and God Emperor, Hussein’s orders take priority. If Hussein orders them to help the death squads snatch or punish some conservatives… most Leftists will not disobey. They will obey, often gladly. Better you than them in their eyes.

So a Christian has been commanded to utilize their free will, by the highest Authority in their eyes. They must obey that command, no matter what. So unless a human mortal can convince them that they are God or immortal, the commands of a human is not going to override the commands of the Christian God, at least not in the eyes of devout Christians. The command slot has been filled, and it would require Hussein to kill the Christian God first, before a usurpation of power is achieved. Most people are left to the standard solution of killing the believers. Killing a god and taking their throne, is a far more difficult proposition. (Don’t worry, the Left’s working on that)

The Left will put her into full exile now.

In many ways, it would do the insurgency well to highlight the Left’s atrocities, especially against their own people. That’s how an insurgency sways public opinion against the occupation. When did we become an insurgency and not the occupiers of America? When people failed to grow a spine and use what they had, so they lost it, that’s how.

“People are frightened of even hearing different points of view lest they be swayed.”

This only happens when some Light is starting to crack through with the threat of illumination that “Uh Oh, this makes sense.” Either they swat it away and run, or counter attack the Light, or file it away in the “Don’t want to deal with it” file.

And I agree with your point on why she may be “Changing”, that she has found Christ which is resulting in “Moral” thought. The constant exposure to Conservative common sense is also having an effect though, I suspect. Most Leftists never actually hear the views of the Opposing side. It’s hard to argue with common sense continually. And she does seem to be principled enough to admit her mistakes.

I suspect the response to this book by the Left will be enough to push her over the edge and into her new tribe, however reluctantly. The Left will put her into full exile now.

My posts on Ghandi and his advice that people let themselves be killed: this, this, and this.

Jesus preached and practised “turn the other cheek” — but he was in a position to claim the victory. Maybe the idea is that we fulfil the lofty standard only when we’re spiritually ready to meet the lofty demand. Until then, whaddaya say we keep our eyes on the prize, doing our most sincere best?

Geoffrey Britain, 10:43 pm —

I think we’re converging, if not already converged.
Good discussion!

Ghandhi may well have been a ‘flake’ and a racist but that doesn’t mean he was wrong about everything. Or do you maintain for instance that Jefferson’s ownership of slaves obviates the Declaration’s premises and assertions? We all have feet of clay. We all fall short of what the best within us would have ourselves be.