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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks to women, society has a lot lower standards than before... ie. they lied when they said they can do the same things men can... and we been suffering for 50 years of constant declines to allow people who cant do the work, to be able to be hired, and not do the work for a salary

then there is the fact that they are now teaching that blacks naturally do not think working hard, studying, etc are valid, and so they need affirmative action to put them into jobs they can do cause culturally they are devoid of such practices and its not fair that such people are kept out of high paying jobs like brain surgeon just cause they wont work hard, study, and pass tests made by white men to block them from cutting peoples heads opan and poking around for six figures or more...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to women, society has a lot lower standards than before&#8230; ie. they lied when they said they can do the same things men can&#8230; and we been suffering for 50 years of constant declines to allow people who cant do the work, to be able to be hired, and not do the work for a salary</p>
<p>then there is the fact that they are now teaching that blacks naturally do not think working hard, studying, etc are valid, and so they need affirmative action to put them into jobs they can do cause culturally they are devoid of such practices and its not fair that such people are kept out of high paying jobs like brain surgeon just cause they wont work hard, study, and pass tests made by white men to block them from cutting peoples heads opan and poking around for six figures or more&#8230;</p>
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		By: avi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2015 12:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[charles,
 the story is Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut.
 I happened to refer to it in my post above yours.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>charles,<br />
 the story is Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut.<br />
 I happened to refer to it in my post above yours.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/05/04/firefighter-test-i-guess-fitness-isnt-so-fundamental-anymore/#comment-891215</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2015 05:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;We’ve lowered so many standards it seems like the next step would be to handicap those who are better than others to “level the playing field” even more.&lt;/b&gt;

Big business funded regulations already exist for that purpose. The Leftists call it wealth redistribution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>We’ve lowered so many standards it seems like the next step would be to handicap those who are better than others to “level the playing field” even more.</b></p>
<p>Big business funded regulations already exist for that purpose. The Leftists call it wealth redistribution.</p>
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		By: charles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2015 02:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beverly - those standards really don&#039;t look that tough.  Really they don&#039;t.  But, that was back in 1974 when we weren&#039;t a nation of couch potatoes.

Instead of &quot;wimping&quot; them down they should change that 150 lb. dummy into 200 or more to make up for a &quot;fatter&quot; America.

On another note: I can&#039;t seem to recall the story that we read in high school class many decades ago; but, it told of a future where the beautiful had to wear masks to hide their beauty so the less beautiful wouldn&#039;t feel so ugly, Intelligent people were forced to have earplugs so they couldn&#039;t hear as much and show off their superior intelligence, etc.

The one scene I remember was of the couple (the main characters of the story) watching ballet on TV and were talking about how clumsy the dancers were - But, they noted how less clumsy the one dancer was despite the huge weights placed on her ankles (the better dancers were forced to be handicapped with huge ankle weights so the less talented wouldn&#039;t feel any less talented)

At the time we all thought the story was absolutely ridiculous; but, now, I am not so sure that it isn&#039;t that far away.  We&#039;ve lowered so many standards it seems like the next step would be to handicap those who are better than others to &quot;level the playing field&quot; even more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beverly &#8211; those standards really don&#8217;t look that tough.  Really they don&#8217;t.  But, that was back in 1974 when we weren&#8217;t a nation of couch potatoes.</p>
<p>Instead of &#8220;wimping&#8221; them down they should change that 150 lb. dummy into 200 or more to make up for a &#8220;fatter&#8221; America.</p>
<p>On another note: I can&#8217;t seem to recall the story that we read in high school class many decades ago; but, it told of a future where the beautiful had to wear masks to hide their beauty so the less beautiful wouldn&#8217;t feel so ugly, Intelligent people were forced to have earplugs so they couldn&#8217;t hear as much and show off their superior intelligence, etc.</p>
<p>The one scene I remember was of the couple (the main characters of the story) watching ballet on TV and were talking about how clumsy the dancers were &#8211; But, they noted how less clumsy the one dancer was despite the huge weights placed on her ankles (the better dancers were forced to be handicapped with huge ankle weights so the less talented wouldn&#8217;t feel any less talented)</p>
<p>At the time we all thought the story was absolutely ridiculous; but, now, I am not so sure that it isn&#8217;t that far away.  We&#8217;ve lowered so many standards it seems like the next step would be to handicap those who are better than others to &#8220;level the playing field&#8221; even more.</p>
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		By: Avi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2015 20:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hopefully these Harrison Bergeron fire women will be sent only to the liberal pols homes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully these Harrison Bergeron fire women will be sent only to the liberal pols homes.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2015 17:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The only thing Leftists progress towards is the Islamic Ummah, Entropy, and Death. Death, at least, is equal, so there is that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing Leftists progress towards is the Islamic Ummah, Entropy, and Death. Death, at least, is equal, so there is that.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2015 17:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Supposedly, they would not lower standards. Supposedly. That was the claim right, the confidence artist claim that is. And people bought it, as usual.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supposedly, they would not lower standards. Supposedly. That was the claim right, the confidence artist claim that is. And people bought it, as usual.</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2015 14:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neither evolutionary nor mental nor physical fitness.  Liberal societies are in a progressive state of decay.  Perhaps that&#039;s why they have resurrected the primitive pagan practice of human sacrificial rites.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither evolutionary nor mental nor physical fitness.  Liberal societies are in a progressive state of decay.  Perhaps that&#8217;s why they have resurrected the primitive pagan practice of human sacrificial rites.</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2015 03:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the positive side, the fact that only 44 of the 10,000 or so firemen are women indicates that MOST of us have better sense than to insert ourselves in a life and death occupation when we couldn&#039;t handle it.

Funny that the NYC &quot;men&quot; who are lefties resist admitting that men are generally stronger and faster than women. Tres taboo. They squirm and writhe with evasions; it&#039;s remarkable to see, even though I&#039;m a woman saying it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the positive side, the fact that only 44 of the 10,000 or so firemen are women indicates that MOST of us have better sense than to insert ourselves in a life and death occupation when we couldn&#8217;t handle it.</p>
<p>Funny that the NYC &#8220;men&#8221; who are lefties resist admitting that men are generally stronger and faster than women. Tres taboo. They squirm and writhe with evasions; it&#8217;s remarkable to see, even though I&#8217;m a woman saying it!</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beverly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2015 03:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[1974 FDNY fitness standards, per the NFPA 1001:

1.	Run 1.5 miles in 12 minutes or less.
2.	Standing broad jump of six feet, three inches.
3.	7 chin-ups, starting with arms fully extended.
4.	5 pushups (from the toes, not the knees).
5.	Walk a 4-inch-wide beam for 20 feet carrying 20 lbs. dead weight.
6.	Lift, from the floor, a 150-lb. dummy and carry (not drag) it 100 feet.

These standards were the old ones across most of the country; they’ve been “wimped” and “re-wimped” several times. Actually, they don’t look that tough to me -- for a fit male. 

I do remember hearing that the FDNY (and other departments, I’m sure) misled the public by saying women were doing “the same fitness test” as the men — what they didn’t tell us was that the NEW TEST was the Wimpy Test for Wimmen.

People are going to die; they don’t give a damn. The women on the force who can’t cut it should be shunned and shamed. And they’re not doing a damn thing for “women’s rights” with this crap.

http://www.nfpa.org/Assets/files/AboutTheCodes/1001/TCRF-1974-1001.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1974 FDNY fitness standards, per the NFPA 1001:</p>
<p>1.	Run 1.5 miles in 12 minutes or less.<br />
2.	Standing broad jump of six feet, three inches.<br />
3.	7 chin-ups, starting with arms fully extended.<br />
4.	5 pushups (from the toes, not the knees).<br />
5.	Walk a 4-inch-wide beam for 20 feet carrying 20 lbs. dead weight.<br />
6.	Lift, from the floor, a 150-lb. dummy and carry (not drag) it 100 feet.</p>
<p>These standards were the old ones across most of the country; they’ve been “wimped” and “re-wimped” several times. Actually, they don’t look that tough to me &#8212; for a fit male. </p>
<p>I do remember hearing that the FDNY (and other departments, I’m sure) misled the public by saying women were doing “the same fitness test” as the men — what they didn’t tell us was that the NEW TEST was the Wimpy Test for Wimmen.</p>
<p>People are going to die; they don’t give a damn. The women on the force who can’t cut it should be shunned and shamed. And they’re not doing a damn thing for “women’s rights” with this crap.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nfpa.org/Assets/files/AboutTheCodes/1001/TCRF-1974-1001.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nfpa.org/Assets/files/AboutTheCodes/1001/TCRF-1974-1001.pdf</a></p>
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