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		By: News of the Week (March 29th, 2015) &#124; The Political Hat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/26/things-fall-apart/#comment-882764</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[News of the Week (March 29th, 2015) &#124; The Political Hat]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Things fall apart That brilliant poem written by Yeats in 1939 came to mind after 9/11, expressing the sense of chaos and foreboding we all felt. It’s easy to forget how it appeared obvious that many attacks of similar magnitude would be forthcoming, particularly since 9/11 was followed quickly by the mysterious anthrax letters. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Things fall apart That brilliant poem written by Yeats in 1939 came to mind after 9/11, expressing the sense of chaos and foreboding we all felt. It’s easy to forget how it appeared obvious that many attacks of similar magnitude would be forthcoming, particularly since 9/11 was followed quickly by the mysterious anthrax letters. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Alan F		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/26/things-fall-apart/#comment-882748</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan F]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2015 19:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I re-read Neo&#039;s Nov. 7, 2010 in its entirety. She was prescient in what Obama has done since.  Her training in psychotherapy gives her insight into Obama&#039;s underlying, durable, core motives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I re-read Neo&#8217;s Nov. 7, 2010 in its entirety. She was prescient in what Obama has done since.  Her training in psychotherapy gives her insight into Obama&#8217;s underlying, durable, core motives.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/26/things-fall-apart/#comment-882742</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2015 18:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;I keep thinking there must be a tipping point, both for the press and the public as well as Congress.&lt;/b&gt;

It&#039;s normally called a civil war, specifically Civil War II.

As for people who were unable to imagine how that could come about... well, that was their problem, now wasn&#039;t it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I keep thinking there must be a tipping point, both for the press and the public as well as Congress.</b></p>
<p>It&#8217;s normally called a civil war, specifically Civil War II.</p>
<p>As for people who were unable to imagine how that could come about&#8230; well, that was their problem, now wasn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		By: Swen Swenson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/26/things-fall-apart/#comment-882544</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Swen Swenson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2015 00:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It all makes perfect sense once you realize that Obama shares the ideals of the bomb-throwers and flag-burners who gave him his start in politics, and learned his love of America from the Rev. Wright.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all makes perfect sense once you realize that Obama shares the ideals of the bomb-throwers and flag-burners who gave him his start in politics, and learned his love of America from the Rev. Wright.</p>
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		By: Rantor		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/26/things-fall-apart/#comment-882373</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rantor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2015 10:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Conservatives don&#039;t demonstrate because 1.  They work for a living and 2.  We did demonstrate against Obamacare and it didn&#039;t matter.  If a Beck or a Bachman can get tens of thousands to show up in DC, why doesn&#039;t the mainstream of the Republican Party seek popular support?  Could it be they are comfortable with their bank and industry hand outs and like Reid, don&#039;t want to smell all those sweaty tourists in the Capitol? 

Don&#039;t be surprised when Boehner fails to do anything to further the conservative cause.  The FY16 deficit is going to be larger than FY15&#039;s, that is what Boehner and McConnel want.  There are less than 80 serious, intelligent, and conservative patriots left in Congress today, and the machine is working to reorient them to be slaves to the lobbyists, not rocking the boat.  Pretty pathetic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Conservatives don&#8217;t demonstrate because 1.  They work for a living and 2.  We did demonstrate against Obamacare and it didn&#8217;t matter.  If a Beck or a Bachman can get tens of thousands to show up in DC, why doesn&#8217;t the mainstream of the Republican Party seek popular support?  Could it be they are comfortable with their bank and industry hand outs and like Reid, don&#8217;t want to smell all those sweaty tourists in the Capitol? </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be surprised when Boehner fails to do anything to further the conservative cause.  The FY16 deficit is going to be larger than FY15&#8217;s, that is what Boehner and McConnel want.  There are less than 80 serious, intelligent, and conservative patriots left in Congress today, and the machine is working to reorient them to be slaves to the lobbyists, not rocking the boat.  Pretty pathetic.</p>
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		By: beverly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/26/things-fall-apart/#comment-882332</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beverly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2015 03:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, all y&#039;all. Great suggestions, really comforting to hear from you! I wish I could teleport 3 or 4 of you into the beach house. We could mop the floor with them. ;-)

Here&#039;s the funny thing: I&#039;ve been blessed with a good mind, and the libbies I meet never assume I&#039;m one of &quot;them&quot; because &quot;you&#039;re so smart,&quot; etc., etc. Never occurs to them anyone they like is one of the Hated Ones. And libbies who meet me usually really like me (one just bought me a fantastic dinner). 

Since I&#039;m grossly outnumbered, and as I enjoy talking with them as long as we&#039;re NOT on politics, I&#039;ve provisionally decided not to &quot;come out,&quot; tho I&#039;m holding that idea in reserve.... But I have been dropping little hand grenades of knowledge here and there, and blowing a couple of minds.

E.g.: I used to write for the UN, at a pretty high level. That gives me cred with them. Told them some scandalous, and true, anecdotes about Turtle Bay that blew a couple of gaskets. Also used to write for WHO, and told them some things about battling with the Muslim patriarchy around the world: also true. Told them another anecdote about how the embattled feminists in Pakistan (they do exist) asked us &quot;Where are all the Western feminists? Why won&#039;t they help us?!?&quot; (That one really got to them.)

I told an old friend who&#039;s here that I&#039;m a libertarian these days:not exact, but what it calls up in their bigoted minds is a closer approximation of my POV than the term &quot;conservative&quot; would. 

Oh, BTW, I drove them past B.O.&#039;s retreat on the island, and one of the women said in hushed, reverent tones, &quot;That&#039;s where Obama stays when he comes.... it&#039;s a full-service, gated community. And I think there&#039;s a golf course.&quot;

&quot;oh, there would Have to be,&quot; I said breezily, and changed the subject before my passengers could react.

So, when they decide they think you&#039;re a great gal, and they want to adopt you as a friend, and so on.... it&#039;s pretty funny. The sad part is, if they weren&#039;t so poisoned with their politics, they&#039;d be some pretty interesting, great folks to hang out with. It&#039;s a shame. But their Leftism is so off the charts, such a derangement: it&#039;s like meeting a great artist and bon vivant who just happens to be a Nazi.

That, of course, is probably what they&#039;d think about moi. 

The island is delightful. Lots of Methodist camp meeting gingerbread houses, like Ocean Grove in Jersey. I&#039;m the only practicing Christian in the group (Episc.), so I know more about it than they do, and have a direct connection. Theirs is practically anthropological: like British toffs discussing the strange habits of the Hottentots.

Playing it by ear....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, all y&#8217;all. Great suggestions, really comforting to hear from you! I wish I could teleport 3 or 4 of you into the beach house. We could mop the floor with them. 😉</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the funny thing: I&#8217;ve been blessed with a good mind, and the libbies I meet never assume I&#8217;m one of &#8220;them&#8221; because &#8220;you&#8217;re so smart,&#8221; etc., etc. Never occurs to them anyone they like is one of the Hated Ones. And libbies who meet me usually really like me (one just bought me a fantastic dinner). </p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m grossly outnumbered, and as I enjoy talking with them as long as we&#8217;re NOT on politics, I&#8217;ve provisionally decided not to &#8220;come out,&#8221; tho I&#8217;m holding that idea in reserve&#8230;. But I have been dropping little hand grenades of knowledge here and there, and blowing a couple of minds.</p>
<p>E.g.: I used to write for the UN, at a pretty high level. That gives me cred with them. Told them some scandalous, and true, anecdotes about Turtle Bay that blew a couple of gaskets. Also used to write for WHO, and told them some things about battling with the Muslim patriarchy around the world: also true. Told them another anecdote about how the embattled feminists in Pakistan (they do exist) asked us &#8220;Where are all the Western feminists? Why won&#8217;t they help us?!?&#8221; (That one really got to them.)</p>
<p>I told an old friend who&#8217;s here that I&#8217;m a libertarian these days:not exact, but what it calls up in their bigoted minds is a closer approximation of my POV than the term &#8220;conservative&#8221; would. </p>
<p>Oh, BTW, I drove them past B.O.&#8217;s retreat on the island, and one of the women said in hushed, reverent tones, &#8220;That&#8217;s where Obama stays when he comes&#8230;. it&#8217;s a full-service, gated community. And I think there&#8217;s a golf course.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;oh, there would Have to be,&#8221; I said breezily, and changed the subject before my passengers could react.</p>
<p>So, when they decide they think you&#8217;re a great gal, and they want to adopt you as a friend, and so on&#8230;. it&#8217;s pretty funny. The sad part is, if they weren&#8217;t so poisoned with their politics, they&#8217;d be some pretty interesting, great folks to hang out with. It&#8217;s a shame. But their Leftism is so off the charts, such a derangement: it&#8217;s like meeting a great artist and bon vivant who just happens to be a Nazi.</p>
<p>That, of course, is probably what they&#8217;d think about moi. </p>
<p>The island is delightful. Lots of Methodist camp meeting gingerbread houses, like Ocean Grove in Jersey. I&#8217;m the only practicing Christian in the group (Episc.), so I know more about it than they do, and have a direct connection. Theirs is practically anthropological: like British toffs discussing the strange habits of the Hottentots.</p>
<p>Playing it by ear&#8230;.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/26/things-fall-apart/#comment-882239</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 19:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lanceman:

For me, it wasn&#039;t the educational system.  The schools I attended were &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; old-fashioned---patriotism, etc.---despite being in NYC.

My Democratic background was most definitely my family.  Read &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/category/a-mind-is-a-difficult-thing-to-change/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. 

Immediate family and relatives on one side liberal Democrats.  Distant relatives on other side, and one uncle, Communists.  I had no sympathy with that side, however, nor did my parents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lanceman:</p>
<p>For me, it wasn&#8217;t the educational system.  The schools I attended were <i>very</i> old-fashioned&#8212;patriotism, etc.&#8212;despite being in NYC.</p>
<p>My Democratic background was most definitely my family.  Read <a href="http://neoneocon.com/category/a-mind-is-a-difficult-thing-to-change/" rel="nofollow">this</a>. </p>
<p>Immediate family and relatives on one side liberal Democrats.  Distant relatives on other side, and one uncle, Communists.  I had no sympathy with that side, however, nor did my parents.</p>
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		By: Lanceman		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/26/things-fall-apart/#comment-882229</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lanceman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 18:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;George W. Bush was president, and at the time–I was a Democrat, had not voted for him, and had been upset when he won in 2000&quot;

I am fond of saying that I and 536 other jokers put W. in the White House, officially.  I was never a democrat - it was anathema to my soul. And as a former inhabitant of Arkansas, I knew that Slick Willie was a conman par excellance. He and that lying Owlgore rode the Reagan/Bush recovery far too long.


&quot;Since the inauguration of Barack Obama as president they have been going steadily downhill&quot;

Wrong. Since, January 2007, after 6 years of non-stop Bush bashing, America placed in charge of the Congress, a total lunatic and a serial grifter, Nancy Pelosi and Hairy Reid. Bush&#039;s last deficit was $161 billion. Shortly after the democrats took over, it skyrocketed to over  a trillion and has remained there ever since.
2009, and obama&#039;s inauguration just sealed the deal on our country. Proof positive that when parasites and producers are allowed the same voice, society as we knew it, is over.
When more voters know who won American Idol than can tell you who their US Congressman is, it&#039;s finished.

The reason you were once a democrat was the leftists got control of our &#039;educational&#039; institutions decades before you were born.
Hollywood pushes the homosexual/deviant/anit-God/democrat agenda daily. Rap is hailed as &#039;genius&#039;. And white guilt is powerful. The leftists knew this.
Fortunately for you, your inherent logic took over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;George W. Bush was president, and at the time–I was a Democrat, had not voted for him, and had been upset when he won in 2000&#8221;</p>
<p>I am fond of saying that I and 536 other jokers put W. in the White House, officially.  I was never a democrat &#8211; it was anathema to my soul. And as a former inhabitant of Arkansas, I knew that Slick Willie was a conman par excellance. He and that lying Owlgore rode the Reagan/Bush recovery far too long.</p>
<p>&#8220;Since the inauguration of Barack Obama as president they have been going steadily downhill&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong. Since, January 2007, after 6 years of non-stop Bush bashing, America placed in charge of the Congress, a total lunatic and a serial grifter, Nancy Pelosi and Hairy Reid. Bush&#8217;s last deficit was $161 billion. Shortly after the democrats took over, it skyrocketed to over  a trillion and has remained there ever since.<br />
2009, and obama&#8217;s inauguration just sealed the deal on our country. Proof positive that when parasites and producers are allowed the same voice, society as we knew it, is over.<br />
When more voters know who won American Idol than can tell you who their US Congressman is, it&#8217;s finished.</p>
<p>The reason you were once a democrat was the leftists got control of our &#8216;educational&#8217; institutions decades before you were born.<br />
Hollywood pushes the homosexual/deviant/anit-God/democrat agenda daily. Rap is hailed as &#8216;genius&#8217;. And white guilt is powerful. The leftists knew this.<br />
Fortunately for you, your inherent logic took over.</p>
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		By: Spence Bilbo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/26/things-fall-apart/#comment-882227</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 18:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent article.  Especially liked your sentence, &quot;naked emperor is malevolent.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article.  Especially liked your sentence, &#8220;naked emperor is malevolent.&#8221;</p>
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		By: The State Of The Union &#124; Transterrestrial Musings		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/26/things-fall-apart/#comment-882219</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The State Of The Union &#124; Transterrestrial Musings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 18:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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